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Title: Guava mango
Post by: HMHausman on May 20, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
I had the pleasure of trying a Guava Mango today.  Sheehan kindly brought it by who got it from Walter Zill via Rob.  Thanks to all in the chain of causation that got the mango on my plate and to my palate.  I don't remember ever trying it before.  The fruit was smallish and golden yellow with a smooth unblemished skin.  The smell of the skin was exactly that of fresh ripe guavas.  It was really quite amazing how closely they mimicked the guava smell.  I am sure there is some deep genetic secret that this mango is keeping that caused it to start mimicking a guava in odor.  I am not a fan of the smell of fresh guavas.  The flavor of the mango, I thought, was quite good.  It was sweet with some complexity. The flesh was fiber-less.  It did not have a guava flavor at all to me. Sheehan felt that it had some washing out of flavor.  For me, for an early mango, I was quite happy with the intensity of flavor of this fruit.  Here's what it looked like:

(http://s6.postimg.cc/5gxj0wn0d/20150520_130935.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5gxj0wn0d/)

(http://s6.postimg.cc/oajbxwl8d/20150520_131153.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/oajbxwl8d/)
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on May 20, 2015, 10:11:05 PM
We all know Sheehan has no taste buds.   Hahahahahaha

Was it refrigerated or room temperature?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: fisherking73 on May 20, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
Guava mango, are you kidding me!! Details, tree size, productivity, availablity????
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: HMHausman on May 20, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
Was it refrigerated or room temperature?

It was room temperature. 
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on May 20, 2015, 10:50:39 PM
Guava mango, are you kidding me!! Details, tree size, productivity, availablity????

You see the fruit above.  I have been eating them and i dont feel they have been washed out.  As Harry said, very distinct smell of guava and also has a guava like flavor component.   Tree is of medium plus vigor with an open habit which is what most likely allows every mango on the tree nearly to actually blemish frr.  Production is usually good and another plus its anooutstanding early season variety.   From the flavor,  if i had to guess, i would say it s of Indian heritage.

Availablity,  there should be a limited number available later into the late part of the summer.  Please send me a message if you are interested in a tree.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: HMHausman on May 20, 2015, 10:56:09 PM
I wonder how it would do in my mucky, wet soil?  Is anyone growing this tree anywhere else other than Walter Zill's sandy location?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on May 20, 2015, 11:02:43 PM
I wonder how it would do in my mucky, wet soil?  Is anyone growing this tree anywhere else other than Walter Zill's sandy location?

I believe Jeff has it top worked onto something.   Mine is too small to even think about fruiting.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JF on May 20, 2015, 11:33:27 PM
I'm not too crazy about guavas these days I want to try it in a form of a mango.....I want this variety where can I get it?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: simon_grow on May 21, 2015, 02:38:06 AM
My wife thought Alphonso tasted a bit like Guava. I wonder if this Guava Mango has that sort of Piney slight resinous taste like the Alphonso?

Simon
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: mike rule on May 21, 2015, 02:45:10 AM
Rob..... Is this mango Poly ?????Thanks...Mike
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: murahilin on May 21, 2015, 06:14:27 AM
We all know Sheehan has no taste buds.   Hahahahahaha

Was it refrigerated or room temperature?

Thanks again for the mango Rob. It was refrigerated but by the time it made it to Harry's it was room temp.

I thought it was not as flavorful as the ones I had last year. It was still very good though. I have a few more to try so I'll see if this one was just a fluke.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: fruitlovers on May 21, 2015, 06:20:37 AM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on May 21, 2015, 07:13:22 AM
My wife thought Alphonso tasted a bit like Guava. I wonder if this Guava Mango has that sort of Piney slight resinous taste like the Alphonso?

Simon

No, does not have that resinous component associated with Alphonso.  Myself personally,  do not think there is anything great about Alphonso  (having had Florida grown and India grown specimens ).
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: mangomandan on May 21, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Well said. And let's not forget the one that tastes like Minneola Tangeloes, the one that tastes like Turpentine, and of course the one that tastes like some dude named Thomas Atkins.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JF on May 21, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Lol Seriously I've never had a coconut that taste like mango😄
I'm waiting for the filet mignon or lobster mango I'll be first in line
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 21, 2015, 11:12:23 AM
It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on May 21, 2015, 11:36:08 AM
It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: savemejebus on May 21, 2015, 12:04:10 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on May 21, 2015, 12:31:02 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: savemejebus on May 21, 2015, 12:44:44 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

We all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: From the sea on May 21, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

We all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.

that made my laugh
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: fruitlovers on May 21, 2015, 05:55:32 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

OK then, how about Fakin Bacon Mango? Or Mock Bacon Mango?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Triloba Tracker on May 21, 2015, 06:46:29 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Ah, but you are omitting the Mango Pawpaw  ;D
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 21, 2015, 07:05:13 PM
The one that has produced like a wild beast for me has been the Edgar. Mine bears in clusters. It bore just a few months post grafting, and then now in its second year, it has over 100 fruits. Zero anthracnose, blemish free fruits. Great mango too.

It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: savemejebus on May 21, 2015, 07:32:00 PM
The one that has produced like a wild beast for me has been the Edgar. Mine bears in clusters. It bore just a few months post grafting, and then now in its second year, it has over 100 fruits. Zero anthracnose, blemish free fruits. Great mango too.

It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.

I really liked Edgar last year. Put it right under some of the top contenders
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on May 21, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Yep and production is workhorse / glenn level on my tree.

The one that has produced like a wild beast for me has been the Edgar. Mine bears in clusters. It bore just a few months post grafting, and then now in its second year, it has over 100 fruits. Zero anthracnose, blemish free fruits. Great mango too.

It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.

I really liked Edgar last year. Put it right under some of the top contenders
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: wslau on March 05, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Anybody know the exact parentage of the guava mango? 
My friend just got a batch of scions (including guava mango) from dongeorgio and I was curious.
Its probably another Zill's (Gary?) creation, based on the statement in this post that the tasted fruit came from Walter Zill's place.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: bsbullie on March 05, 2016, 05:45:24 PM
Anybody know the exact parentage of the guava mango? 
My friend just got a batch of scions (including guava mango) from dongeorgio and I was curious.
Its probably another Zill's (Gary?) creation, based on the statement in this post that the tasted fruit came from Walter Zill's place.

Parentage is unknown.   It originated from a tree in Northeron part of Palm Beach County that was going to be destroyed due to contruction.  Walter Zill harvested scions and grafted it (top worked ) onto one of his trees.  It was named by one of his customers who loved it and always identified it by the mango that tastes like guava.  Hence it was given the name Guava.   It is not one of Gary's nor does it have anything to do with ZHPP.   If I had to guess,  I would say it has a strong Indian influence.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: wslau on March 05, 2016, 07:32:29 PM
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 05, 2016, 10:41:51 PM
Excellent tasting mango, but so far productivity has been very poor -- even with regular fungal treatment. This will be my 3rd year receiving fruit from mine (top-worked to a glenn), and I'm hoping to get more than a half dozen fruits.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JF on March 08, 2016, 10:31:15 AM
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.

Warren the taste is good reminds of our Meele's mango from Thailand that you will try in our tasting this summer. I'm looking forward of growing here

(http://s30.postimg.cc/756z7xft9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/756z7xft9/)
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: wslau on March 08, 2016, 07:50:25 PM
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.

Warren the taste is good reminds of our Meele's mango from Thailand that you will try in our tasting this summer. I'm looking forward of growing here

(http://s30.postimg.cc/756z7xft9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/756z7xft9/)

JF,
Is Meele a zygote seedling of Pim Saen Mun, or do I have this confused with another variety?  If it is, is there any similarity between Meele and PSM?
Thx.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JF on March 08, 2016, 08:59:59 PM
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.

Warren the taste is good reminds of our Meele's mango from Thailand that you will try in our tasting this summer. I'm looking forward of growing here

(http://s30.postimg.cc/756z7xft9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/756z7xft9/)

JF,
Is Meele a zygote seedling of Pim Saen Mun, or do I have this confused with another variety?  If it is, is there any similarity between Meele and PSM?
Thx.

Yes Warren you've got great memory. Meele did not turn out true to seed so we named it. This mango has a licorice-guava taste with brix in the low 20's imo much better mango than the guava mango from Walter Zill. AZ, Behl and I should have plenty of fruits for the tasting this year it is now blooming like mad. 
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JF on March 08, 2016, 09:12:51 PM
I found a pix of Meele next to Eunice's Blush


(http://s12.postimg.cc/5klpe0x21/IMG_8179.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5klpe0x21/)
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: greenman62 on March 10, 2016, 01:32:20 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

OK then, how about Fakin Bacon Mango? Or Mock Bacon Mango?

i was thinking more like TOFU mango :)
OK, scratch that, maybe mango flavored TOFU.
i actually eat a lot of Tofu.


actually, i wouldnt mind a guava with a mango flavor, but guava aroma.

does the guava mango smell like a mango, a guava or ???
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 19, 2016, 12:34:02 PM
Well, I'm happy to report that this year it's a different story for me. My guava topwork is loaded with baby fruits. The last couple of years, it would set one fruit per roughly 6 terminals. This year it's keeping up with my glenn. It's either due to the fact that I've been hitting it with my mister for fungus or because of the really late bloom. This year, anthracnose, which is normally a major problem on blooms, has been non-existent on all of my mango flowers.

Excellent tasting mango, but so far productivity has been very poor -- even with regular fungal treatment. This will be my 3rd year receiving fruit from mine (top-worked to a glenn), and I'm hoping to get more than a half dozen fruits.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Capt Ram on March 19, 2018, 03:56:29 PM
I just got a tree from a friend and wondering how early is it-- and hows your tree doing this year??
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 19, 2018, 04:58:59 PM
This is the 4th or 5th year that the tree has been in production (can't remember which), and so far it's been similar to Glenn in terms of production and reliability -- with the Glenn being just slightly more productive. Season is pretty close to Glenn as well, just maybe a week or two later. Been a great tree. I need to plant more.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Capt Ram on March 20, 2018, 03:26:54 PM
Thanks Jeff- that's Good to know-
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Future on July 11, 2019, 10:37:40 AM
Some links to compare India’s Priyor (“Guava”) mango to the West Palm Beach mystery tree (https://youtu.be/s74do4s8w_A (https://youtu.be/s74do4s8w_A))
Courtesy: Sheehan

http://www.thrissurkerala.com/mango-varieties/slides/Priyoor.html (http://www.thrissurkerala.com/mango-varieties/slides/Priyoor.html)

https://sancochin.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/mango-season-is-here/ (https://sancochin.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/mango-season-is-here/)

https://mywordsnthoughts.com/myworld/2017/05/15-types-of-local-varieties-of-mangoes-available-in-kerala-and-a-list-of-100-names/comment-page-1/ (https://mywordsnthoughts.com/myworld/2017/05/15-types-of-local-varieties-of-mangoes-available-in-kerala-and-a-list-of-100-names/comment-page-1/) 
Title: Re: Guava mango the plot thickens revisited
Post by: Oolie on October 17, 2019, 10:11:35 AM
Some links to compare India’s Priyor (“Guava”) mango to the West Palm Beach mystery tree (https://youtu.be/s74do4s8w_A (https://youtu.be/s74do4s8w_A))
Courtesy: Sheehan

http://www.thrissurkerala.com/mango-varieties/slides/Priyoor.html (http://www.thrissurkerala.com/mango-varieties/slides/Priyoor.html)

https://sancochin.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/mango-season-is-here/ (https://sancochin.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/mango-season-is-here/)

https://mywordsnthoughts.com/myworld/2017/05/15-types-of-local-varieties-of-mangoes-available-in-kerala-and-a-list-of-100-names/comment-page-1/ (https://mywordsnthoughts.com/myworld/2017/05/15-types-of-local-varieties-of-mangoes-available-in-kerala-and-a-list-of-100-names/comment-page-1/)

I'm going to bump this up, as there has to be someone on this forum who has fruited the Guava mango.

In India there are two well known mango varieties that may be synonymous which both mean Guava. Priyoor and Perakka. They are typically planted from seed, and are assumed to be true to seed. This jibes with the notion that many South Indian selections are actually Polyembryonic. This would also explain why the variety where Walter retrieved scions didn't have an obvious graft mark

If this assumption holds true, then if the variety called Guava in Florida is the same variety, then its seed should be polyembryonic. Can anyone verify?

Here are the pics from the various links Abayomi posted.

I'm embedding them for the intent of aiding in the verification that the variety grown in Florida is synonymous with the variety grown in South India.

(http://www.thrissurkerala.com/mango-varieties/Priyoor.JPG)
Priyoor Mango w/ foliage

(https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_120554985.jpg?w=371&h=208) (https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_120554985.jpg)
Unripe Priyoor Mango

(https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_115117518.jpg?w=248&h=440) (https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_115117518.jpg)

A ripened Priyoor Mango

(https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_120026791.jpg?w=169&h=300) (https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_120026791.jpg)

A Priyoor Mango cut open

(https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_120334751.jpg?w=300&h=169) (https://sancochin.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_20150405_120334751.jpg)

A Priyoor Mango seed.


In the third link, the Priyor mango is described as having 'big leaves'.


Do these pictures resemble the mango being sold in Florida?

Does the Florida mango have a polyembryonic seed?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Squam256 on October 17, 2019, 11:57:47 AM
We’ve fruited Guava and it does resemble the photos of Priyor .

However my recollection is that the seeds were monoembryonic or at least appeared to be.

The tree Walter Zill got the budwood from was ancient. Likely 100+ years old. It is worth mentioning that in the early 20th century A LOT of mangos were being introduced to south Florida from India, and a decent number of these got propagated/distributed. Some of those varieties even fell out of favor or out of recognition in India since (stuff like Ameeri and Borsha). So Walter has at times speculated that this could have been one of those trees.

Another interesting old tree which is another candidate for one of these early Indian introductions (or derivatives of such) is a unique Indian-flavored variety Walter calls ‘Apricot’, which we are now growing. I have seen this tree and it is also visibly very old.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Oolie on October 17, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
Thank you again for always providing informative posts Alex.

This forum needs a ratings system.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Tlaloc on October 17, 2019, 02:35:00 PM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

I have growing in my yard mango nectarines, if that counts? ;o)
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Future on October 17, 2019, 05:59:05 PM
We’ve fruited Guava and it does resemble the photos of Priyor .

However my recollection is that the seeds were monoembryonic or at least appeared to be.

The tree Walter Zill got the budwood from was ancient. Likely 100+ years old. It is worth mentioning that in the early 20th century A LOT of mangos were being introduced to south Florida from India, and a decent number of these got propagated/distributed. Some of those varieties even fell out of favor or out of recognition in India since (stuff like Ameeri and Borsha). So Walter has at times speculated that this could have been one of those trees.

Another interesting old tree which is another candidate for one of these early Indian introductions (or derivatives of such) is a unique Indian-flavored variety Walter calls ‘Apricot’, which we are now growing. I have seen this tree and it is also visibly very old.

Guava has really grown on me as a first rate mango.

I confirm every seed has been mono which only adds to the mystery. A nearly true to type mono is theoretically possible.  I only recall seeing mono honey kiss seeds but all the seedlings at Walter’s appear true to type.  Maybe I missed them being poly (don’t rate it highly so...). 

And double thanks to Alex for educating us.  I had Apricot this summer and enjoyed it.

Where is the original Apricot tree?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Squam256 on October 17, 2019, 06:53:23 PM
We’ve fruited Guava and it does resemble the photos of Priyor .

However my recollection is that the seeds were monoembryonic or at least appeared to be.

The tree Walter Zill got the budwood from was ancient. Likely 100+ years old. It is worth mentioning that in the early 20th century A LOT of mangos were being introduced to south Florida from India, and a decent number of these got propagated/distributed. Some of those varieties even fell out of favor or out of recognition in India since (stuff like Ameeri and Borsha). So Walter has at times speculated that this could have been one of those trees.

Another interesting old tree which is another candidate for one of these early Indian introductions (or derivatives of such) is a unique Indian-flavored variety Walter calls ‘Apricot’, which we are now growing. I have seen this tree and it is also visibly very old.

Guava has really grown on me as a first rate mango.

I confirm every seed has been mono which only adds to the mystery. A nearly true to type mono is theoretically possible.  I only recall seeing mono honey kiss seeds but all the seedlings at Walter’s appear true to type.  Maybe I missed them being poly (don’t rate it highly so...). 

And double thanks to Alex for educating us.  I had Apricot this summer and enjoyed it.

Where is the original Apricot tree?

It’s on the west side of NE 2nd ave just north of 12th street in Delray Beach.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: behlgarden on October 17, 2019, 08:31:40 PM
Just had guava mango from Florida graft and seed was poly. Here is pic of mango. Will post seed pic later.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q6zqRT9f/20191016-173931.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6zqRT9f)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hzChcjZb/20191016-173948.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzChcjZb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/474nDtPx/20191016-174137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/474nDtPx)
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Future on October 18, 2019, 09:43:37 AM
Just had guava mango from Florida graft and seed was poly. Here is pic of mango. Will post seed pic later.
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Oh....interesting!
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Malia on January 06, 2022, 03:26:09 PM
I am in the constant pain of selecting the mango varieties that would take the last slots in my lot.
You mention Guava is early. How early? And how vigorous? I want to graft on my VP in the front yard and need rather a solid big tree.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Malia on January 10, 2022, 02:47:37 PM
Up.
Do you know when does Guava Mango fruit? How early it is?
How big is the tree when mature?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Jose Spain on February 19, 2022, 02:55:32 AM
I'm going to bump this thread up because I think the information that Alex shares in this video is very interesting and I couldn't find it in the forum: Guava is actually Sein Ta Lone from Myanmar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I)
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: FlMikey on May 02, 2022, 06:02:35 PM
I've never had a Guava mango, but planted a tree based on the wonderful reputation.  I have my first fruit, and it looks like I should pick it.  Except the stem doesn't look brown.  Can anyone chime in and let me know if this one looks ready?  What do you look for to make sure it's picked at the correct stage?


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Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: johnb51 on May 03, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
I'm going to bump this thread up because I think the information that Alex shares in this video is very interesting and I couldn't find it in the forum: Guava is actually Sein Ta Lone from Myanmar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I)
OK, so why does he classify Guava as Indian/West Indian flavor and Sein Ta Lone as Indochinese flavor?  That sounds contradictory, but maybe he can explain.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: mangokothiyan on May 03, 2022, 06:44:24 PM
I've never had a Guava mango, but planted a tree based on the wonderful reputation.  I have my first fruit, and it looks like I should pick it.  Except the stem doesn't look brown.  Can anyone chime in and let me know if this one looks ready?  What do you look for to make sure it's picked at the correct stage?


(https://i.postimg.cc/D4WZKcBL/IMG-20220502-172500.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4WZKcBL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/JtttJ1M0/IMG-20220502-172511.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtttJ1M0)

It looks ready and i am fairly certain you will love the flavor. My tree has about 20 fruits, but still at least a month away from being ripe.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Squam256 on May 03, 2022, 10:42:09 PM
I'm going to bump this thread up because I think the information that Alex shares in this video is very interesting and I couldn't find it in the forum: Guava is actually Sein Ta Lone from Myanmar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I)
OK, so why does he classify Guava as Indian/West Indian flavor and Sein Ta Lone as Indochinese flavor?  That sounds contradictory, but maybe he can explain.

I need to edit that entry. It’s a difficult mango to classify in terms of flavor group.

But Guava is definitely the same mango as Sein Ta Lone.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: johnb51 on May 04, 2022, 12:42:44 AM
I'm going to bump this thread up because I think the information that Alex shares in this video is very interesting and I couldn't find it in the forum: Guava is actually Sein Ta Lone from Myanmar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH8NUi6P5I)
OK, so why does he classify Guava as Indian/West Indian flavor and Sein Ta Lone as Indochinese flavor?  That sounds contradictory, but maybe he can explain.

I need to edit that entry. It’s a difficult mango to classify in terms of flavor group.

But Guava is definitely the same mango as Sein Ta Lone.
;) Gotcha.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JakeFruit on May 04, 2022, 08:15:05 AM
I've been wondering what the growth behavior of Guava would be classified as. I have it grafted in on one branch, from that I would guess it would be lanky (long internodes), open and spreading with medium vigor. I've been debating grafting it to it's own seedling and growing the tree (since it seems like ~one of~ the highest quality early season mangoes), but I want an early variety that is easy to manage and is somewhat attractive. My guess is Guava fails in one of those aspects. Anybody that's been growing it for awhile have any feedback on the tree?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Squam256 on May 05, 2022, 12:07:30 PM
I've been wondering what the growth behavior of Guava would be classified as. I have it grafted in on one branch, from that I would guess it would be lanky (long internodes), open and spreading with medium vigor. I've been debating grafting it to it's own seedling and growing the tree (since it seems like ~one of~ the highest quality early season mangoes), but I want an early variety that is easy to manage and is somewhat attractive. My guess is Guava fails in one of those aspects. Anybody that's been growing it for awhile have any feedback on the tree?

Open canopy, spreading habit with long internodes and moderately vigorous rate of growth.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: JakeFruit on May 05, 2022, 01:18:37 PM
Open canopy, spreading habit with long internodes and moderately vigorous rate of growth.

Thanks Alex, that's exactly what I was guessing.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Rex Begonias on May 06, 2022, 08:35:16 AM
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Well said. And let's not forget the one that tastes like Minneola Tangeloes, the one that tastes like Turpentine, and of course the one that tastes like some dude named Thomas Atkins.

Lol!!  That was killer.

Holy moly, the entire Zill family has a graftable flavor profile.
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on May 06, 2022, 11:31:10 AM
At my more coastal location, Guava Mango appears to be highly productive. In 2021 I grafted guava scions onto three separate trees (Ataulfo and manila rootstock in the ground) and all three formed fruit this year. It also appears to be a good grower meaning moderately high vigor. 

I also did one guava mango graft in July 2020 onto my manila tree in the backyard and the graft union is now almost 1" in diameter and there are about 10-12 small fruit forming.

Likely this cultivar will do well in SoCal and I am optimistic. 

Johnny
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Hlasko on April 08, 2024, 03:32:43 PM
When does it ripen in Southwest Florida?
Title: Re: Guava mango
Post by: Orkine on April 08, 2024, 10:02:39 PM
When does it ripen in Southwest Florida?

This says May to July
https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/guava

Last season I had some hand on the tree later.  It depends on when it flowers.