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I'd like to get your input on what you would say is the best rootstock for growing in the desert, notably in higher pH clay soils when in-ground, along with high pH tap water, and where to acquire them either as seeds or small plants. I'd like to perform some experiments.

A lot of trees for sale here in Vegas either don't list their rootstock, or are varieties sourced from California which seem to have a hard time here even with organic matter mixed in, fed well, supplemented with elemental sulfur, and the perpetual issue of proper drainage well taken care of.

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I don't think you'd be able to graft this onto your Siam Jumbo or true mulberries as it's not actually a mulberry, despite the name.


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I too am interested in this.

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How well would this handle arid, hot summers, and winters that can get to around freezing in fits and spurts?

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I'm intrigued, but is there any information on cold tolerance?

I'd love to try it since it's apparently tolerant of drought, heat, and different soil types, but if has low desert cold tolerance it may be difficult for me.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB mulberry- Sange e Latte
« on: July 20, 2023, 01:45:34 PM »
I found a seller on eBay Italy with 4 foot grafted Sangue Latte, I kid you not for $12 plus shipping.  Just a common grafted mulberry here that size would be $40 plus. Unfortunately they don’t ship to USA not even cuttings but I surely tried.

I'm on this. I will keep you in the loop, gonna have an Italian friend chop it up and I'll have him ship them over.

Can you loop me in as well?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB mulberry- Sange e Latte
« on: July 20, 2023, 12:29:57 PM »
I'm wondering if the "White Ivory" variety being sold at this site is a re-branding of Sangue e Latte.

https://www.whitmanfarms.com/allplants/edible-plants/mulberries/morus-white-ivory/

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB mulberry- Sange e Latte
« on: July 19, 2023, 03:45:58 PM »
Same, but these are really hard to get right now. Check out this thread for chance at one next year:

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=51782.0

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If local pickup is a bust, put me down for shipping.

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Fair enough. :) Appreciate all you're doing!

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9 Sange e Latte is the big one I'd want.

After that, 4 DMOR9 and 7 Thom's Super Pakistan.

FYI, I have some friends rooting Siam Jumbo/Austurkey straight from the cuttings they were lucky enough to grab some from the original seller. These may be easier for you to root rather than graft if you haven't already tried.

Also, since the rootstock will be male, will there be concerns about male mulberry rooting behavior? They tend to be a lot more aggressive with their root systems and also grow them more at the surface level than female trees.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Reed Avocado fruits
« on: July 03, 2023, 05:13:55 PM »
Count me in!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: wtb: i258 fig tree
« on: June 28, 2023, 12:14:42 PM »
One of the best figs anyone can grow. It's a rockstar out here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: June 15, 2023, 05:10:52 PM »
Any folks here with experience growing these in a desert climate?

I know that it can be done here in Vegas and AZ as there are some growers that have had proven success, but I personally haven't put much in the way of effort to try yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Fruit Comparison
« on: June 14, 2023, 03:57:44 PM »
I recently purchased and grafted Contorted, Cooke's Persian, Black Bird, and Kokuso cuttings from Fruitwood Nursery.

Waiting to hear back from them if the Contorted is a fruiting female or male, which I didn't think to ask before I ordered. Apparently most of the contorted scions out there are male.

Any experience or feedback on the other three? I assume Cooke's Persian to not be all that different from regular Persian. The other two are supposedly pretty good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Maqui berry in the desert
« on: June 14, 2023, 02:16:24 PM »

Thanks Dan, and LOL I'd be here for the maqui too if I could find one. Fygee must have made some kind of wish on a monkey paw or something to get that thing. It would explain the soap taste at least.

I had one, but I used it to wish for my Phoenix Suns to do well in the playoffs the past couple of years instead. Lol.

I'm going to trim my bush soon, so I can get cuttings your way. However, I don't have experience rooting them yet so I'm not sure if they need to be hardwood or softwood to succeed. I took some softwood ones and am attempting to root them the same way I have success with fig cuttings, so we'll see.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Maqui berry in the desert
« on: June 14, 2023, 11:47:18 AM »

While I can't offer direct advice on maqui, no doubt that a first crop fighting that heat isn't going to be ideal, so I wouldn't be discouraged. Whats the drought tolerance on maqui? I see conflicting information online.
Ive read a lot about the similar Grewia asiatica (Sherbet berry), is that something youve considered Fygee? I've read it grows well in dry conditions, where as maqui prefers moist soils, but they have a similar flavor.

Oddly enough, it hasn't had to fight the heat yet this year. Grew like nuts over the fall, winter, and spring. Temps have rarely gone over the 90s for the high, and mostly hovered in the 70s and 80s while they formed and ripened. Extremely unusual for us here, but I'll take it.

Drought isn't an issue with it as it gets watered pretty well with a thick layer of woodchip mulch. So I'm going to chalk it up to "first year" fruit issues.

I'm definitely going to look up that Sherbet berry. Thanks for the tip! The more berries, the merrier.

One thing I notice about growing seaberry in our oppressive summer—You better treat them with as much TLC as you can reasonably provide because let me tell you, once a seaberry plant begins to lose its leaves in the heat, it is pretty much a goner. High temperature/humidity combined with a soggy soil is not good for its root system...

One of them has defoliated a bit, but not too heavily. Fingers crossed it's not toast. Been trying to keep them watered enough without bogging them down. With our clay soils (even amended with organic matter) and generally poor drainage (these are on a slope thankfully), getting the right balance of soil moisture is always a challenge.

Now you can tell the kids, "Gonna wash your mouth out with maqui berries!" if they are using foul language.

Lol.

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Awesome! Appreciate it, PM incoming.

Any and all good vibes for my Golden Knights tonight would also be appreciated.

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WBM has taught me to wary of any variety that has such lofty claims in it's name.

It may be arguably the world's best at vigorous growth and berry production, but definitely not in flavor. The vast majority of fruit this year and last year were either flavorless, or all tart. Some tasted alright, and there were a few that were genuinely sweet.

Bryce should be ashamed of himself for naming it that and fooling people into thinking it's of any real quality. Should have been called World's Best Rootstock, which is what my tree is in transition to.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Maqui berry in the desert
« on: June 12, 2023, 06:10:13 PM »
Maqui berries appear to have ripened and...they taste like dry soap. The flesh was very firm without the slightest hint of juice, and the seeds inside were still oddly green. Despite the berries being very dark purple for a couple weeks now, I'm wondering if they're still not ripe somehow? Seems unlikely...

I'm hoping this is just a first year thing and they'll be better next year.

Anyone here with experience growing them that can compare their mature, ripened fruit?

Hmmm that’s interesting to note...I’ve heard it a little differently for folks who live in a less than ideal climate for seaberry, especially in areas that can receive high temperature with high humidity. I’m growing mine in the Deep South. Perhaps they seem to fare better in the high heat but low humidity environment of Vegas, so can handle more sunlight? It’s suggested that they be given indirect sunlight in hot regions, and by following that mantra my seaberry seedlings seem to be faring quite well.They’re getting some new leaf growths so that’s a good sign to note, but I also feel like you really need to baby them along way, especially in the heat of the summer. By the way, it’s a similar strategy with lettuce. In the North like Maine you can grow lettuce in full sun in May, June, and July. The temperature is mild so lettuce do not seem to mind being in full sun. Summer in Maine is almost equivalent to late Winter to mid Spring down here...In our summer, we need to give lettuce some shade and protection from the intense heat in order to give them a chance to give us a small but decent harvest, lol.😉

They definitely seem to be very tender plants when they're young and not established. Vegas sun tolerance, I think, depends on if you properly harden them off and give them some afternoon shade. That said, the one I have that's getting the most shade seems to be the healthiest, which I didn't expect based on the other one I had a couple years ago that loved the summer sun.

Lettuce is strictly a late fall/winter/mid-spring crop here. Plant them once the temps get over 90 and they'll bolt as soon as they sprout. Lol.

@CeeJay That's great! Glad to have someone else to bounce off of on how to get seaberries to succeed in the desert.

You're 100% right on how full sun here and in AZ means something very different in other locations. Moreso here since your elevation is a little more forgiving than ours. I'm hopeful afternoon sun will be sufficient to keep them happy. Also mulched and well watered until they can get established.

The real test hasn't come yet as our summer has been unusually mild so far. It's 83 degrees right now, and has stayed in the 80s and 90s for highs for the past few weeks. Totally unheard of for all 41 years I've lived here. Not complaining though. Lol.

Shade cloth will happen if they start to decline.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 🥭Mangos for sale 🥭
« on: June 07, 2023, 02:32:28 PM »
Sign me up! I'm eager to get Maha Chanok; Lemon Zest; Cotton Candy and Honey Kiss.

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