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garcinia madroņo
« on: March 12, 2021, 08:22:20 PM »


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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2021, 10:16:59 PM »
Awesome! Love this fruit!

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2021, 01:45:14 AM »
Very nice!  At what size does the tree start to fruit?

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2021, 09:26:56 AM »
Take 5 years. Is grafted.

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2021, 12:04:16 PM »
This is a great fruit. There is some variation in fruit size and shape. Fruit from a good tree is equal to and can beat achachairu. I am guessing it will take 7 - 9 years in FL.  I have 4 trees in the ground, one is grafted. The earliest of the 5 flowered in around 5 - 6 years but none have fruited yet. 
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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2021, 01:58:04 PM »
Is TARS your sources?

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2021, 02:06:33 PM »
Bush2beach, can you help us a little bit. What is TARS? Sorry, there are so many abbreviations nowadays.

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2021, 05:23:25 PM »
Bush2beach, can you help us a little bit. What is TARS? Sorry, there are so many abbreviations nowadays.

TARS is the Tropical Agriculture Research Station in Puerto Rico, run by the USDA. They have a huuuuge selection of cacao, and many many other things. Supposedly people in Puerto Rico have been able to acquire germplasm from them, but my online requests and emails have been to no avail.

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2021, 05:38:18 PM »
The first batch I planted, I got the seeds from a person in PR so I am not really sure. The fruitlets have the right shape to be from TARS, round. The last time I visited PR and went to TARS, the person I got the seeds from was our guide and we ate from the tree.  I brought back those seeds from the fruit I ate and at least 2 of my trees in the ground are from those. My grafted tree is from Jardin Enaidas. The graft is high so I will have round and lemon shaped fruit one day.

Is TARS your sources?
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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2021, 06:52:16 PM »
mine is from a private coleccionist. Madroņo  is usually
deocius. TARS isn't what it was .
 

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2021, 08:34:54 PM »
Canito 17, thanks for the response.  How big was the tree when it started fruiting? 

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2021, 10:00:12 PM »
just 10 feet. Lower branches at 6 inch. Bush form, almost round. And yes heavy producer .

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2021, 10:20:11 PM »
Just noticed one of my madronos today set a fruit. Almost 7 years old. Others around the same age haven't yet produced, hopefully next year.




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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2021, 11:08:34 PM »
I found a pic of my madruno flowers. There is one in the upper right corner  that has 4 lobes, how I assume the TARS fruits look when at that stage. All these aborted. I have not seen a male flower on this tree yet.



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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2021, 04:11:10 AM »
Garcinia madruno alright but the name madrono get applied to a few species. I have tasted some fuzzy madronos that have been very sweet and quite large.

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2021, 10:47:50 AM »
I found a pic of my madruno flowers. There is one in the upper right corner  that has 4 lobes, how I assume the TARS fruits look when at that stage. All these aborted. I have not seen a male flower on this tree yet.



Strange. Maybe it's just practicing  ;D
Just checked my tree again, another flower set fruit. 2/2 so far. Will see if they abort..

I believe Sadhu donated a sweet madrono selection to TARS many years ago. It was a nice big fruiting tree before Hurricane Maria. I wonder if the tree survived the storm. I got many of my madrono seeds from him.

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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2021, 02:11:38 PM »
My garcinia trees do a lot of "practicing" and I am starting to take it personally. :'(  Today I grafted male budwood on one of my female Luc's. My theory is that some trees are capable of accepting pollen from mature trees and setting fruit before they are capable of producing viable pollen. My Luc's trees have flowered for 3 years without setting fruit from their own pollen. It will be a race to full maturity and the male branches producing flowers. I expect it will take 2 - 3 years for the scions to grow enough to flower. I think fruit set will be better with the male branches either way.

My seeds are from Sadhu.

I found a pic of my madruno flowers. There is one in the upper right corner  that has 4 lobes, how I assume the TARS fruits look when at that stage. All these aborted. I have not seen a male flower on this tree yet.



Strange. Maybe it's just practicing  ;D
Just checked my tree again, another flower set fruit. 2/2 so far. Will see if they abort..

I believe Sadhu donated a sweet madrono selection to TARS many years ago. It was a nice big fruiting tree before Hurricane Maria. I wonder if the tree survived the storm. I got many of my madrono seeds from him.
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Re: garcinia madroņo
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2021, 04:53:09 PM »
Finally popped this in ground about a month ago.