The Tropical Fruit Forum

It describes the key morphological characteristics that distinguish the two species. If you go through to the key itself you can find distinct descriptions of each species. The first line of each indicates that the new growth on each species is distinct and different.  P. campechiana, "
Tree; young shoots finely sericeous, soon gla- brous,greyish-brown, finelycracked,lenticellate"

P. lucuma "young shoots puberulous to shortly pu- bescent, becoming glabrous, pale grey-brown, slightly roughened and scaling, lenticellate or not."

They are definitely very similar species and very closely related, which is why  they are in the same section.  This map even is a good representative of the distributions which is fun to ponder their evolutionary histories and the reason they are distinct species.

Brad, have you had experience with netafim supernet?  I am rocking the Netafim supernet Purple SRD which have a 6 foot radius and flow at 5.3GPH, but can be modified to a 9 foot radius by breaking off the deflector.  Pretty happy with them so far, minus the experience of ordering them haha.

The struggle is real! I'm starting to wonder if the moist type is a myth! haha.  I have heard that there are some people in Southern California that have a moist type, but connecting with them seems to be difficult.  Thanks for the reports on all the phenotypes that you have, love hearing about others experiences with this species.

Does anyone in the Bay area know about this partnership yang-mei grower?
Seems like they have varieties that are not originally from China?
http://calmei-yangmei.com/grow-with-us/

I'm pretty sure they've just renamed those varieties for the market here

I move my plants with white fly outdoors from my hoop house and that seems to resolve my issue most of the time.

Probably around 40-50% takes.

I had one that took but after I unwrapped it and went to plant it a couple days later it snapped off the union. It had only healed in one small section, about a mm or two.  They certainly are difficult to graft.

I always encourage the plant vendors I buy live plants from to send these live items via FedEx or UPS.

USPS will not guarantee that plants sent via them will arrive safely and, in my experience, this has proved true about 30% of the time.  Even USPS's 2nd day priority often has arrived to me after more than five days.  Or the parcels frequently arrive feeling very warm to the touch!  And this problem of warm parcels can be significant, especially due to the very high temperatures we experience here in Florida during the summertime months, what with a parcel often sitting in a USPS mailtruck for upwards of six to eight hours before being delivered to me!

I try to convey this USPS situation to plant vendors and ask that they ship to me using UPS- or FedEx 2nd Day.  With the two of these latter the 2nd day option has always gotten plants to me safely and quickly and seldom do I accept a parcel from either of them which feels warm. 

A few vendors seem to be reluctant to use anything other than USPS saying that it costs too much to ship via UPS or FedEx.  And that's even though I am willling to pay extra for more prompt delivery so that I can count on receiving plants –especially very rare ones– in healthy, undamaged condition.  Even so, some sellers seem loathe to take advantage of these two safe & more prompt shipping methods.

OK – End of rant!  Thanx for reading all the way though this.

Best Regards,

Paul M.
Tampa, FL

UPS is often cheaper for me actually. I just know that sometimes people's addresses require delivery by certain services. I would probably prefer to use UPS and have a bit, but don't have enough experience to say I understand exactly what goes on over there.

I'm in the same area as bush2beach. Had mine in hoop houses ND they just refused to grow and ultimately just all died after years of being tortured

Quote from: nattyfroootz on June 25, 2022, 07:04:41 PM

Sweet! I believe they are.  I think the Santa Barbara tree that these originated from is a solitary tree

Did you happen to ever try the fruit at the optimal time?

Yes, I've tried it unripe and ripe. I prefer it unripe as it's a little more crunchy green apple flavor and much less garlicy

Sweet! I believe they are.  I think the Santa Barbara tree that these originated from is a solitary tree

Can I claim the Florida?

All you! It's a seedling from my fruiting plant. Those cali genetics 

How's it going everyone? I have a bunch of 5g plants ready to get planted out in peoples yards (or potted up if you are into that sort of thing). They are too big to ship and I would be stoked to let them go to people in the area for a pretty great price! I'll post up more as I see what's good to go at the orchard. Will Update with pictures. If theres a large enough group in the bay area that wants to arrange to meet in the bay area, I could make that happen.

Myrcianthes pungens, 5g, 50$

Eugenia myrcianthes, 5g, 50$
Eugenia selloi (flowering), 5g, 100$

Syzygium jambos, 5g, 50$
Eugenia uniflora, 5g, 50$
Eugenia florida, 5g, 150$
Campomanesia hirsuta, 300$
Grafted Yangmei (From china, has Root Knot Nematode from shipper in China)
1g Biqi, 300$

I have planted about 20 greens and a grafted green on green, they loveeee it at my orchard (Zone 9b, Santa Cruz).  I planted a small 1g seedling in the ground before winter and it had no issues.