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Sorry to hear this, Ryan.
Ambrosia Beetles are one of my greatest fears. They will kill pawpaw trees too.
Triloba Tracker, I hope your pawpaws never get attacked by these evil beetles. Good luck with your trees - hope they stay safe from the frost tonight. Already starting to bring my plants back in the greenhouse for the second time this spring :P .

Thank you! yeah this weather is getting old.
I may put some ziploc baggies around the fruit, i'm not sure.

I actually got really discouraged earlier because LITERALLY OVERNIGHT, triggered by our first rain in 10 days or more, nearly all my baby fruits are covered in black fungal spots. It's maddening.

This is after removing all leaves from the orchard last fall and spraying preventative fungicide on a regular basis starting in March.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: April 21, 2021, 09:35:13 AM »
Hello everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself to this post chain since I started some pawpaws. I just recently joined this forum because I started gardening and getting interested in fruits and unique plants. Pawpaws were one of the first on my list to try to grow haha. Last year, I threw a bunch of pawpaw seeds in a wine barrel planter in the shady corner of my garden and some (about 10) of them are coming up and putting their first leaves out. They seem somewhat slow to grow, is that normal for pawpaws?

I know they'll take a long time to get to fruit (or even if they will), but I'm excited to test if any will work out where I'm at since I don't think my climate is the best for pawpaws. I live near San Francisco by the coast, and get a decent amount of fog and is quite mild all year long -- not too hot, not too cold. Hopefully one of the sprouted seedlings will somehow be suited for my climate. I look forward to chatting and learning from you all here. Anything I should be aware of as I start this pawpaw journey?

Hey! Welcome to the forum and to pawpaws!

Quickly - yes, pawpaws are slow growing, generally, compared to other fruit trees. You might get anywhere from 8 to 18 inches in your first year. In ideal conditions and with favorable genetics I have had seedlings reach 30 inches in the first year (not common).

If your wine barrel gets any direct sun, especially in the afternoon, it could be too much for the babies. Keep an eye on them and be prepared to cover them with 30 to 50% shade cloth until they reach roughly 18 inches.

In the world of plants I try to "never say never" but your climate will probably be a challenge. Generally pawpaws need a few months of hot summer temps to ripen fruit, and they need chill hours over the winter too.

Keep us posted along the way!

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Sorry to hear this, Ryan.
Ambrosia Beetles are one of my greatest fears. They will kill pawpaw trees too.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: April 19, 2021, 04:59:16 PM »
Good advice - I agree!

Good luck....I can't believe this is happening.
actually, i had a very strong feeling that winter was not done with us....it would've been too good to be true. Some friends had already set out tomatoes like a week or more ago, and I told them for sure I was not confident enough for that!

Another friend with a commercial peach orchard also seemed to be counting his chickens early as of a couple weeks ago but i was skeptical.
Good thing he has an elaborate frost protection system paid for by grant money. Well, not that elaborate - it basically just allows him to install huge frost blankets over his entire orchard.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: April 19, 2021, 02:39:35 PM »
If you can cover at least some of the fruitlets, then maybe you can save part of your crop. That would be better than nothing. I am considering doing that myself since my tree if far too tall to cover in its entirety.

Exactly - what are you thinking of using? for cost effectiveness and ease of application i was considering just trying to loosely wrap clusters in aluminum foil. Or even just make a little "roof" over them to keep frost off.

I was advised that actual fruit death due to temperature would not occur until aboud 28 or 29. I suspect it will not get below 35 here but there will likely be frost..........

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: April 19, 2021, 01:19:33 PM »
Fun indeed, W  :'(

Your experience last year doesn't bode well for me.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: grafting pawpaw with flower buds
« on: April 19, 2021, 08:47:22 AM »
is it possible to graft pawpaw scionwood with flower buds on it?
is there a growing bud left if I remove the flower bud?
I'm not familiar with pawpaw grafting, I know it it possible with other fruit trees(apricots, peaches,..)

thanks!

Absolutely - you can still graft with this. You are correct, there are vegetative/growing buds under the flower buds.

It might not be IDEAL but it is commonly done, since sometimes that's all you have to work with.

Good luck!

PS yes - you should remove the flower buds themselves prior to grafting

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: April 19, 2021, 08:46:13 AM »
Awesome!
Keep us posted.

I have several baby fruit clusters but am worried about some cold low temps coming this week....could frost, and I'm not sure from experience what that will do.
I may try to cover the clusters in foil or something.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: April 06, 2021, 09:20:19 AM »
That Gumpun sounds great!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Blueberry flower bud freeze damage??
« on: April 02, 2021, 09:39:50 AM »
Sorry to hear this.
I don't have any wisdom to offer, as i do not grow blueberries. Good luck!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya/Pawpaw hybrid
« on: March 30, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »
usirius, any updates?

 ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to put passionfruit outside
« on: March 23, 2021, 03:50:06 PM »
Mine is variety "Purple Possum", is that a tropical variety?

Yep

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YOUDAMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Some folks use helicopters

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: January 11, 2021, 03:57:30 PM »
I need some lychees in my life this year.
Surprisingly, here in small-town Tennessee, our Kroger grocery store had some excellent Melissa's branded lychees last year.
Hoping for a repeat

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit in video games
« on: December 29, 2020, 04:31:26 PM »
I believe there are durian fruits in Super Mario Sunshine.

I told my nephews to please let me know if durian seeds ever appear in Animal Crossing  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas 2020
« on: December 26, 2020, 08:48:11 AM »
Merry Christmas to those who are celebrating!
Blessings and good vibes to all members and their families.

Merry Christmas Triloba Tracker! I'll have to watch some of your youtube videos. Also, it took me the longest time to figure out that you are standing with a guy in a paw paw costume on your prifile pic. Now that I know what it is, it makes sense. Lol!

Hahaha yeah that's me and my wife at the Ohio Pawpaw Festival in 2017

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas 2020
« on: December 25, 2020, 05:43:02 PM »
Merry Christmas to those who are celebrating!
Blessings and good vibes to all members and their families.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annonacin
« on: December 09, 2020, 04:59:56 PM »
I believe it is.
It's certainly in Asimina triloba.

Not sure which species have the least. Not sure anyone knows, maybe Google does. ::)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best flavor: Jabuticaba vs, Muscadines
« on: December 09, 2020, 12:36:44 PM »
One last thing that I will mention is that muscadine peels can make my mouth itch when I eat large amounts of fruit. I think this is a very mild allergic reaction and no one else in my family gets it. I have never had that reaction with Jaboticaba.

Happens to me and my wife too. I think it's pretty common. It's lessened if the fruit is really ripe, it seems. Not sure if it's technically an allergy or just a sensitivity that varies genetically.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Early Golden vs Prok American Persimmon
« on: November 30, 2020, 08:43:10 AM »
I'm thinking of adding an american persimmon tree.

About me and persimmons: I do not like Asian persimmons. I am perfectly happy with wild american persimmons. I like soft/mushy texture and mostly i love the spicy/date/pumpkin pie flavor. I'm not looking for something to cut up or to take multiple bites out of like an apple.

So that being said, I've heard great things about the flavor of Early Golden, though it is not one of the larger varieties.
Otherwise, most folks rave about Prok. I am a little concerned that it might be on the bland side.

Anyone have any thoughts/recommendations?

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic fertilizers
« on: November 24, 2020, 03:33:57 PM »
Sorta to my earlier point, there is something fun about using free or cheap stuff (organic waste) and sorta doing a science Project in order to make fertilizer. The appeal of alchemy I guess.
I went down that road early on, and it was fun while it lasted.

Beyond that....?

The extreme stuff about spraying all kinds of concoctions and constantly adding inputs to the system is to me, well, extreme and wasteful.

Test your soil/tissue, find out what’s lacking if anything and only input what you need. You CAN have too much of anything.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic fertilizers
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:59:13 AM »
Wonderfully put Carolyn.
Very helpful too to hear about your test results.
I’m not terribly experienced but what I’ve come to believe is basically less is more - tinker with the environment as little as possible (speaking of in-ground).

Some people are tinkerers. I think I could be. The idea of all these organic potions is very appealing to tinkerers (including me). Knock yourselves out but be cautious in insisting this is the only way to grow plants.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Best performing blueberry varieties
« on: November 24, 2020, 10:08:23 AM »
The only way i know to lower soil pH reliably is applying granulated elemental sulfur.
I think a lot of the stuff you read, such as pine straw, peat moss, etc doesn't actually work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering's Charge
« on: November 19, 2020, 05:00:54 PM »
yep i was gonna suggest root pruning setup too

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