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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of a Spinola avocado?
« on: March 10, 2024, 08:50:07 PM »
Sorry, I don’t have any photos of Spinola. It has medium flesh to seed ratio, better than the pictured fruit.  I’m not familiar with Leahi.

Aloha, Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of a Spinola avocado?
« on: March 05, 2024, 03:06:53 AM »
I’m not a fan of the quality of Yamagata. Hard shell, grit in shell, very productive but can be alternate bearing, dense but can be pasty, not very flavorful but fruiting covers a lot of the summer so I include it in a year round Avocado planting list. Not close to the excellent flavor of Spinola but different season. I don’t consider Spinola a summer variety, we get them in September. Yamagata usually covers May to July.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of a Spinola avocado?
« on: March 03, 2024, 09:25:32 PM »
Hi J-Dogg,

Spinola is a Big Island selection by premier propagator David Frenz of Hilo. It’s named after Judge Spinola in whose yard the seedling grew.  I wouldn’t call it a summer bearing variety. It fills the gap in September between the summer varieties and the Fall. If you have room I recommend filling that gap also with Hulumanu for August.
Spinola has a smooth, thin, black skin, big West Indian seed, very poor “shelf-life”, good sweetness,and excellent flavor. We value them very highly, especially since they are often the only avocado bearing in September. Thank you to David Frenz for propagating this excellent cultivar.
Hulumanu is a West Indian type with thin, pale green skin and a big seed. Fruit can be large and have excellent flavor.
Great year round avocados!
Aloha, Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Star apple varieties?
« on: March 01, 2024, 03:19:55 PM »
Thanks Khan,
I’m trying to determine if I should pursue scionwood of any other Florida star apple selections other than the Burgess and Hipolito.

Then there are the Australian selections Alva and DPI Gold which I think some folks are growing seedlings of in Florida. But I haven’t heard of grafted trees in the US.

And I think Juicy Pearl seedlings are recently planted in the US.

I’d like to grow better star apples.

Thanks!
Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best Star apple varieties?
« on: February 29, 2024, 08:01:34 PM »
Here in Hawaii almost all grafted Star apples are ‘Haitian’, propagated by Plant It Hawaii.  It seems to me not to be a big improvement on average seedlings. Frankie sold some trees of Philippine Gold which is ok. Oscar Jaitt selected a “giant” seedling. Otherwise in Hawaii it’s just purple and a few green seedlings. I think it’s similar in Florida, but I’ve planted Hipolito and Burgess from Julian Lara. He also lists ‘Lara’. I see A-1, Excalibur, and Jaco Beach listed by Excalibur.

I’m inclined to plant more Hipolito and Burgess just based on Julian’s descriptions

Perhaps you folks can give your experience with these varieties or mention some that are better.

Thanks!  Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ziman pink jackfruit leaves
« on: February 28, 2024, 12:08:54 AM »
I’ve grown Ziemann’s Pink for about 25 years. I find it less susceptible to splitting than most of the cvs we have. It is a high latex fruit. The color looks more ruddy orange to me than pink but I’m willing to embrace pink if people tell me it’s there. It’s generally considered the best jakfruit most people around here have had.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 26, 2024, 11:41:04 AM »
Wow Brian,

Amazing you and others are growing these trees in greenhouses. I’m amazed that someone has fruited marang in a greenhouse. I’ve been completely unsuccessful in controlling their size. Kwai Muk and keledang seem much easier to manage. Many folks here successfully keep breadfruit as a small garden tree that fruits but mine is huge.

Aloha, Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 26, 2024, 11:36:38 AM »
Hi Ben,

I hope you’re having a fruitful time. Our one keledang tree didn’t fruit this past year. Windstorms and broken branches might have been a factor. Otherwise they’ve been consistent, usually in fall. I plan to graft several more for our dry farm too.

Aloha, Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: February 25, 2024, 11:04:07 PM »
Not sure we’re part of the US but those are all great here in Hawaii. Not commonly grown but we’ve had them fruiting for 15-20 years. We’ve also planted but not fruited Artocarpus sarawakensis, hirsutus, anisophylus,and elasticus. These are all vigorous, large trees. I wonder how one could grow them in a greenhouse. Maybe lanceifolius with smaller leaves and smaller but very good fruit would be more amenable to undercover culture?

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Hi Jessg333,

I really like Ziemann’s Pink. As far as I know it’s from Australia. Flesh is a ruddy orange and can be quite rich and complex in flavor. J30 is very bland. Peak season for all jakfruit is summer-fall but we can get some anytime of year. Our J30 tree has stayed small but I don’t know if that’s consistent. Ziemann’s Pink growth seems controllable, not excessively vigorous.

Aloha, Steph

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Green Sapote, grafted tree
« on: February 21, 2024, 09:20:50 PM »
I like top mamey better but both species are great.

I don’t consider them hard to graft but I always precondition the scions by cutting the tip and removing leaves a couple of weeks before cutting just like I do for mamey

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Green Sapote, grafted tree
« on: February 21, 2024, 09:15:24 PM »
We really like them. Similar to mamey sapote. Green sapote has finer texture and very thin orange skin. Here in Hawaii they have significantly higher quality at 1500’+elevation than at sea level. Here are ‘Makawao’ in our kitchen right now.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Green Sapote, grafted tree
« on: February 21, 2024, 08:05:47 PM »
Julian at Lara Farms https://larafarmsmiami.com/ sells grafted Poamoho and Whitman. I’m aware of only three green sapote cultivars in the US. Makawao being the third. I’ve eaten those three and some seedlings. Not much selection has been done in the US and there’s not much range in quality. They are all good. All the seedlings I’ve had have been good. I rate Poamoho as slightly better than the rest. Seedlings haven’t taken much longer to come into bearing than grafted trees. Any other cultivars available in the US?

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Cuttings received. Great quality. Thanks!!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kishus Are Doing Well This Year!
« on: November 28, 2023, 12:17:23 AM »
Kishu is my favorite here in Hawaii too. Okitsu Wase Satsuma also a stand out. Kishu is also ridiculously productive.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit vs Cempedak
« on: November 21, 2023, 10:28:28 PM »
I agree Ben, orange fleshed cempedak are a peak experience. Sri Gading chempejak comes pretty close though.


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Hi Kona Fruit Farm,
Yes. Here are the varieties I’m growing in Kula. I have Mangifera species at our wet farm.
Ah Ping
(Ambika)  to propagate
Arka Neelkiran
Beverly
Brahm Kai Meu
Cac
Carla
Ceci Love
Choc Anon
Coconut Cream
Cotton Candy
Creme Brulee
Edward
Fruit Punch
Gouveia
Honey Kiss
Ice Cream
Jumbo Kesar
Kathy
Keitt
(Kinney)  to propagate
Lancetilla
Lemon Zest
Little Gem
Maha Chanok
Mallika
Neelam
Orange Essence
Orange Sherbet
Phoenix
Pickering
Pim Sen Mun
Pineapple Pleasure
Po Pyu Kalay (Lemon Meringue)
Rapoza
Rosigold
Sein ta Lone
(Sonpari)  to propagate
ST Maui
Step
Sugarloaf
Sunrise
Super Julie
Sweet Tart
Tete Nene
Venus
White Pirie
Zill 80
Zill M-4
Zill O-15

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit vs Cempedak
« on: November 20, 2023, 03:54:01 PM »
Chempejak!  Best of both. Vigorous, productive, tough trees, very flavorful, though soft, slimy, fibrous arils which not everyone will like. Chempejak are my second favorite fruit after durian. We need more chempejak varieties in the US. “King” from Penang and many others are great!

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Hi KonaFruitFarm,

I assume you’re not ready to trade scionwood. I’m looking for more scionwood of M-4 and the Oahu selection Kinney. Let me know if you’re looking for scionwood of other varieties.

Here’s a photo of my main mango orchard last eve.

Aloha, Steph


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Hi Kona Fruit Farm,

Well done.  I’ve had a similar experience. Some of these varieties have been grown in the islands but I don’t know of others besides ourselves who are planting a wide range of the Gary Zill selections in Hawaii. My list looks similar to yours, but I’m stopping at about 60 varieties, over 100 trees. Most of mine have been growing for a year and a half at 1350’ elevation in dry Omaopio, Kula, Maui, Hawaii. Let’s share info when they fruit.

We’d like to hear from anyone else who is growing these varieties in Hawaii.

If there’s anyone on Maui or other Hawaiian islands that wants to plant Gary Zill selections and other mango varieties, I have already passed on lots of scionwood to Natureworks Nursery in Haiku Maui. https://natureworksnursery.com/  For example they had dozens of Lemon Zest when I was last there. Nice trees, 3 gal and up.

Aloha, Steph

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / SSA Atemoya
« on: August 30, 2023, 01:46:20 AM »
I’ve just heard of an atemoya variety new to me. Can anyone comment on the relative quality of SSA Atemoya?

Thanks!
Steph

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I’ve been trying to grow mangos in a wet zone for over 25 years. We’ve gotten very marginal success with Fairchild, Rapoza, Ewais, Kau Dwarf, and Vallenato. For really wet areas I highly recommend mango relatives. You might want to try them before planting as they have unfamiliar flavors and can be very fibrous.

Kuini (Mangifera odorata) can bear several times a year, often in winter. I love this fruit but it is very smelly (mercaptan/propane?) and fibrous. Very productive, no anthracnose. No fruit flies. You can pick unblemished fruit up off the ground from a huge tree.
Kasturi (Mangifera casturi). Very small, dark fruits. Extremely fibrous, you’re pretty much sucking juice.  Delightful, unique flavor some have likened to lychee. Early season
Lalee Jewo (Mangifera lalijiwa) very mild flavor, very low acid , reminiscent of sugar cane juice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Marking Mangos
« on: July 11, 2023, 11:36:46 AM »
I see folks marking variety name or initials on individual mango fruits with a sharpie or other pen. I’d like a more aesthetically pleasing and edible method. Anyone have suggestions?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Year Round Mamey
« on: July 05, 2023, 03:28:59 AM »
I have Lorito too. It is said to bear at the same time as Pantin though. Do you know the season for Excalibur?

Yes, but I’ve heard from a knowledgeable source that Lorito is the superior fruit.

You could also add green Sapote (close enough to mamey) for more winter fruit.

I agree. We really like green sapote. We have Makawao green sapote and the other Hawaiian selection Poamoho. I haven’t tried Whitman.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Year Round Mamey
« on: July 05, 2023, 03:26:44 AM »

Im not positive about the season but excalibur tends to have the fruit available November/December.
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Wow thanks. If Excalibur bears in winter I definitely need to add it.

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