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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotica Nursery's Lemon Guava Selections (Psidium cattleianum lucidum)
« on: September 06, 2023, 07:47:03 PM »
Hey Greg,

I haven’t been back to Exotica for a few years now, but years before that, I did purchase their large lemon guava type.  It has fruited for me and the fruits are about 1 1/2" wide.  I also have the standard size one from Home Depot and they're approximately 3/4".  They taste about the same, but not really worth eating the smaller ones when you have the larger ones available.

I've also grown out seeds of the large one and they have consistently grown the larger size fruits.  I think there's a good chance of getting the larger fruit.

Norm

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Future Sale- 2024: Questionnaire, mulberry varieties to graft
« on: July 17, 2023, 02:41:06 PM »
Hi Kaz,

I too would be very interested in:
9. Sange e Latte

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 27, 2023, 10:26:36 PM »
Quote from: Galatians522 on January 27, 2023, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: eNorm on January 27, 2023, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: Galatians522 on January 25, 2023, 10:08:32 PM
Simon, I have never seen a Yangmei plant in real life, but I have a female wax myrtle (myrica cerifera) in my back yard. Its flower buds look exactly like what you have in the picture.

Hi Galatians552,

Does this look like the same flower buds on your myrica cerifera?  Unfortunately, I decapitated mine to graft Yangmei on, so won't be able to find out.





No, those look like vegetive buds to me. The female flower buds look almost like a really small, smooth pinecone. I don't have a male tree, so I am not as familiar with those buds.

Thanks, I didn't even consider that myrica cerifera would also be separate male and female trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 27, 2023, 07:13:47 PM »
Quote from: Galatians522 on January 25, 2023, 10:08:32 PM
Simon, I have never seen a Yangmei plant in real life, but I have a female wax myrtle (myrica cerifera) in my back yard. Its flower buds look exactly like what you have in the picture.

Hi Galatians552,

Does this look like the same flower buds on your myrica cerifera?  Unfortunately, I decapitated mine to graft Yangmei on, so won't be able to find out.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria lucuma at Fullerton Arboretum (Photos)
« on: July 07, 2022, 05:16:11 PM »
Quote from: ScottR on July 07, 2022, 04:17:54 PM
Norm, could be the same fellow I wonder if he grew up in L.A. area? Do you know him and if so does he grow Lucuma?

Sorry, I don't know him personally or know whether he grows Lucuma.  I believe Edgar Valdivia knows him.  Dario is/was heavily involved with growing Cherimoya commercially.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria lucuma at Fullerton Arboretum (Photos)
« on: July 06, 2022, 11:52:35 PM »
Quote from: ScottR on July 06, 2022, 07:19:35 PM
Yes Nate, I heard from my friend Bob Holzinger old time CRFGer that there was a guy in Orange County Chapter or some where down in greater L.A. area. My the name of Grossenburger that had the moist one and he had tasted it! I have no contacts down that way any more but will be puttings out feelers to some folks I know to see if we can find this one!!

Hi Robert,

Are you referring to Dario Grossberger of Camarillo and owner of Condor Growers?  Same origin of the Condor Dragonfruit.

Norm

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Narrow Leaf Guava (Psidium striatulum) fruits!!
« on: May 17, 2022, 01:29:39 PM »
Hi Carolyn,

I just noticed a first bloom from a seedling of yours.  Hope I get at least one fruit to try this year.

Thanks again!
Norm


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any tips on grafting Indian Jujube (Z. mauritiana)?
« on: May 05, 2022, 02:09:30 PM »
I recently did my first graft of this type with a whip and tongue graft in March and this is what it looks like today.  The rootstock was already pushing, but the scion was dormant with evident buds.  I don't think I'm out of the woods yet, but it looks promising.   Good luck.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: May 05, 2022, 12:23:43 AM »
Yes, it's supposed to be a Coronata.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: May 04, 2022, 10:45:46 PM »
Quote from: cbss_daviefl on June 30, 2021, 11:19:47 AM
I ate my first Crown 1 fruit. The taste was similar to a concord grape. It was not overly sweet. The size was good, bigger than the reds I had on hand but not as big as some of the whopper reds and grimals I have harvested. The skin was thicker than a red, similar to a grimal. The skin did not have any objectionable flavors and seemed edible. In the taste test of both of the pictured fruits, I liked the flavor of the red better.

Crown 1 fruit (left) vs a Red (right) bottom view


Crown 1 fruit (left) vs a Red (right) top view


Crown 1 flesh


Crown 1 single seed, multi-segmented


I finally got two fruits from my Crown 1 tree.  I thought there's supposed to be a distinctive crown at the end of the fruit, but I don't really see it.  Does this look like the correct variety?  I still have the PIN tag on the tree.

The larger two fruits are Crown 1 and the smaller two for comparison are Sabara.







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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free- KT3-Sheri_Lynn, Loquat scion wood (Contest) # 3
« on: March 16, 2022, 08:50:27 PM »
Is it 18?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2022 Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order
« on: January 15, 2022, 06:10:51 PM »
Quote from: bill_bayarea on January 13, 2022, 05:38:09 PM
From San Diego area, there are following orders, can you guys please decide anyone in your area to go to LAX Joe's place to pick up all trees for others?

Jame N.(#58 San Diego)   1   1   1   1      1Tk    total 5
Norm W.  ( #51 Wulnut, CA)   1   1   1   1         total 4
Nayelie321( #100, Compton CA)          1   1      1 Tk, 1 CT   total 4
Brian P( San Diego, #102)   1         1         total 2
Jerry T ( San Diego, #99)      1   1            total 2
Jozeph, Y( El Cajon, CA, #56)   2   2   2   2      1 TK   total 9
Ryan J (#79, picked up from Jeziph Y)   1         1          total 2

Hi Bill,

I'm actually in the Los Angeles area and not San Diego.  I''ve sent Joe a message to pick up from LAX area, but have not yet been able to get a hold of him.

Joe, please check for my email.

Thanks,
#51 Norm W.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvesting Sugar Cane
« on: January 12, 2022, 06:05:51 PM »
This is a great pictorial but it does sound like quite a bit of work.  Could you elaborate on the below process a little?  I'm having trouble visualizing.  Is it multiple batches being boiled down or one batch?

"2 days of boiling, pour off, reduce and repeat-"

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Fruit/Seeds/Scions for sale Updated 10-25-2020
« on: May 09, 2021, 01:35:13 AM »
Received quicker than expected and all grafted up.  Thanks Frank! 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bark graft cherimoyas?
« on: April 02, 2021, 06:23:27 PM »
Brad, here's a bark graft that I did a few years back.  I have to agree with Kaz, that it's not a nice looking type of graft in comparison to a cleft graft.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 25, 2020, 10:38:19 PM »
Quote from: Bush2Beach on November 25, 2020, 12:07:27 PM
I’ve been distributing “Inca Red” scion since 2015 at least so other tff members may have fruited it.
I scoured my records and Unfortunately could not find out who I got this from originally.
I haven’t fruited it myself so time will tell how good a fruit it really is by hearing tasting accounts from a few different tree’s.

Inca Red originally came from Axel of Cloudforest Cafe forum, who is an occasional member here, and had previously posted many times about it.  I have one for many years now.  It hasn't grown very much, but it's mainly because it's been stunted in a pot.  It hasn't been productive nor much red in color, but it is very tasty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Df varieties?
« on: November 02, 2020, 10:41:21 PM »
Quote from: msk0072 on November 02, 2020, 07:38:47 AM
I have 2 df varieties labeled as George and Oung Ong. I can't find any information about them

That's likely George from the late George Emerich who was a prominent CRFG member.  It's a white flesh variety, very sweet, but not a Vietnamese variety.  I believe it is neither self fertile nor self compatible.

As for Quang Ong variety, it may be QOSF, also known as Quang Ong Self Fertile, which was later renamed as American Beauty.  Magenta flesh, self fertile and self pollinating.  However, he grows a lot of different varieties.

Hope this helps.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What a relief
« on: October 12, 2020, 11:03:30 PM »
Quote from: Orkine on October 12, 2020, 06:49:39 PM
eNorm, how much time between the graft and the bud emerging.
That looks good.

Hi Orkine,

I don't have exact dates, but I estimate somewhere between 2 to 2 1/2 weeks before it started pushing.  It's mostly in the shade.  The other two that I grafted on a larger tree... I'm really surprised those failed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What a relief
« on: October 12, 2020, 02:22:41 PM »
Hi Mike,

I've got a piece of it here and pushing.  I hope it's more than residual energy.  The other two grafts are wilting unfortunately.  This was the one I had the least faith in.  Thanks again with sharing this budwood.




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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Berry Jackfruit Seedling Seeds (Just Pay for Shipping)
« on: July 31, 2020, 12:29:15 PM »
Thanks murahilin!  Sent PM.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pitomba, Eugenia luschnathiana seeds
« on: May 01, 2020, 05:30:16 PM »
Got my package this morning.  That was quick with great packaging.  Definitely appreciate the extas as well!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: January 05, 2020, 01:45:04 PM »
Here's an image of the fruit next to the seed.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: January 05, 2020, 01:43:04 PM »
Kaffir Plum, I had never heard of it until now.  This seems to be the closest so far.  The description of the fruit sounds very similar, based on the small taste at the tip of my tongue.  What concerns me is the possible invasiveness of the roots and how big they can really get, as they seem to be used as wind blocks and shade.  I may need to consider cutting it down, if this is truly the fruit.

I took new pictures of the leaves, front and back and compared it to an image from Daleys Fruit Nursery in Australia, shown below.  Where the leaf meets the stem is reddish on the Daleys image and not on mine.  Could be due to variation?



According to the Specialty produce site:  "An odd red leaf may be scattered throughout the foliage, which is key to its identification", which does appear in my leaf image.
https://www.specialtyproduce.com/produce/Kaffir_Plum_11275.php


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: January 04, 2020, 02:30:42 PM »
Quote from: Grapebush on January 01, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
Couldn't it be some type of Davidsonia?
It does have that upright look, where the fruit hang lower and the leaves are higher up, but that may be coincidental?



If this helps, here is what the seed looks like.  There's very little flesh/pulp and mostly seed.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: January 04, 2020, 02:26:03 PM »
Quote from: SeaWalnut on January 01, 2020, 09:34:28 PM
Quote from: eNorm on December 30, 2019, 08:12:43 PM
I cut the it open and a big seed, as expected, but was surprised to see it juicy.  It's also relatively thick skinned.  I tasted it with the tip of my tongue and it was pleasantly acidic.  Not sour like a lemon and not sweet per se.

Here's a picture of it cut open, if that helps at all.


There is no way to be even closedly related to walnuts or anything in that genus.

I guess when I was considering it to be a nut, i had not yet seen the change in the color of the fruit.  I found some pictures back in October 2016, where it seemed to have flowered and had green fruit.









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