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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Coach62 on July 02, 2019, 12:18:03 AM
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Which would they be and why?
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I don't like this defeatist attitude, you can always make more room
but to answer the question:
1. m-4 mango: best coconut mango
2. sugar loaf: pineapple/coconut mango
3. sweet tart: complex flavor
4. orange sherbert: just to see how it does in my yard
5. coconut cream: cool looking tree and coconut cream flavor
6. Kathy: just to see how it does in my yard
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Coconut cream can taste bad over ripe
Dropped cc substantialy in my rating
So replace it with Ciotton Candy and call it a day
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So M-4 is better than Coconut Cream, and Sugarloaf is better than Piña Colada? Does everyone agree, or are there some dissenters? (And why doesn't M-4 have a name yet?)
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I don't think enough is known about M4 yet to say it is better than CC. If it is, then will need one, as every CC I've had has been amazing and delightful.
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I don't think enough is known about M4 yet to say it is better than CC. If it is, then will need one, as every CC I've had has been amazing and delightful.
Gotcha. Maybe the same with Sugarloaf and PC?
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Coconut Cream is by far the best mango I've ever eaten. Everything about the mango itself is amazing. I have found the trees to be shy bearer's thus far, but if that doesn't change, it can be remedied by planting more of them :)
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Coconut Cream is by far the best mango I've ever eaten. Everything about the mango itself is amazing. I have found the trees to be shy bearer's thus far, but if that doesn't change, it can be remedied by planting more of them :)
Have to agree, wouldn't say the best, but it is a damn good mango and we savor every single one our tree produces. It is my wifes favorite though. In my top 3 or 4 for sure. We also have PPK for our citrusy flavored mango, Fairchild for small personal snack size mango, pickering for our powerhouse producer share with friends mango, and honey kiss for our late season. Running out of room so torn between planting 1 or 2 more low vigor trees, or grafting onto PPK or Fairchild to make a multi variety tree of 2 or 3 varities.
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Also have to add: Lemon Zest is top 3 for me. Amazing flavor, texture, and good size. Too bad it has issues with disease. Still plan on grafting some LZ because it is just that good.
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I've only tried 60 or so varieties of mango (so not nearly as many as others on here), but here's what I'd do:
Coconut cream: My favorite mango. My tree is quite productive as well
Lemon Zest: I like the flavor more than OS, and my area doesn't seem to be affected by the bacterial spot yet
Cotton Candy: I currently grow this tree but haven't tasted it yet. I love "Cotton Candy" flavored fruit though (Muntinga and Cotton Candy grapes), so if it lives up to it's name it's a keeper
Bailey's Marvel: My favorite "mango-flavored" mango
Mangifera lalijiwa: Very sweet and gives some variety by being non-indica.
Pickering: Good flavor, compact tree, and a little earlier than other varieties
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I love mango but if I have to grow it, I will pick only my few favourite ones as follows:
1. Rhinomango => Many people love eating when unripe, but I do love eating it when it is going to ripe. It is sweet and sour at the same time. I planted a grafted one, got 3 fruits in the 2nd year.
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/c37d6d43e661d2224b05719516c4447b/5DA66CAE/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/30601531_203326766939000_2916159700221296640_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com)
2. Mamaungbao : It is local mango of southern part of Thailand which has same size as chicken egg. This raw mango has sour taste, crispy meat and natural smell so it is often mixed in many recipe; pounded mango as namprik or pickled mango. I planted one grafted tree and it produced tons of fruits in the 3rd year.
(https://scontent-frt3-2.cdninstagram.com/vp/4739ef323ca4724d13f96e39ab6b5912/5DBDFC23/t51.2885-15/e35/s480x480/59307704_788848214830437_643043425592032374_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.cdninstagram.com&ig_cache_key=MjA0NTA1Njc3NjU3MDk3ODI2MA%3D%3D.2&_nc_ig_catcb=1)
3. Barracuda mango (Nam Dok Mai): I love its sweet taste. They can be identified by the uniquely pale yellow skin and long slender candlelight shape. I love eating it when fully ripen and best consumed with sweentened sticky rice, thicken coconut milk and a sprinkle of sesame seeds. It is one of the most popular deserts in Thailand.
(https://www.thairath.co.th/media/NjpUs24nCQKx5e1A7lrdN6DhxpxXt8etNQASr4yJBPC.jpg)
These only 3 varieties are enough for me, cannot find any more other varieties which I love so much so I want to grow them.
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I don't like this defeatist attitude, you can always make more room
but to answer the question:
1. m-4 mango: best coconut mango
2. sugar loaf: pineapple/coconut mango
3. sweet tart: complex flavor
4. orange sherbert: just to see how it does in my yard
5. coconut cream: cool looking tree and coconut cream flavor
6. Kathy: just to see how it does in my yard
I like Key our list !
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1. Rosigold - earliest mango I have - decent flavor, good disease resistance and productive.
2. pickering - great little tree, earlier season, coconut flavor
3. LZ - love the fruit, haven't had too many issues with disease. Just make sure you spray the blooms with sulfur.
4. Sweet tart - Great flavor and productivity
5. Carrie - just one of my favorites flavorwise, always a healthy tree. sometimes good crops and sometimes small crops, but have 3 sources from my yard.
6. Honeykiss(productivity), M4(good coconut flavor) or Keitt(good size and very late) for late season mango.
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Ppk
Orange Sherbet
Sugarloaf
Cotton candy
Lemon Zest
Seacrest
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Bailey's Marvel or Haden (awesome classic taste)
PPK (awesome citrus taste)
Coconut Cream (awesome coconut taste)
Pim Seng Mun (the ones from a tasting a couple years ago were some of the best mangos I've ever eaten)
Pickering (as noted, a workhorse)
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Is Dwarf Hawaiian a better early mango than Rosigold?
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I've never tried dwarf hawaiian, but I like the Rosigold flavor. Clean flavor with some sub acid and good texture, sometimes I detect hints of vanilla.
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Happy 4th.
So if you could only have 5-6 mango trees?.
You would be sad and wish you could have more
and if you have more you will wonder what to do with the fruits
and if you wonder what you do with them, you will consider a desiccator and a blender
If you get a blender you will make shakes
If you get a desiccator you will make dried mango chips
If you like your shakes and your chips you will want more
If you want more you will want even more mango trees
and if .....
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Is Dwarf Hawaiian a better early mango than Rosigold?
I have tasted both and DH is a clear winner for me. I have a tree in my yard as well. Smaller mango, but full of flavor. The tree stays small as well.
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My list:
Lemon Zest
Sweet Tart
Sugar Loaf
Pickering
Kesar
Keitt
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1. Coconut Cream
2. Malika (how this is not in most people's top 5 is beyond me)
3. Pineapple Pleasure
4. Sweettart
5. Peach Cobbler (have yet to taste however)
6. PPK
-Jon
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1. Rosigold - earliest mango I have - decent flavor, good disease resistance and productive.
2. pickering - great little tree, earlier season, coconut flavor
3. LZ - love the fruit, haven't had too many issues with disease. Just make sure you spray the blooms with sulfur.
4. Sweet tart - Great flavor and productivity
5. Carrie - just one of my favorites flavorwise, always a healthy tree. sometimes good crops and sometimes small crops, but have 3 sources from my yard.
6. Honeykiss(productivity), M4(good coconut flavor) or Keitt(good size and very late) for late season mango.
Carrie is a great flavor of mango, spicy, rich, creamy and sweet.
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After a lot of tasting & research these are the 7 trees I chose to plant (plus a mislabeled Valencia Pride I was sent by mistake). With trees you also have to consider seasons, reliability & not just the flavor of the fruit. You want to make sure you have a EARLY, MID & LATE SEASON varieties. In fact if you were only going to have 3 trees I would make spreading the season my top priority for selection. For myself Glenn, Carrie & Lancetilla would be my choices for spreading the season.
1. Carrie - #1 Best selling Mango in South Florida for a good reason. It's the epitome of a rich sweet indulgent decadent desert mango. Best mid season choice.
2. Glenn - The best early. Reliable & excellent refreshing cantaloupe like flavor when fully ripe. It's my favorite "breakfast" mango.
3. Lemon Meringue/PPK - It's a must have. Tart Lemon flavor when slightly under ripe. Sweet Orange flavor when fully ripe.
4. Edward - Shy bearer, but still #1 for flavor with a lot of Florida old timers. Creamy & extremely WELL BALANCED flavor.
5. Lancetilla - YES LANCETILLA!!! Excellent flavor when allowed to fully ripen which takes longer due to their size. The 5 stars rating for flavor on the Pine Island Web Site is spot on. It's size isn't a factor. Good late season choice.
6. Mallika - No Camel Dung or special ripening required IME. Full flavored Mango - not for sissies. Like a Carrie on steroids. It will punch you in the face the first time you try it. The flavor will quickly grow on you even if you aren't sure about it at first. Keep trying it till you love it.
7. Keitt - Only because it's the latest, prolific & reliable. Good flavor, but wouldn't win any contests for flavor alone.
THUMBS DOWN
1. Nam Dok Mai - One note mango - over rated. Blandly sweet but no mango flavor.
2. Maha Chanok - Tastes like a carrot - over rated. It's pretty & photogenic but that's all.
3. Angie - Tastes like pureed over cooked carrots with a dash of old sneaker - just plain nasty. It's a spitter.
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I'd plant Jehangir, Neelam, Zill Indochinese, Shwe Hin Tha, Mulgoba, Lemon Zest and Banganapalli. Then I'd totally cheat and graft at least 3 more varieties on each. Variety is good :-)
Best regards,
Scott
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1. Coconut Cream
2. Malika (how this is not in most people's top 5 is beyond me)
3. Pineapple Pleasure
4. Sweettart
5. Peach Cobbler (have yet to taste however)
6. PPK
-Jon
Hahaha don't know yet, will taste a malika mango soon
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2. Malika (how this is not in most people's top 5 is beyond me)
-Jon
Jon, I cannot agree more with you —it really blows my mind. This year my 7' X 6' tree produced 40 delicious and perfect fruits. The tree stays small, super healthy, super productive and the fruits stay spotless until the day you pick them. My wife says that eating a Mallika is like eating mango ice cream. Really, there is nothing wrong with this variety.
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3. Barracuda mango (Nam Dok Mai): I love its sweet taste. They can be identified by the uniquely pale yellow skin and long slender candlelight shape. I love eating it when fully ripen and best consumed with sweentened sticky rice, thicken coconut milk and a sprinkle of sesame seeds. It is one of the most popular deserts in Thailand.
(https://www.thairath.co.th/media/NjpUs24nCQKx5e1A7lrdN6DhxpxXt8etNQASr4yJBPC.jpg)
These NDM mangoes in the photo look the same as the Vietnamese CAT CHU with pale yellow skin characteristic. I have neither of them so could someone confirm how much difference between them?
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1. Coconut Cream
2. Malika (how this is not in most people's top 5 is beyond me)
3. Pineapple Pleasure
4. Sweettart
5. Peach Cobbler (have yet to taste however)
6. PPK
-Jon
Tasted a Malika and was not impressed by it.
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1. Coconut Cream
2. Malika (how this is not in most people's top 5 is beyond me)
3. Pineapple Pleasure
4. Sweettart
5. Peach Cobbler (have yet to taste however)
6. PPK
-Jon
Tasted a Malika and was not impressed by it.
First time I sampled Mallika, it was bordering on terrible. had this off taste, couple years later sampled one that fell on the ground at Fruit and Spice park, and it was very good. I later purchased a few from Chris, on the green side, put them in a paper bag in the garage, and they were the best mangoes I sampled that year.
I think these taste better picked mature green, and allowed to ripen in a warm location. give them another try.
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I couldn't decide on 5-6 trees.
Started out last yr picking what was available in the home centers with vague advice from no forum posts online (wasn't a member then) Alphonso, Mallika, and Valencia Pride. The Valencia fruited this yr- 2 only
Racoon got 1 the other I will get!- keeping it on the tree a few ore days.
Then I found this forum and a few good local nurseries and tree sales... Due to research here and polling friends
I'm Looking forward to These:
Venus - size and flavor and supposed to be late season
Coconut cream -because it's so recommended -love coconut and didn't know about sugar loaf first!
Sweet Tart_ sounds great and I like mangos that have a tart bite with the sweetness
Lemon zest_ because of the complexity of taste as well
Orange Sherbert_ because I thought I might be missing a good one
Pineapple Pleasure_ figuring a little pineapple together with the coconut cream makes 4 a pina colada
Not that I'm not exited about the rest, I definitely am but these were my must haves even if space is getting tight .
The others in ground or ready to plant include:
Cotton Candy, Ice Cream, Fruit Punch, Peach Cobbler
Cac, kent,buttercream,
nam doc mai ( which I tasted locally after planting and it was just ok)
there are too many choices! I'm out of room.. want to buy the adjoining lot!
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2. Malika (how this is not in most people's top 5 is beyond me)
-Jon
Jon, I cannot agree more with you —it really blows my mind. This year my 7' X 6' tree produced 40 delicious and perfect fruits. The tree stays small, super healthy, super productive and the fruits stay spotless until the day you pick them. My wife says that eating a Mallika is like eating mango ice cream. Really, there is nothing wrong with this variety.
I have a Mallika tree and have been trying for years... Ripen in a bag, ripen in the garage, ripen on the tree. Never any good! It tastes more like a vegetable than a mango! It's getting topworked...I don't keep spitters in the yard.
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Re: Mallika. When I had a tree in Coconut Creek, I really liked the fruit. Here in Deerfield Beach, I didn't and got rid of the tree. So probably depends on where it's grown. Also, I believe I heard Chris and Har say on one of her mango-tasting videos that she has always let Mallika ripen on the tree without any issues.
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So sugar loaf over coconut cream?
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Ok count me in. I will include lemon zest and orange sherbet based on reflected esteem as I have never tries them. The 4 others would be:
- sam ru du
-Maha Chanok
-NDM
- Hong kong giant/gold
Honourable mentions to Rabaul, okrung and KP is just too common to grow one.
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Just for a little spics I might add a dirty dozen, or maybe just a filthy five of a few that take mediocre or over-exposure to new heights. I don't want to leave anyone with a bad after-taste.
-brroks
-palmer
-kent
-turpentine
-julie
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Ok count me in. I will include lemon zest and orange sherbet based on reflected esteem as I have never tries them. The 4 others would be:
- sam ru du
-Maha Chanok
-NDM
- Hong kong giant/gold
Honourable mentions to Rabaul, okrung and KP is just too common to grow one.
Can you describe the flavor of sam ru du?
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I live in Australia and have never heard of any of these?? We have bowen mangoes and the only other one I have ever seen is Calypso??
Mangoes that taste like coconut cream? How do we get these in australia ???
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I live in Australia and have never heard of any of these?? We have bowen mangoes and the only other one I have ever seen is Calypso??
Mangoes that taste like coconut cream? How do we get these in australia ???
That is a really good question. I will try to find out just out of curiosity. So far all i know is to send budwood you would need a phytosanitary certificate. I don't think there is enough profit to make it worth anyone's time. I am not sure how you would get the one's with polyembryonic seeds