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Outside of people from the West Indies, Ryan seems to be the most well received of the three by customers who try it. Just seems like everyone who has tried Ryan has liked it with no negative comments that I can recall. It has enough spice and complexity to please people seeking those traits while not being “too much” for the people who object to Carrie or Angie.
Julie is excellent in my opinion, but a lot of Americans find the flavor overpowering. It goes overripe very quickly and is quite soft as well. Depending on growing conditions it can also have some fiber, though not so much that it would be objectionable to most.
Graham is a very odd fruit. Some of the better Grahams I’ve tasted have been amongst the best individual mangos I’ve personally eaten, but these have been quite rare. It is ultra-sensitive to rainfall and develops off flavors if it ripens on the tree even in dry weather. And If it ripens on the tree in wet weather you can forget it.
I have to say, I like Har's Oddities list more than the Supremely Delicious list. Granted, I haven't tried all on both lists, but Pim Seng Mun and Coconut Cream are two of my top five (I've yet to try a great example of M-4, which could knock Coconut Cream off my list if it lives up to the hype). Has anyone ventured a "romantic" name for M-4? I also really like Madame Francis and Ice Cream and Baptiste.
I love Julie too but like Johnb51 stayed, Julie may not be the best producer and it won’t grow as fast as the other trees you listed which may or may not be an issue for you.
Perhaps try J12, Juliette, Carrie if you can get s hold of them. Graham has a bit of that Julie taste and is more productive. Try ordering a box from Tropical Acres, if he still has them. Maybe you can request specific varieties?
Simon
Everything I've ever read about Julie has said that it does not produce reliably in SoFlo.
I'd be tempted to saboutage some. Inject capsaicin oil into say 5-10% of fruits, the most appealing / accessible ones. Keep careful track of which ones you did it with so you don't eat them yourself.
Thieves should learn the lesson pretty quickly.
Honestly, saboutaged bait is a pretty good tactic. I once had thieves steal a toolbox and two full cans of gasoline (back before I went electric). So I left out several additional gas cans, which were all promptly stolen as well. And to be fair, they did contain gasoline.... on the top. Anyone who smelled it or poured off a little would see gasoline, no question. But it was only half the liquid in the cans, flowing atop a denser layer of... concentrated hydrochloric acid. Which eats steel
The only downside is you never get to see the thieves faces when they realize how badly they screwed up.
Production wise CC comes third. Taste wise, in my personal experience, BC comes third, this is based on my tasting of BC from Zhpp this year and M-4 last year, CC did not produce for me at all this year. Tree growth pattern wise i don’t know how BC is,i don’t have the tree growing but M-4 seems compact and symmetrical so far vs CC that tends to shoot it’s long branches vertically downwards. Both M-4 and CC seem to be equally resistant to anthracnose probably M-4 has a slight edge as I did spray copper on CC once and M-4 never. So i would go with M-4 as well.
Thank you for the reply! M4 seems to be the way to go then. Do you know anything on sugar loaf mango tree?
I had tasted sugar loaf from Zhpp in 2019. It stays green and good after a long time after picking, this one in the picture was bought a week ago and stayed in my garage for a week, it is slightly paler green, giving now to touch and ready to eat. It gets to bigger size than this but not as big as fruit punch, i would say a medium size mango. Last year they had rich sweet flavor that reminded me of the mangoes i ate in India, certainly has a high brix, did not find much acidity. I have yet to try them this year, may be tomorrow i will try this one.
Tree as you can see is growing compactly, i am a lazy pruner and i want to get this tree to grow big so haven’t done much since planting it as a single stick just grafted 3g from Zhpp last summer. It did not flower for me this year. I have not had to spray any copper, looks healthy with neglect
Production wise CC comes third. Taste wise, in my personal experience, BC comes third, this is based on my tasting of BC from Zhpp this year and M-4 last year, CC did not produce for me at all this year. Tree growth pattern wise i don’t know how BC is,i don’t have the tree growing but M-4 seems compact and symmetrical so far vs CC that tends to shoot it’s long branches vertically downwards. Both M-4 and CC seem to be equally resistant to anthracnose probably M-4 has a slight edge as I did spray copper on CC once and M-4 never. So i would go with M-4 as well.
Great for you Abe. Keep it up man. As another poster said and i was noticing you seem to have a lot of open spaces to plant some more trees other than guava. Do you like mango or avocados?
You have a great climate man.
Plant a Dwarf Hawaiian ( early mango) , a Guava mango , Maha Chanok ( mid season) and a maybe later mangoes like a Beverly , Keitt, Honey Kiss or Neelam
As for avocados i know you guys in Florida have a lot to choose from.
When you have a chance next mango season go to Zill High performance plants ( Gary Zill), Go to Walter Zill's place , Tropical Acres Farms ( Alex's place) , Truly Tropical ( Chris' place) and buy and sample fruits / ask questions on varieties / production/ season and growth habits of certain trees ..accumulate info and make your decision..but taste lots of fruits before you plant whatever you like.
You are so lucky..you have the right climate to grow many , many tropical fruits. Btw congratulations on your new home and your lovely Guava tree.
Is guava mango productive a tree in Florida?
Mike
https://www.browardpalmbeach.com/restaurants/six-ways-to-cook-iguana-6392248That was a good joke to tell americans to eat the iguanas because ,,they taste like chicken,,.
I dont think its possible when even most of the wildest american rednecks dont eat the boar after they shoot him because it not a castrated pig and about the bones ,they are to sissy to eat carps .
Even here where people eat a lot of carps and all the hunted ( hunted not just shot) wild boars,i think not even the homeless would dare to eat an iguana.
I might be wary of coconut cream and productivity. Some people have issues with disease and no fruit (me). I may end up topworking the tree. i am in a very humid environment though. Planted right by a lake.
Still hanging 7/28
Valencia Pride (many)
Piña Colada (many)
Maha Chanok
Cotton Candy
Lemon Zest (2 left)
Dot (1 left)
Coconut Cream (many)
Harvest Moon (1 left)
Mangifera odorata
My cotton candy is an upright grower so far with less vigor than the Sweet Tart and just ahead of the Pickering Not as precocious as either of these two either
