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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lucuma vs Canistel morphology.
« on: July 10, 2022, 03:29:43 PM »
Found a key online that indicates the morphological differences between the two.
Here's a small section from the Section Rivicoa of which P. lucuma and P. campechiana are both in.

Page 376
The key can be found here.
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Does_anyone_have_the_key_to_identify_Pouteria_Sapotaceae_of_Amazon_rainforests


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rate My (Preliminary) Drip Irrigation Layout
« on: July 08, 2022, 09:53:06 AM »
Brad, have you had experience with netafim supernet?  I am rocking the Netafim supernet Purple SRD which have a 6 foot radius and flow at 5.3GPH, but can be modified to a 9 foot radius by breaking off the deflector.  Pretty happy with them so far, minus the experience of ordering them haha.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rate My (Preliminary) Drip Irrigation Layout
« on: July 06, 2022, 12:35:56 PM »
What I've learned in irrigation classes as well as gleaned from the guys at the irrigation supply stores in my area is to avoid having emitters with different flow rates on the same line.  Ultimately it won't necessarily do anything bad, it just means you will have to take into account the different flow rates and length of time for watering for the different emitters. 

Also, it's nice to have the system connect back to itself instead of dead ending. It helps to equalize pressure throughout the system.

Are these on different zones or are you planning on having it be one zone overall?

Getting everything on irrigation is such a game changer! Regular consistent watering has definitely brought so much amazing growth with all my in ground plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria lucuma at Fullerton Arboretum (Photos)
« on: July 06, 2022, 12:32:43 PM »
The struggle is real! I'm starting to wonder if the moist type is a myth! haha.  I have heard that there are some people in Southern California that have a moist type, but connecting with them seems to be difficult.  Thanks for the reports on all the phenotypes that you have, love hearing about others experiences with this species.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Big Sale & New Rare Plants at Wildlands Farm and Nursery
« on: July 06, 2022, 09:40:25 AM »
Updated listings and big sale going on at the online nursery! Thanks for the support everyone!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 04, 2022, 04:01:15 PM »
Quote from: palingkecil on July 04, 2022, 03:21:04 PM
Does anyone in the Bay area know about this partnership yang-mei grower?
Seems like they have varieties that are not originally from China?
http://calmei-yangmei.com/grow-with-us/

I'm pretty sure they've just renamed those varieties for the market here

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Davidson Plum in Florida
« on: July 04, 2022, 10:18:57 AM »
I am growing both D pruriens and D jerseyana in santa cruz California. D. Jerseyana has no problem in my climate. I haven't grown d. Pruriens outdoors here yet but I'm optimistic it will do well.

I sell seedlings of both on my website, d jerseyana is not in season right now though

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Battle against whiteflies
« on: July 01, 2022, 09:42:01 AM »
I move my plants with white fly outdoors from my hoop house and that seems to resolve my issue most of the time.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 30, 2022, 11:47:21 PM »
Yeah I'm honestly not sure. It seems like it's just such a hardwood species with thin cambium that it's just going to lend itself to be difficult to graft.  Would love to hear other's thoughts and experiences on the matter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 30, 2022, 11:05:57 PM »
Probably around 40-50% takes.

I had one that took but after I unwrapped it and went to plant it a couple days later it snapped off the union. It had only healed in one small section, about a mm or two.  They certainly are difficult to graft.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 30, 2022, 10:07:45 PM »
A couple updates on my in ground plants:
Seedling full sun

Seedling in shade cage


The grafted squad from the last shipment:
On Myrica californica, grafted by myself
Don't remember which is which, but I succesfully grafted: Biqi, Dongkui, Crystal, WuSu




From Beicadad shipment:
Biqi on rootstock from China


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Proper plant packaging to endure the abuse and delays
« on: June 29, 2022, 07:34:37 PM »
Quote from: Epicatt2 on June 29, 2022, 07:03:52 PM
I always encourage the plant vendors I buy live plants from to send these live items via FedEx or UPS.

USPS will not guarantee that plants sent via them will arrive safely and, in my experience, this has proved true about 30% of the time.  Even USPS's 2nd day priority often has arrived to me after more than five days.  Or the parcels frequently arrive feeling very warm to the touch!  And this problem of warm parcels can be significant, especially due to the very high temperatures we experience here in Florida during the summertime months, what with a parcel often sitting in a USPS mailtruck for upwards of six to eight hours before being delivered to me!

I try to convey this USPS situation to plant vendors and ask that they ship to me using UPS- or FedEx 2nd Day.  With the two of these latter the 2nd day option has always gotten plants to me safely and quickly and seldom do I accept a parcel from either of them which feels warm. 

A few vendors seem to be reluctant to use anything other than USPS saying that it costs too much to ship via UPS or FedEx.  And that's even though I am willling to pay extra for more prompt delivery so that I can count on receiving plants –especially very rare ones– in healthy, undamaged condition.  Even so, some sellers seem loathe to take advantage of these two safe & more prompt shipping methods.

OK – End of rant!  Thanx for reading all the way though this.

Best Regards,

Paul M.
Tampa, FL

UPS is often cheaper for me actually. I just know that sometimes people's addresses require delivery by certain services. I would probably prefer to use UPS and have a bit, but don't have enough experience to say I understand exactly what goes on over there.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Proper plant packaging to endure the abuse and delays
« on: June 29, 2022, 04:29:55 PM »
great packaging! Surprised it survived all that abuse, haha. 

I buy my boxes from ULine because they are much more rigid and less susceptible to the USPS abuse.  Definitely end up paying more in shipping, but it seems to be worth it for the added strength and protection

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria torta cold tolerance?
« on: June 28, 2022, 11:46:32 AM »
I'm in the same area as bush2beach. Had mine in hoop houses ND they just refused to grow and ultimately just all died after years of being tortured

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buying from the seedhunters website
« on: June 28, 2022, 11:09:13 AM »
I've had questionable experiences with seedshunter. I ordered seeds and was promised they would be sent and then promised again when they still hadn't been sent. And then told the seeds I wanted were no longer in stock and he could compensate by sending other seeds. I appreciate the resolution but I think that if you one is charging so much for seeds the service should be there to cater to those demanded prices. 
Ultimately it took me posting on his facebook page to really actually get a response, and then my comment was deleted and he messaged me.  I know of other people that have struggled to have the best experiences with Sellami.

Respect for what Sellami does, I just think that it's poor business practices.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 5g plants for pick up, SF Bay Area/Santa Cruz
« on: June 27, 2022, 08:52:20 PM »
Quote from: Epiphyte on June 27, 2022, 07:03:06 PM
Quote from: nattyfroootz on June 25, 2022, 07:04:41 PM
Sweet! I believe they are.  I think the Santa Barbara tree that these originated from is a solitary tree

Did you happen to ever try the fruit at the optimal time?

Yes, I've tried it unripe and ripe. I prefer it unripe as it's a little more crunchy green apple flavor and much less garlicy

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 5g plants for pick up, SF Bay Area/Santa Cruz
« on: June 27, 2022, 08:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Chato9b on June 27, 2022, 01:55:32 PM
Nice choices Iam interested in your Eugenia selloi pitangatuba that’s flowering

Groovy, let me know when youd like to come by!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 5g plants for pick up, SF Bay Area/Santa Cruz
« on: June 25, 2022, 07:04:41 PM »
Sweet! I believe they are.  I think the Santa Barbara tree that these originated from is a solitary tree

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 5g plants for pick up, SF Bay Area/Santa Cruz
« on: June 24, 2022, 08:02:41 PM »
Quote from: pop_kun on June 24, 2022, 06:25:25 PM
Hey Nate!

Id be down for:

Eugenia myrcianthes
Syzygium jambos
Eugenia florida (if you have more than 1)

I might also be interested in the 5G guabiju too, but would wanna see a pic cuz i have the other two from you.

I need to post some pics from the other plants of yours i got. Babaco's are taking off and fruiting :D

:D
Sweet!
I planted out one of the E. myrcianthes las tfall and it has grown exponentially since planting, they are really ready to go.
I don't have any more E. florida but my tree is flowering and I should have a lot of 4" available this fall.
Just posted up pics of my Guabijus!

Awesome to hear! Sounds like you'll be getting tons of Babaco in the spring!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 5g plants for pick up, SF Bay Area/Santa Cruz
« on: June 24, 2022, 03:29:14 PM »
Quote from: K-Rimes on June 24, 2022, 01:13:32 PM
Can I claim the Florida?
All you! It's a seedling from my fruiting plant. Those cali genetics  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Eugenia pyriformis "sweet" seeds/seedlings
« on: June 24, 2022, 12:56:47 PM »
I have seedlings on my website of a supposedly sweet variety. Brinco de princess. Going off the word of the seller, but hopefully that is the case. I'm growing about 5 or so different phenotypes, and getting lots of flowers on my first imports. I'll be able to provide more info in the future.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / 5g plants for pick up, SF Bay Area/Santa Cruz
« on: June 24, 2022, 08:48:13 AM »
How's it going everyone? I have a bunch of 5g plants ready to get planted out in peoples yards (or potted up if you are into that sort of thing). They are too big to ship and I would be stoked to let them go to people in the area for a pretty great price! I'll post up more as I see what's good to go at the orchard. Will Update with pictures. If theres a large enough group in the bay area that wants to arrange to meet in the bay area, I could make that happen.

Myrcianthes pungens, 5g, 50$

Eugenia myrcianthes, 5g, 50$
Eugenia selloi (flowering), 5g, 100$

Syzygium jambos, 5g, 50$
Eugenia uniflora, 5g, 50$
Eugenia florida, 5g, 150$
Campomanesia hirsuta, 300$
Grafted Yangmei (From china, has Root Knot Nematode from shipper in China)
1g Biqi, 300$


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling my yangmei trees (myrica rubra)
« on: June 20, 2022, 11:09:15 PM »
I was at the office when the plants were released. They released them despite having RKN because they were species that are currently commonly found throughout the US.  But yeah, your trees do look amazing!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Green Sapote Seeds and/or trees/seedlings
« on: June 16, 2022, 06:44:45 PM »
I have planted about 20 greens and a grafted green on green, they loveeee it at my orchard (Zone 9b, Santa Cruz).  I planted a small 1g seedling in the ground before winter and it had no issues.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 13, 2022, 09:06:10 PM »
Ended up unwrapping the grafts on those plants posted earlier.  The ones that were suffering ultimately kicked the bucket and it seems like they just didn't really heal at all.  Pretty wild! The other two have super beautiful callouses and look like they should hold.  I have had a lot of grafts that were less vigorous fail recently as well. It seems like the M. californica rootstock would even die under the graft (about an inch of death) which ultimately may have resulted in the failure of the graft. 

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