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Title: Wanted: Lots of Jaboticaba Sabara seeds.
Post by: Longranger on July 31, 2020, 03:51:23 PM
I want to start a bunch of Sabara jaboticaba seedlings for grafting experiments as they get big enough a couple of years from now. My aim is to graft mature scion wood from varieties that do not do well in the ground in SoCal on their own roots to Sabara stock.  Anyone who is now enjoying sabara fruits and tossing the seeds please consider mailing them to me so I can learn to graft. Donators will be first in line for grafted plants at very reasonable cost if I have some success. Thanks in advance for your consideration.
Title: Re: Wanted: Lots of Jaboticaba Sabara seeds.
Post by: Longranger on August 01, 2020, 09:05:07 PM
Bump. Reread my post and realized that I am asking for something for nothing. OK I am not assuming people will send me seeds for free. Anyone with a very productive Sabara that is not Already selling their seeds for over $1 each already be interested in selling me seeds for my project. Obviously it does not need to be all at once or from just one individual.
Title: Re: Wanted: Lots of Jaboticaba Sabara seeds.
Post by: Acetogenin on August 03, 2020, 12:51:54 PM
Bump. Reread my post and realized that I am asking for something for nothing. OK I am not assuming people will send me seeds for free. Anyone with a very productive Sabara that is not Already selling their seeds for over $1 each already be interested in selling me seeds for my project. Obviously it does not need to be all at once or from just one individual.

How much are you paying for seeds.  $1?
Title: Re: Wanted: Lots of Jaboticaba Sabara seeds.
Post by: Longranger on August 03, 2020, 04:14:53 PM
I am planning to start about 100 Sabara seeds with the hope of having at least 50 graftable rootstocks in a year or 2. Sabara is common so I am hoping to get seeds for under a dollar each. One kind individual has offered to provide seed in a month or two when they have fruit. To be honest we did not discuss price. I would probably start more than 100 to ensure my 50 rootstocks if you have some to sell. Also it might be good to have “Sabara” from more than one source. There may be enough variation among Seeds from different mother plans that some make for great rootstock and others don,t.
Title: Re: Wanted: Lots of Jaboticaba Sabara seeds.
Post by: NateTheGreat on August 03, 2020, 07:09:04 PM
I am planning to start about 100 Sabara seeds with the hope of having at least 50 graftable rootstocks in a year or 2. Sabara is common so I am hoping to get seeds for under a dollar each. One kind individual has offered to provide seed in a month or two when they have fruit. To be honest we did not discuss price. I would probably start more than 100 to ensure my 50 rootstocks if you have some to sell. Also it might be good to have “Sabara” from more than one source. There may be enough variation among Seeds from different mother plans that some make for great rootstock and others don,t.

There probably won't be much variation. Literature I've read says sabara are polyembryonic with nuclear (clonal) seeds. I planted about 28 seeds two months ago, and have 28 seedlings now. Five seeds have two plants so far, so not 100% germination. I've heard the reason red jaboticaba isn't used as a rootstock is it suckers too much, but there may be other reasons. I've had very bad luck germinating red jaboticaba seeds. I suspect white, and to a lesser extent red, need high humidity. Grimal seems very tolerant of hot dry weather, and would probably be a good rootstock if it weren't so rare. I have 29 seedlings from 22 grimal seeds planted in April. Good luck in your experiments. I think humidity will be a bigger issue for you than soil conditions.
Title: Re: Wanted: Lots of Jaboticaba Sabara seeds.
Post by: K-Rimes on August 03, 2020, 08:04:10 PM
I want to start a bunch of Sabara jaboticaba seedlings for grafting experiments as they get big enough a couple of years from now. My aim is to graft mature scion wood from varieties that do not do well in the ground in SoCal on their own roots to Sabara stock.  Anyone who is now enjoying sabara fruits and tossing the seeds please consider mailing them to me so I can learn to graft. Donators will be first in line for grafted plants at very reasonable cost if I have some success. Thanks in advance for your consideration.

I'd suggest it will take at least 2-3 years to have something worth grafting. All jabos are painfully slow here in CA. Hope you have a greenhouse, it will probably help a lot in that respect.