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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kiwi's
« on: February 23, 2016, 05:52:48 PM »
Kiwi are not tropical plants....they survive 0° F ore less....they want water during summer and need several chilling hours during winter. USDA 8-9 zones are perfect....

I don't said they are tropical plants! Just said, that there are people producing them successfully in my Island (and we are far from being in a tropical climate)! Maybe there are selected cultivars, that are more adapted to warmer zones, or maybe they don't need that much cold to stimulate flower production...

Next time I pass by one of those spots were they are growing just fine, I will take some pics to share here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some of my trees
« on: February 23, 2016, 08:39:23 AM »
Congratulations for your trees!  :) Your climate must be very appropriate for the tropical fruit trees. Can you write the tags of your pictures?

Thank you for your comment!

Yes, most of tropical fruit trees feel happy here, but for some of the most tropical/Ultra tropical, it is quite tricky to keep them alive, because, from time to time we have some temperature drops, that come with no warning, as for example, last week (18th, 19th, 20th) we had snow falling above 800m, and hail, to the see level, all that combined with strong wind, that has caused many damages, in some crops, and even some plants lost. Didn't had yet time to look for the papaya plants in these pics, but think they're quite damaged by hail...
The temperature drops, took me 2 rambutan seedlings, and I still need to check for my Korlan seedling, but think it might be lost as well! The hail took me a baobab seedling, and many papaya seedlings.

About writing the tags on my pics; I can do it, but there's not to much to say, as the papayas, are not of any known cultivar (at least that I know), except for the 2nd image, that I'm not sure if it could be a Kak-Dam one, as once I bought seeds from that variety, but mixed it with others, and at a moment lost it's track, now that it's fruiting, the fruit have some similarities, but not sure.
The mangos are all from diferent cultivars, but don't know it's names! 5th and 6th images, from the same tree, 7th from the oldest one of my mango trees, and 8th is an old seedling mango that I converted in a "cocktail tree", with 3 different varieties, on it.
Last image, is of seedling Pitanga/Surinam cherry, that have very dark red skin, medium/small fruit, very juicy and sweet pulp.

Congratulations! Your trees are great!  ;)

Thank you, Luís!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kiwi's
« on: February 23, 2016, 08:03:51 AM »
They do need a winter chill in order to produce fruit, so you can’t grow kiwi anywhere warmer than zone 8.
 Different varieties have different temperature requirements, so you should try to buy plants that suit your climate.
http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/kiwi/

Don't believe this is absolutely true, as here we have a quite warm climate, and there is many people, producing kiwis sucessfully!

For those asking by store bought fruit, viability of seeds; most of them are viable, and if you remove seeds, clean them very well, and sow right away, they don't need stratification; only if they're allowed to dry, they will need cold stratification.

Hardy kiwis the same kiwis sold as "mini kiwis" in the market?

Yes! They are commercialised as Hardy kiwi, Mini kiwi, Cocktail kiwi, Bayern kiwi (in germany), and a few other names.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: natal plum first tasting
« on: February 21, 2016, 09:16:12 AM »
By the pictures it seems ripe enough. You can allow it to ripe a bit more, but not to much, as I already pick some that were overripe, and at that point they start fermenting.

I don't think a rainy winter will be a problem, as here, we have rainy winters, and they do really fine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Some of my trees
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:28:58 PM »
As my topics usualy are questions/ID help, this time I will show some of the trees that I have producing fruit or flowers at this moment!

Starting with my papayas, then my mangos, and finally one of my Surinam cherry.






















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Poll: Meliponiculture
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:15:23 PM »
These bees, are normaly smaller than the Appis genus right???

Can anyone tell me if these are stingless bees? They're about 1cm long.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's this larvae from?
« on: February 06, 2016, 07:25:30 PM »
Looks like an inchworm to me, which turns into a geometer moth.

Thanks for your help.
After a quick Google search, it really looks like an inchworm, however I've never seen any kind of moth, in here, or even butterflies; so I'm tinking how did they get here...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What's this larvae from?
« on: February 06, 2016, 02:16:34 PM »
Hi everybody,

Recently I've benn attacked by a lot of this larvae, and they're eating almost everything, in their way, specialy my fruit tree seedlings, my herbs, and even some ornamentals...
Does anyone knows what kind of bug develops, from these larvae? Recently I've noticed a few grasshopers on my backyard, could this be their larvae???

Thanks for any help!








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 Thanks.
 I love this video and the "Um pé de quê?" series in particular.

 It's no surprise any translation will come out weird, because the actual portuguese captions
 are full of errors. Sadly, the speech recognition software is poorly trained for
 (Brazilian) Portuguese.

 This reminds me I will need to pay soon a visit to the tree we have here in Lisbon.
 The sign reads it never fruited, but it's wrong. In my last visit, I did find an old fruit
 with a single seed still inside. Sadly it did not germinate

Hi Sergio,

Do you remembre, what time of the year, did you found the fruit in Lisbon Botanical Garden?

It seems that there is another one in Monserrate palace in Sintra. In my next trip to the mainland I will try to visist both.

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sorry this is an old post...no seeds now...and no seeds on the horizon...but i have small seedlings i'm selling from when I imported and planted seeds from Brazil about 1.5yr ago?

they are small, and expensive..and very limited supply!

Sorry! Just look at the October 27, didn't noticed the 2014...
About seedlings, if our customs weren't that greedy, I would maybe take the risk, but knowing the possibilities of them passing trough it are close to 0, I prefer not to take the risk!
Do you have any other Myrciaria/plinia species, seeds available?

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Are there any seeds availabe yet?

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I guess this el Nino thing isn't just impacting the US.



It's probably behaving just like tomato seed germinating inside a ripe tomato as the seed got tricked into germination due to temperature change or whatever.

It is possible that it was tricked by the temperature change, as we are having a crazy winter, with many temperature variations! One day we have 25C and the next we have 15C and a lot of rain...

You can bet it isn't! Even the Azores anti-ciclone, seems not to be working anymore...

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The other day, someone gave me some cuttings of an evergreen and everbearing variety, wich produces masses of berries of good size and taste, but I have no idea on the species, and/or variety. I think it's not Morus nigra, as from what I know, they're not evergreen.
Does anyone knows this?
They're very sweet in summer and in winter when there's less sun/heat available, they're a bit less good, but still ok, and great for making jam.
As you can see, the cuttings I'm rooting, are already setting fruit, even the small one (4th pic), that is about 5cm.












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It's probably behaving just like tomato seed germinating inside a ripe tomato as the seed got tricked into germination due to temperature change or whatever.

It is possible that it was tricked by the temperature change, as we are having a crazy winter, with many temperature variations! One day we have 25C and the next we have 15C and a lot of rain...

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Let's see if this time I hit something: C3, G5

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Has anyone ever saw this? I had a little strawberry plant, growing directly, out of a strawberry fruit.
It is very bizarre, for me, as I've never seen nothing like this, and I'm quite familiarized with strawberries, as my family always had them...

Here are the photos of that:





Ps. I know the fruit is quite ugly, because a slug ate half of it...

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I will attack the battlefield, using a B2 bomber, and if I hit your ship, maybe the G8 group will have a meeting to decide about this war... lol

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Actually it's hard to tell which tree will flower next ... There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason...some of the shorter trees have bloomed before the larger ones.

I know they're quite tricky, about blooming age, size... My mother in law, have one that she brought from Brasil, and that should be arround 10 years old, more than 2 meters high, quite thick trunk, seems happy, but never flowered... She's starting to desperate, as she loves the fruit, and it is her childhood fruit (she's brasilian), and the tree doesn't want to cooperate... lol

tell her to grow hibrida / precoce (what we call Red jaboticaba in USA)....it fruits much quicker from seed, in about 2.5-5yr ...the red jaboticaba grove i have planted is only about 3.5yr old...most of them should start fruiting by this year

She don't even know what species and variety it is.
And I'm not sure if she can easily get the red one down there (yeah, I know it is hilarious, they come from there, but it seems it's not easy to find most species/varieties, down there). Let's see if one of these days I would be able to get some seeds and try to grow the red one.

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Actually it's hard to tell which tree will flower next ... There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason...some of the shorter trees have bloomed before the larger ones.

I know they're quite tricky, about blooming age, size... My mother in law, have one that she brought from Brasil, and that should be arround 10 years old, more than 2 meters high, quite thick trunk, seems happy, but never flowered... She's starting to desperate, as she loves the fruit, and it is her childhood fruit (she's brasilian), and the tree doesn't want to cooperate... lol

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lol, that's just a cool kawinkydink

but I was thinking something along the lines of battle ship!

who's going to guess the next direct hit?  which tree is going to flower next? H6?

LOL

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found another tree blooming in the grove today!  I think there must be more, but I haven't had time to look closely.

based on the system I set up, the code for the tree would be #6E (the grove is arranged in a square 8 x 8... the northern most row is "A", the southernmost is 'H', and the columns are numbered 1-8, from west to east) 

I will keep logging updates of which trees have began to bloom, and when the last tree finally starts.

here is a little diagram of the grove, to make it easier to visualize the placement of each tree.  "X" marks the spot of tree that has confirmed blooms.

   12345678
A oooxoooo
B oooooooo
C oooooooo
D oooooooo
E oooooxoo       
F oooooooo
G oooooooo
H oooooooo

You arranged your grove like a Chess Board... lol    Do you intend to play a chess game with your Jaboticabas?

That's not going to be a fair game, as you know the battlefield better than anyone else... lol

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found another tree blooming in the grove today!  I think there must be more, but I haven't had time to look closely.

based on the system I set up, the code for the tree would be #6E (the grove is arranged in a square 8 x 8... the northern most row is "A", the southernmost is 'H', and the columns are numbered 1-8, from west to east) 

I will keep logging updates of which trees have began to bloom, and when the last tree finally starts.

here is a little diagram of the grove, to make it easier to visualize the placement of each tree.  "X" marks the spot of tree that has confirmed blooms.

   12345678
A oooxoooo
B oooooooo
C oooooooo
D oooooooo
E oooooxoo       
F oooooooo
G oooooooo
H oooooooo

You arranged your grove like a Chess Board... lol    Do you intend to play a chess game with your Jaboticabas?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What on earth is this?? Is it edible?
« on: January 18, 2016, 09:32:18 AM »
By the images I would say, a Passiflora species, however I never seen any with that color of flesh, and that kind of skin...

If you would like to give it a try, here's what you need to keep in mind: http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/universal-edibility-test1.htm

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thin Mango stem.
« on: January 18, 2016, 09:18:47 AM »
Sometimes it happens when you graft a very vigorous variety, to a non vigorous rootstock; as weel it could happen, when your tree is quite in the shade and it grows upright to reach the light, without gaining trunk density, and so at a moment it is unable to hold itself; in this case you must allow more light o hit it, and tie it to a strong support.

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The fruit from Cereus genus, is said to be sweeter, as more cracked open it's skin is... Was the fruit you ate already cracked/open?

No, it was not cracked open.  I saw another thread about someone's cactus (I don't know if it is from the same genus), that the people also said you have to wait until it is cracked open.  Will try it next time.  The plants still have lots of flowers on, so we can keep experimenting.

So if you have the chance to try one in these conditions, get back to us to report the experience, on how it really increases sweetness, or not that much.
If possible try to taste a cracked one, and a non cracked, so you can made a better comparison.

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The fruit from Cereus genus, is said to be sweeter, as more cracked open it's skin is... Was the fruit you ate already cracked/open?

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