The Tropical Fruit Forum

i use an essential oil blend.
i also keep lots of flowering plants nearby.
my Myers lemon +other citrus get hit by leaf miners regularly.
chemicals do nothing at all.
essential oil works to disrupt the cycle, but you have to spray it on every few days.
especially if it rains.

ever since i planted a few milkweed plants
the aphids have attacked the milkweed
and left my other plants alone.
also i see lots of ladybugs and other predators around.

i have a few seedlings which i have never identified.
any help appreciated.

plant 1




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plant 2





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plant 3

im not familiar with Dolores , and only vaguely with Jalisco .

is Dolores red, and how is taste and production ?

ive looked all over for Jalisco a couple of years ago and cant find it...
at least from any place that will ship.

can you ship to New Orleans ??

roblack
when does your Indian Juju fruit mature ?
i have flowers on mine now, but winter is coming.
i am in zone 9b so, i dont know if the fruit will hold and/or ripen.

achetadomestica
if you have any extra seeds let me know
(i can purchase)

if i ever do grow a tree, i would probably send seeds in for testing first.
this way also, i can propagate cuttings to trade etc.
it would be nice if rare-fruiters had more than 1 source.

or, if anyone has cuttings i would be interested.

the newer growth has some red in it, usually (from my experience only)
this means iron is OK.
the larger-older leaves darken mainly with magnesium.
it doesnt look "deficient" to me, but i would guess that if you added some mag
the leaves might get a bit darker-green.

another possibility is PH, they like somewhat acid soils.
if you could use some woody mulch or pine needles as mulch it may help.
Epsom is magnesium sulfate, and may help with both problems. (if the PH is high)

you can buy the stuff by the pound fairly cheap
its been big business for a few years now
lots of $ involved and groups trying tpo prevent a ban
so, i dont think it will get banned IMO.
it works on the opiod receptors, but, not the Mu-opiod receptors
(those are the ones like in heroine, which get you high/hooked)
so, its good for coming off of opiates
it wont get you "stoned" per se, but, is effective at pain management
it has several other benefits as well.

there is a good TV show (series) called "Hamiltons Pharmacopia"
Hamilton is a chemist with a passion for mind altering substances.

he did a show on how Kratom is made, where it comes from etc...
very interesting...
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=Hamilton's+Pharmacopeia+kratom



i had a plant a few years ago, and yes, with lots of sun and water, it can grow like a weed.
it was about 5ft tall and wide when a freeze took it out.
i should have tried to bring it back from the roots, but i forgot about it
and it dried up.

there are side effects listed, but, i havent felt any
but then, i have not taken it in large doses.

1 teaspoon for me (2-4 grams or so?) is enough, and you can buy a KG (2.2lb) for $80 and up.

Mitragyna speciosa korth

Some people take it for managing chronic pain,
 for treating opioid withdrawal symptoms...
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Mitragyna_speciosa

Quote from: achetadomestica on August 03, 2018, 06:53:29 PM

In the past when I have had multiple cuttings I tried
a couple different ways like rooting hormone, honey, and nothing.
I have also cut the bottom out of 2 liter plastic bottles and covered the cutting
to create more humidity. I never had more success using rooting hormone?

The good news is most mulberries root very easy.
I usually leave one small leaf or a half leaf. Allot of times the mulberry
puts out flowers when you are rooting it and it ends up with a couple
small fruit. I snip them off so the cutting concentrates on rooting not fruiting.
It's amazing how fast the roots come out of the bottom of the pot when they take.

Thanks.  I have a newish himalayan mulberry tree that was grafted.  Not sure why it was grafted if they are so easy to propgate via cuttings?

grafting is better if the graft union is good.
mulberry can get quite large, and having it on seed-grown would have a taproot
and better rooting all together i imagine....

my Pakistani is grafted, and its quite strong, and vigorous.
not sure what they used as rootstock,
but red and white both grow here (South Louisiana) like weeds.

The stuff I've had the best luck with so far are sub-tropicals and tropicals from non equatorial areas, including:
pomegranates
figs
strawberry and lemon guava
natal plums
eugenias
citrus

fig and POM indoors ?
do you have a small star to produce light ?

most ive talked to in the fig forum
had told me any fig they grew in shade had very low production.
ive been under the impression POM was the same way also... is it not ?

one trick i do use for any plant that is in shade a lot
is extra iron and magnesium
they darken the leaves allowing it to photosynthesize with less light.
my Feijoa 's leaves got much darker, and the plant looked a lot healthier.
its also helped, mulberry, katuk, citrus, persimmon... and fig too.

Quote from: beefyboy on July 20, 2018, 02:38:50 PM

And for God sakes, do not forget the Smith for that beats out most everything in the taste dept. and in Louisiana is loved by most. A true heirloom fig!

Smith in LA (high humidity) = great

Smith in AZ (low humidity) = poor producer.

Some figs like Smith are well-adapated to high humidity. Some figs like a Mediterranean climite, low humidity.

I have a several year old Smith tree. Smith in my environment produces excellent figs about 25% of the time. The other 75% of the figs are either bland / tasteless (cardboard) or completely dried out around the ostiole.

thanks, i will have to try and find a Smith.
i have 3 un-named, or mis-named. (one might be Smith)
1 is excellent. lots of fruit, taste great, no idea what it is.

i have a Black Mission, and i think its too humid for it.
it grows OK, but produces little.


this is the un-named, excellent fruit.
it gets larger and dark just before ripening.

im curious as well
i just got seeds from trade winds for  jangomans and inermis (luvi-luvi).
does anyone know how cold-hardy they are ??

i have 2 what i think are Governor plums.
on one, the leaves are much broader
the one with the smaller leaves is flowering, and growing faster as well
i put the large-leaf one in ground recently.

actually...

 Few folks know the blossoms of the Magnolia grandiflora are edible, however their flavor is intense and they taste similar to how they smell. They are not eaten raw per se. They are pickled. Oddly the practice started in England and you only use the petals, not the entire blossom. What works best is to pickle the petals in a sweet/sour pickle recipe. Then take out one petal, dice it, and use it sparingly as a flavoring in salads. The flavor is strong so go easy. Also, M. grandiflora‘s leaf can be used just as Magnolia virginiana‘s can as a bay leaf, that is to flavor soups and the like. However, don’t use the entire leaf because it is way too big. Cut it into smaller pieces when used like a bay leaf.

http://www.eattheweeds.com/edible-flowers-part-six/