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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mamey Sapote graft
« on: March 24, 2012, 08:57:33 PM »
I would like to know, from the Mamey experts, what time of year is a good time to graft a Mamey Sapote and what type of graft should I  do? I want to graft a seedling with my maganha.Here is a pic of a branch from my maganha can we graft this??

Thanks in advance
JF






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dear Sapodilla Wizards
« on: March 22, 2012, 05:54:59 PM »
HAHAHAHAH That is so true. Our neighbor has a big seedling sapodilla whose fruits are like little sand bags. I love those things! The neighbor refuses to eat them, so that leaves big sapodilla bounty for Jeff and the wife :-). I've always been a fan of the pears with stone cells too.

I rank grit in sapodillas with mealy texture in  apples.  Neither is desirebale in my book. But hey....if grit does it for you or at least doesn't provide a turn off....you are going to be a lot happpier person in the world of sapodillas!

Harry
gritty,sandy,grainy, with a reddish tone, whatever....that's the kind of texture I prefer. I like the thin skin, potate shape, ones also but they tend too sweet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Update
« on: March 21, 2012, 08:20:41 PM »
Hello Friends,

Here are some current pictures of My Mango Trees. I have an Alphonso, Pickering, Coconut Cream, Lemon Zest, and Pina Colada.  They are in a various stages of Flowering and/or Fruiting.

Pina Colada Mango Tree - Is Flowering Heavily but no Fruit Yet






Coconut Cream Mango Tree - Had Flowered Profusely but I removed them all. I just pulled it out of the Greenhouse and it got a Little Sun Burned.


Lemon Zest - Flowering and a Small Mango




Alphonso Mango - Flowering and Lots of Little Mangos

Jacob your mangos look fabulous! Base on what I saw in Mimosa, your Alfonso has a great chance of holding some fruits. I tried the Alfonso in Mimosa and they were absolutely delicious. The fruits are on the small size about the size of a Carrie. From what I was told, Pinha Colada are also small fruits. I'll have to wait until Aug. for mangos I won't let any mangos fruit in containers anymore. Any of those going on the ground this year?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango in central Italy: an experiment.
« on: March 20, 2012, 10:29:25 PM »
Paisan, I'm shocked  and glad that your mango has survive your cold winter. that's like a mango tree surviving in Chicago in a makeshift greenhouse,BRAVO!!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Custard Apples
« on: March 20, 2012, 10:22:03 PM »
Man, that's a good looking fruit! I don't mind custard apple they are a bit too sweet for me but I can always make champola ;D


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Does anyone have pink fleshed variety of Annoa/cherimoya/atemoya and may be willing to send me some scions for grafting? I can offer my super delicious Cherimoya (sweet, juicy, tart, no graininess) scions in return. Willing to pay for postage.

Please let me know.

Thanks

there is no pink atemoya unless you mean Pinks Mammoths Atemoya and that doesn't have pink flesh. You have to let us know what you have so we don't send you double. No one wants a nameless cherimoya they are a dime a dozen around Socal.

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Joe - is the house still on MLS?  I hope your friend pulls through. 
But on a side note:  I have first dibs btw  ;)   has anyone offered to dig/relocate/replace the sugar apple tree with an ornamental tree that may be more appealing to unbeknownst buyer?


Yes Tim, but you are lucky there are TWO! This is by far the hardiest sugar apple I have come across in Socal. Ong's and Mimosa sell sugar apple trees from Pine Island but they will be the first to admit that they require extra care to grow and serious dedication to fruit. Minh has send many years trying to find a hardy sugar apple, he couldn't believe how vigorous his trees are. He also has 2 grafted mature African Pride atemoyas that are always loaded . He has a mamoncillo and a nispero tree that's 25' and of course his famous Mamey Sapote which I plan to get a cutting to graft on to my seedling. I have not seen his children in a month so I have not been able to ask them about the trees. Cangrejo is still hanging in there I  plan to visit him again this week.


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Yes, identification of potentially cross pollinated cherimoyas is extremely difficult.  Just wanted to see if anyone is familiar with at least one of these babies :-\

Joe:  you've got two strikes on you, buddy  ;D
#3 is definitely not Booth.  The pictures taken with my phone under artificial lights don't really do justice, but in my description you can tell it's not Booth - both on taste & appearance.  If overripe, it'd look exactly like this picture taken by Axel from cloudforest.
#7 is not White.  Several things I noticed from White that aren't present, or at least not as pronounced, on #7 (a)younger Whites have fine brown hair all over the fruit though hardly seen on fully matured fruits (b)White's skin is thicker (c)protuberances on Whites are more pronounced, giving it more of that rugged look especially with its darker skin(#7 is really pale light green & thin).  Depending on how ripe White is, its inside looks an almost perfect shade of white.  As far as taste, #7 is a bit more acidic as well. 

Here's the typical look of a White


Sorry Tim I meant #2 not #3 and here is a pic of a White I did not find it acidic at all,

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Thanx Greg and JF, I am currently looking at a 6 X 8 greenhouse. Hopefully I will have by the time I get the scions from you JF.

You gotta get your rootstock, Are you doing multi-grafts on you other cherimoyas? I have the sugar apple , booth and pierce.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: An Abiu Story
« on: March 19, 2012, 12:15:43 AM »
The ones I grow here in Florida taste like a coconut-vanilla honeydew melon. I have done tastings at local Slow Food events and people love them and ask where to buy them. They are really delicious and I could sell every fruit that I grow. I usually eat 3 or 4 every day when they are in season. They are best eaten in a day or 2 after picking. To be truthful, I am not sure if they would fruit in S-CALIF unless they are in greenhouse conditions. They are fairly cold hardy and did very well in our 33 degree cold in 2009 but we have much more humidity that you would even in December.  They also produce 2 crops per year. 

       


Thanks Noel
your description sounds great....that's a fruit I would love to eat.

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What a feast!!

The problem in identifying chirimoya cultivars is that the size and shape of the fruit can vary a lot depending from different factors, for example pollination. Because I do not pollinate my Fino de Jete trees, the fruit comes in all kind of shapes..

Felipe is right. They come in all shape and sizes # 3 with smooth skin looks like a booth and the #7 a White maybe??

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Hopefully you will share the tricks.

007, all you need is an improvised greenhouse or a flowerhouse and one of those cheap heaters and your grafts will hit in 2 to 3 days.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: China
« on: March 18, 2012, 11:48:06 PM »
Nice photos. And well protected fruits in their socks. Probably almost all those fruits are from Thailand, except for chempedak probably from Malaysia. Citrus and kiwis may be from China. I see now turning monitor upside down that mangos say Thailand on them.
Oscar

Good eye Oscar. I was wondering where those mangos came from. They weren't cheap. The large one was $10. Do you know what tropicals they grow in Hong Kong?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: March 18, 2012, 11:31:19 PM »
Mango is king of fruits, but cherimoya is queen.  Florida's got California beat on mangos, but they've got their cherimoyas, which we can't grow.  Someday there will be a really great, world-class atemoya!  (I'm hoping. ;D)

Eating some great cherimoyas grown right here in Hawaii. Just as good as the California ones, only difference is that here they are about 1/2 the price! ;D  Don't understand why they can't be grown in Florida?
Oscar

You must pay a $1.00 a pound than. They were $1.99 a pound two weeks ago in Super King's Market and I've seen them for $3.00 a pound in Farmers Market all around the Southland....

Are those the regular prices, or just on special prices? Cherimoyas were $5 a pound in California when i lived there 25 years ago!
Oscar

$1.99 are sale prices. Their regular price is $3.99 but they are probably $5.00 a pound in place like wholefoods, gelson , bristol farm gourmet markets.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / China
« on: March 18, 2012, 11:23:45 PM »
My son just got back from China this week and had some very tasty mangosteen and other fruits there. Here are some pics of fruit stands from shanghai or hong kong.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: March 18, 2012, 11:11:58 PM »
Potato LeafHoppers when it's dry, fungi when it's wet.  Do you have potato leafhoppers on your cherimoyas in Hawai'i and California?

No, no hoppers just aphids.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: March 18, 2012, 11:09:42 PM »
Mango is king of fruits, but cherimoya is queen.  Florida's got California beat on mangos, but they've got their cherimoyas, which we can't grow.  Someday there will be a really great, world-class atemoya!  (I'm hoping. ;D)

Eating some great cherimoyas grown right here in Hawaii. Just as good as the California ones, only difference is that here they are about 1/2 the price! ;D  Don't understand why they can't be grown in Florida?
Oscar

You must pay a $1.00 a pound than. They were $1.99 a pound two weeks ago in Super King's Market and I've seen them for $3.00 a pound in Farmers Market all around the Southland....



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: March 17, 2012, 12:48:51 AM »
Also, the San Diego Local Chapter is hosting a Cherimoyas Varieties, Tasting and Grafting event on Wednesday, March 28. Of course, you must be a CRFG national member and you probably have to pay local fees or came as someone's guess. Here is the web page:
http://www.crfgsandiego.org/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: March 17, 2012, 12:37:18 AM »
The results of the Cherimoya Taste-Testing competition were announce last night at the Orange County Local CRFG's meeting. The winners were.: El Bumpo, Fino D' Jete, Deliciosa, Big Siter and Lucida. Here is a related article you might enjoy:

http://ceriverside.ucdavis.edu/?blogpost=6904&blogasset=41726

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Greg, very nice.



Greg has done a terrific job he has shown me a few tricks which I hope will help Cangrejo's Anon take.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: An Abiu Story
« on: March 17, 2012, 12:12:37 AM »
About 3 years ago I planted a seedling from one my large fruiting Abius and last week I realized that it is now flowering! It's only about 7 feet tall but is still a small tree (see foto). The "father tree" where I got the seed for this one was named the "Jeff Abiu" and also happens to be a seedling that I bought at the Fruit & Spice Pk and also fruited in 4 years. The quality of the fruits is very good although they contain 2 seeds. My large Marisa Abiu produces delicious large fruits with only one seed. I doubt that this "newbie" will set fruit the first year but I will keep my fingers crossed. The last foto shows "Jeff" & "Marisa" fruits from last summer.  I think this gives lots of hope to those of you with potted Abius.               













that's a beautiful looking tree Noel!
 
Can you describe the taste of Abius and can they be fruited in Southern California?

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: La Habra March update
« on: March 17, 2012, 12:07:38 AM »
Joe, all your plants look amazingly healthy.  I hope my plants look as good as yours when they get a little larger.  What varieties of Lychee, Longan and Cherimoya are you currently growing?  You are like the Harry of SoCal.  Please let me know if you ever have a fruit tasting! 8)

Simon

How are you Simon,

Thanks for your complements. My Lychee is a Sweetheart and it's pushing something - I don't know if it's new growth or flowers. The Longan is a Kohala seedling and my cherimoyas are Pierce and Booth. I will be grafting Big Sister, Saber, Selma, El Bumpo, Fino D' Jete, Elixer(Eunice Messner cultivar)  , and a few more that I can't remember, onto my my Pierce and Booth. I expect to have 6 or 7 cultivars on each tree. I'm far from King Harry he has a Hacienda in Davis FL....I have a mango patch in La Habra CA LOL

JF

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Joe, here is a picture of the sugar apple and African Pride grafts I made with the wood you gave me.  Thanks again..  Greg

Cangrejo's Sugar Apple

African Pride


Outstanding!! I'm going to let you graft a few more annonas for me...you got this s***down packed!

JF

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JF,

Thanks again for the scion, I have attempted to graft to a cherimoya rootstock using a splice graft. I gave some of the scion also to Rodney, who is going to try grafting as well.

Excellent Nullzy! Greg, from Whittier, cleft graft has taken. Everyone else, keep me updated on your progress.... let's keep Cangrejo's sugar apple alive!

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: La Habra March update
« on: March 14, 2012, 06:12:36 PM »
Thanks to y'all for the help.

JF

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