In reference to a post on the topic of satsuma cuttings, do satsuma seedlings have thorns? According to Tom Mcclendon's book, Hardy Citrus for the Southeast, "Satsuma (citrus reticulata) is really a class of mandarins". We all know that mandarin seedlings are very thorny, like most citrus. I've only seen grafted satsumas, Kimbrough, owari, St Anne, etc, which of course is mature fruiting thornless wood grafted onto a rootstock. Has anyone grown a seed from one of these "seedless" sats and got a seedling satsuma tree with thorns? Maybe thornless seedlings is a difference between "satsuma" and its reticulata sister "mandarin".