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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: barren Lemon Zest
« on: May 22, 2021, 11:06:45 AM »
Searched and found info on girdling - will try on a couple branches.

I didn't really tag all (any) my early grafts in last few years ' cuz was just learning and didn't care that much.
Grafted Glenn, CC, NamDoc, Pickering on the LZ tree (all from my other trees). 
Also put some on the Wally, but only one graft took and that branch has about 8 fruit; It's marked as LZ, but might actually be a CC; but it's larger now than the CC on my actual CC tree.  Hoping for LZ.
I'll take one to Walter and find out what it really is - and THEN I'll mark it. 

PS - sort of off topic, how to put a long life mark on grafted branches, 'cuz after fruiting, would like to remember what they are/were.

Thanks all.  Great web site.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: barren Lemon Zest
« on: May 19, 2021, 05:03:58 PM »
It has NamDoc and Glenn fruiting only.
Haven't fertilized anything in a year, not even grass; although grass needs it - usually 8-8-8 and trees get a bit.
There were no LZ blooms this year that I could see.  A lot of the tree now is something else.
I started grafting it so much 'cuz it made me angry with no LZ fruit.  Was hoping the tree would feel the pain and give me LZ.  Alas, no.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / barren Lemon Zest
« on: May 18, 2021, 06:42:26 PM »
My Lemon Zest is at least 6 or more years old and still doesn't fruit.  Admittedly, I trim it every year, but I trim my other trees and they always fruit.  Measures about 8 inches at base and currently at least 12 ft high.  I often wonder if it is really a LZ.  It is surely an aggressive straight up grower, like an LZ should be.
In learning to graft, I grafted from my other trees (Glenn, NamDoc, CC, and Pickering) onto the LZ, and got some Glenn and NamDocs from it this year, but alas, no LZ.
My Nam Doc#4 also fruits seldom - nothing this year and last, but the grafts I took from it are fruiting on the LZ and a Fairchild.  Don't care much because not thrilled by the Nam Doc (fruit splitting).  Gonna graft something else onto it. 

Was told to put Borax on LZ, did that.  And some kind of Calcium mix, did that.  Maybe the orchid on it is strangling the tree.

Is there some secret to making it produce LZ fruits?
Tried to add image, not sure if it worked tho'.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Care for pruned large limbs
« on: July 22, 2020, 09:18:51 PM »
Careless me.  I posted this  in the for sale forum and couldn't see how to move it here; or delete it.  Help...So sorry...

I just had to cut some rather large limbs from my mango tree.  It was unfortunately planted over 40 years ago under power lines - stupid me.
I've been able to keep it down, but notice I sometimes get a bit of rot on the pruned limb - like there is a 1/2 to 3/4 inch hole.  Looks like rot anyway.

Just wondering, should I put some whitewash on the cuts and will that prevent the rot.  Or use the pruning "tar" stuff?
The cuts are angled so that rain will roll off.
If I do whitewash, will that prevent new shoots?  I want new shoots 'cuz want to do some more grafting on it.

Or just leave the limbs alone - maybe use shade cloth to keep sun off.  Was told that limbs need to avoid direct sun so to not sunburn.

Thanks,

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fla. Dept. Agriculture pamphlets
« on: July 20, 2020, 06:58:44 PM »
I have some old books/pamphlets from "way back when" that I feel like I should give away.  I am late in life and would hate to see them be discarded.
All but one was published by USDA.
I made photos (digitized?) of the mango book, but am not inclined to digitize them all.

All of them, I would be willing to send via USPS if someone (in Florida) is interested in them.
I offered to USDA in Miami, but no response yet.  They did however respond previously re the Mango book, and granted permission to place in public domain.
All are black & white, no color pics; and they are, of course, outdated and probably of historical value only.

I guess I seek permission to place the one digitized one (mango) on the forum for any interested parties to view.  And what is the procedure?
Attached is the first page of the digitized "Mango Growing in Florida" booklet.

They are listed below:

Mango Growing in Florida by Geo. D. Ruehle and R. Bruce Ledin  84 pages
Shrubs; by Charles S Bush  174 pages
The Lychee in Floridal by Milton Cobin  34 pages
Native and Exotic Palms of Florida; by R. D. Dickey, Erdman West, and Harold Mowry - 1966  64 pages
Ornamental Hedges for Florida; by R. D. Dickey and Harold Mowry  34 pages
Grades and Standards for Nursery Plants; by Charles S Bush - 1972  210 pages
Handbook on Dwarfed Potted Trees; from Brooklyn Botanical Garden  96 pages




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Thought I asked before but maybe not.
Any BuddyTape left?  Pls send a private msg also - not sure how to get notified for reply here.

Thanks,

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango tree sizes
« on: April 25, 2020, 12:33:22 PM »
Not so high 'cause I prune the top almost every year.  See the power lines.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mango tree sizes
« on: April 24, 2020, 10:08:11 PM »
I have 7 mango trees and try to keep them fairly small in my 7500 sq ft lot, so will never know how they might look when full grown.
But now, I want to plant a 4th tree in my sons yard (bigger than mine) - alread has a Pickering, NDM#4, Cogshall.
Want a tree that will quite large and eventually replace a very large fig tree.
Trying to determine what tree can do that  is difficult - descriptions of various trees are vigorously, moderately vigorous, spreading, etc all over the place.
For example, my Coconut Cream is described by the seller as "moderately low and spreading", but it is actually quite vigorous and rapidly outpacing my Glenn next to it.
I know a Valencia Pride, Haden and some of the old Florida mangos ones are quite large, but some of the newer or recently imported ones I don't know.

So, May I suggest or hope some of you could post some pics of your mango trees and how old they are - e.g. should be at least 10 years old.
I'll put my 50 year old Wally on here tomorrow.  The CC is only about may 4 or 5 years.  My LZ is maybe 7 and grows like a weed - straight up and fast - with no fruit ever - possibly aggressive pruning prevents fruiting.  Got 9 grafts on it now tho.

Anyway, hope some folks can post some pics.

Thanks,
Jimmy

Modified post - Here are pics from Sat 4/25/20 am.
First 3 are the old, old Wally.  Fortunately, it branched very low to ground so can keep it under power lines and still get fruit (every year).
4th pic (....635) is CC - about between 3 and 5 years.
5th pic (...659) is Glenn - same age as CC.
Sign in front says "no pick mangos"
Funny story, last year I had abundance of Glenn fruit, but had it tagged wrong as the CC and tagged the CC as Glenn.
Gave a bunch away and everyone said "best they ever had" - I had told them they were CC, mistakenly - none questioned it.
Walter came over one day to see the Wally and straightened me out as to which was CC.


I broke my 10 year old rule, sorry....











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If you (Behl?) have any buddy tape rolls unclaimed, pls let me know.  Missed it I guess; been using some the Japanese writing  on box 30m stuff.  Love to try the real thing.  Getting about 1 out of 4 or 5 to take.  No luck on my big Wally tree yet.

Thanks,

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Thanks Har.  One other expert also called powdery mildew; and my neighbor - ex nursery owner - thought maybe anthracnose.  I been putting different fungicides on it.  Pretty much now resigned to losing the tree.  No uninfected leaves left.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: December 27, 2019, 05:08:54 PM »
I am Jimmy
Live in Boynton Beach, FL about 2 or 3 blocks west of I-95 and maybe 2 miles from ocean.
Have 7 thriving mangoes in my yard - Wally (bought from Lawrence Zill's place about 50 yrs ago), Fairchild, Pickering, Glenn, Coconut Cream, Nam Doc Mai #4, Lemon Zest. 
Also have planted at my son's house a Pickering, Nam Doc, and a Cogshall.
Last summer did a lot of grafting.   Mostly making my own scions and grafting to my other trees.   Bad success rate tho' - about 6 out of 30.
Also have a 4 month old Pineapple Pleasure in a pot which is mysteriously diseased - just posted a plea for help on this one.

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Help.  My Pineapple Pleasure obtained in about Sept/Oct this year and still in the 3-gal pot seems to be struggling with shriveling new leaf growth.  They look like someone is sucking all of the moisture out of them.  I plucked a couple and looked with about a 10x magnifier  but don't really see anything, and don't feel anything when I rub with my finger.  I sprayed yesterday over and under with Bonide (sulfur 10%/pyrethrin .25%) fungicide, then Daconil fungicide, and then malathion, and today imidacloprid (sorry to say, but desperate).  It's raining off and on so will repeat again when a good day.  My other 7 mango trees show no signs of this illness.
Hopefully, the pics might give a hint to someone - I'll cry if I lose this tree. 
Think I will also cut off all this diseased new growth. 

Thanks to all and have a very Happy New Year.











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I just discovered this thread.  Been trying to graft my mango trees using both my own scions and a few purchased.
After trying this one, I find that I have difficulty determining how deep to make the cut.  Seems like everyone else figured it out, but not me apparently. 
I make the cuts, but the bark doesn't really "lift" off as suggested it should.  Seem to more like have to scrape it off or cut it off.  Perhaps I am not cutting deep enough - hard to know.
I am color blind (red/green) so may be a factor.
Been using parafilm tape and just obtained some Aglis buddy tape coming in tomorrow. 

So... with say, a 1/2 or 3/4  or even a 1 inch diameter limb, about how deep would one make the cut to get to the cambium layer.
I am trying to create a couple of "cocktail' tree using scions from my 6 trees.

Thanks much; and let me know if I should just create a new thread as suggested.



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: FOR SALE: 25 gal Ugly Betty
« on: October 26, 2017, 10:46:11 AM »
Hi.  Just saw this.  Thinking of getting an Ugly Betty.  just curious - why did you sell it?  production issues, size.  I am in east Boynton,, just east of Congress.
Thanks,

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