Author Topic: Dream Atemoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton  (Read 116491 times)

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2013, 11:57:08 PM »
Hang on!

I'm working on it...

let me find out some details from Wayne!

I will report back ASAP.
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

fruitlovers

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15883
  • www.fruitlovers.com
    • USA, Big Island, East Hawaii, Zone 13a
    • View Profile
    • Fruit Lover's Nursery
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2013, 02:42:06 AM »
That would be a great service to spread these trees around. Cherimoya is a top caliber fruit! In Hawaii cherimoya fruits well, but only at above 1000 ft. elevation, and it does need hand pollination. So no hand pollination and extended range where it could be grown would be like a dream come true...Pardon the pun.
Oscar

johnb51

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4782
    • USA Deerfield Beach, FL Zone 11a
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2013, 08:26:29 AM »
That would be a great service to spread these trees around. Cherimoya is a top caliber fruit! In Hawaii cherimoya fruits well, but only at above 1000 ft. elevation, and it does need hand pollination. So no hand pollination and extended range where it could be grown would be like a dream come true...Pardon the pun.

Absolutely! ;D
John

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2013, 08:51:25 AM »
Haha,

yes it's like a dream come true!  I actually made the same joke to Wayne!

He says they are so prolific, they need to be pruned somewhat like a guava tree.

He also says when he offers them at the plant sale he attends, they sell out super fast!!

I should have some more info by tonight or tomorrow, about the availability of trees, and Wayne's contact info.

Thanks!
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2013, 10:46:11 AM »
Contact Wayne Clifton about his "Dream" Cherimoya plants, at waykat@mindspring.com

He has a limited amount of trees being propagated now, and will most likely have to take preorders for each batch...but don't quote me on that!

Thanks!

Adam

www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2013, 11:46:37 AM »
Here is a pic of the fruit.

It looks so round, and symmetrical, it's impressive. 

The taste is supposed to be outstanding.


www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

nullzero

  • Zone 10a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3768
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2013, 12:11:15 PM »
Beautiful fruit!  ;D
Grow mainly fruits, vegetables, and herbs.

ofdsurfer

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 383
    • Melbourne Beach FL 32951 10A
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2013, 12:32:09 PM »
Do you know when the season is in Florida?  Are the fruit seedy?

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2013, 12:50:05 PM »
Do you know when the season is in Florida?  Are the fruit seedy?

Not seedy!  Actually has low seed count I believe.

not sure of season, but I'm sure it's similar to atemoya...August- Dec?

www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

ofdsurfer

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 383
    • Melbourne Beach FL 32951 10A
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2013, 12:52:02 PM »
Sounds great!

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2013, 05:08:25 PM »
I was thinking...even if this was an atemoya in disguise, I'd still want to have it!

based on the reported cold tolerance of 19-22F, no hand pollination, fruits in clusters, and makes impressive sized, low seed count fruits.

Call it whatever u want...(it reminds me of an illama, how round it is) but I'm determined to taste this one now.

Wayne said his friend from south america that works for the agricultural department who loves cherimoyas (and has eaten his share), said this is the best one he's ever had.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2013, 05:10:55 PM by ASaffron »
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

nullzero

  • Zone 10a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3768
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2013, 05:26:18 PM »
Adam,

Your making me want one really bad now! The more you talk about it... I wonder how 'Dream' Cherimoya would do at the plant auction  :o, especially if the fruit is up for sample tastings.
Grow mainly fruits, vegetables, and herbs.

fruitlovers

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15883
  • www.fruitlovers.com
    • USA, Big Island, East Hawaii, Zone 13a
    • View Profile
    • Fruit Lover's Nursery
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2013, 03:27:41 AM »
The photo of the fruit looks more like an atemoya than a cherimoya. But it's not possible to tell just from the fruit alone, as there are other cherimoyas that can look like atemoya.
Oscar

davidgarcia899

  • Marabu Groves - Redland, Florida
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1536
  • Marabu Groves
    • USA, Miami-Dade, 33187, 10b
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2013, 08:35:53 AM »
I was thinking...even if this was an atemoya in disguise, I'd still want to have it!

based on the reported cold tolerance of 19-22F, no hand pollination, fruits in clusters, and makes impressive sized, low seed count fruits.

Call it whatever u want...(it reminds me of an illama, how round it is) but I'm determined to taste this one now.

Wayne said his friend from south america that works for the agricultural department who loves cherimoyas (and has eaten his share), said this is the best one he's ever had.


Ya Adam after hearing you description that's how I felt about!
- David Antonio Garcia

johnb51

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4782
    • USA Deerfield Beach, FL Zone 11a
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2013, 08:29:22 PM »
Hooray, I'm on the waiting list for this one! ;D  Thanks, Adam.  (Wayne says the flavor is superior to atemoya.)
John

ofdsurfer

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 383
    • Melbourne Beach FL 32951 10A
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2013, 08:43:20 PM »
Me too ;)

JF

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6652
  • North OC California Zone 10B/America Tropical 13A
    • 90631/97000
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2013, 12:03:44 PM »
Here is a pic of the fruit.

It looks so round, and symmetrical, it's impressive. 

The taste is supposed to be outstanding.



it is shape like a cherimoya, keep us update my friend!

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2013, 12:59:23 PM »
here is another update,

if all goes well, Wayne has invited me to taste the Dream cherimoya fruit later this year.

I've tasted about 5 sugar apple varieties, 5 atemoya varieties, and 2 cherimoya varieties...so I will be excited to compare this one to all of the rest.

I will be sure to photo document the experience, with pics of his largest tree fruiting, and fruits cut in half...showing seed count, and seed shape.




www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

bsbullie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9621
    • USA, Boynton Beach, FL 33472, Zone 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2013, 01:03:51 PM »
Have you tasted any ilama so that a comparison to it cohld also be thrown in the mix?
- Rob

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2013, 01:14:42 PM »
Have you tasted any ilama so that a comparison to it cohld also be thrown in the mix?

no Rob!

I hope to change that this year!!

why don't you make it happen for me?  :)

I've heard red Genova illama (offered by Excalibur pretty much exclusively) is one of the best annona fruits period.
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

bsbullie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9621
    • USA, Boynton Beach, FL 33472, Zone 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2013, 02:37:50 PM »
Adam - I will make it happen.  I love the genova red and guillermo,  both excellent ilama and yes, one of my favorite anonas.
- Rob

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2013, 03:11:28 PM »
Rob,

I will make sure to return the favor...I can mail all sorts of fruit overnight within FL very cheap and easily via ups ground.

Don't worry, I will remind you during the season for illama...July-Nov?

thank a million for your help!!!
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

JF

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6652
  • North OC California Zone 10B/America Tropical 13A
    • 90631/97000
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2013, 05:21:42 PM »
here is another update,

if all goes well, Wayne has invited me to taste the Dream cherimoya fruit later this year.

I've tasted about 5 sugar apple varieties, 5 atemoya varieties, and 2 cherimoya varieties...so I will be excited to compare this one to all of the rest.

I will be sure to photo document the experience, with pics of his largest tree fruiting, and fruits cut in half...showing seed count, and seed shape.

I've had side by side taste test with Atemoyas, Sugar Apple and Cherimoyas in the last month and Cherimoya wins easy. Although I must say my Lisa and African Pride are of the highest qualities this year. I've also had custard apple earlier in the year.

FlyingFoxFruits

  • Prince of Plinia
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12548
  • www.FlyingFoxFruits.com
    • USA, FEMA Region IV, FL Zone 9a
    • View Profile
    • Flying Fox Fruits
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2013, 05:36:13 PM »
another pic of a fruit from the "dream" tree. (sorry a bit blurry)
This one looks more cherimoyaish

« Last Edit: January 18, 2013, 05:38:19 PM by ASaffron »
www.FlyingFoxFruits.com

www.PLINIAS.com

https://www.ebay.com/usr/flyingfoxfruits

www.youtube.com/FlyingFoxFruits

https://www.instagram.com/flyingfoxfruits/
I disabled the forum's personal messaging system, please send an email to contact me, FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

JF

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6652
  • North OC California Zone 10B/America Tropical 13A
    • 90631/97000
    • View Profile
Re: Dream Cherimoya, a variety that fruits in FL ! Introduced by Wayne Clifton
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2013, 05:49:07 PM »
another pic of a fruit from the "dream" tree. (sorry a bit blurry)
This one looks more cherimoyaish


no doubt about it that's a chirimoya