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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does MangoDog still post??
« on: February 25, 2012, 12:44:36 AM »
Thanks Alexi

I got an email from him this morning and he said he posted or was going to post an update of his yard, I wouldn't want to miss that.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does MangoDog still post??
« on: February 25, 2012, 12:39:07 AM »
I have not seen one of his humorous post in a couple weeks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jean Ellen mango size and taste
« on: February 25, 2012, 12:36:34 AM »
http://www.fairchildgarden.org/livingcollections/tropicalfruitprogram/Fairchilds17thAnnualInternationalMangoFestival/internationalmangofestival/

300 g = 0.661 pounds

Not too much information on this mango. Fairchild claims it is 300 grams. That is as small as I have heard a mango described which is good for me because I would have to plant it where it is more vulnerable to theft So my questions are

  • how does it taste?
  • Does it really bear the way Farichild describes--- "there are typically multiple blooms during the year. The season is from April to June in South Florida"
  • what size is the fruit?


Thanks!

Hi Zand
Are you going to purchase this variety?300g is about the size of some of my Manilas and Carrie. Alfonso is also around that size.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: More Custard Apples Parkland FL
« on: February 22, 2012, 11:27:34 PM »
That's a beauty. The satenaya was top notch!

that's a beauty! Is there such thing as a Florida Red Atemoya?

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Additions to My Collection
« on: February 22, 2012, 11:10:00 PM »
jesus is in chino?
Next to Chino in Ontario off the 60 by Euclid.


JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 22, 2012, 11:01:53 PM »
haha I don't whomever developed this variety back in Vietnam will be too happy, especially towards anyone named MINH   ;D
I've seen trees labled as "vietnamese atemoya" for sale many years now but never had much interest until Joe's recents pictures.

Joe, when does Minh plan on trimming the tree again?

Tim

LOL but you are right. I've seen Vietnamese Atemoya being sold for years. I'd never really pay them much attention until I saw Minh's pics. He also leaves a few Atemoya on the tree until late June early July. He said the texture is as smooth as butter with a distinct taste of honey,

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 10-30 Ruby Supreme Guava.
« on: February 22, 2012, 10:52:04 PM »
first off i have an open mind and definately realize that some people like a certain fruit or variety of........that being said i had a guava a couple of years back and the fruit had a really bad aroma (oder)????? i dug it up and was done with it. do these new cultivators have that same attribute? is that quava and its just not for me?

I really think it depends on the guava. I like guava in general but I've had some that were not good. Keep on trying until you find one you like because there are good ones. The ones with the white insides that are meant to be eaten green are pretty good.

here are some good size Asian guavas, next to booth cherimoyas, you might like. you eat these green and they have very little seeds. I juice these I don't like the crunchy guavas.

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Tropical Fruit Online Library / Re: Pouteria book (In Spanish)
« on: February 21, 2012, 08:53:00 PM »
here are 2 good video about the Huertas Magana in Yucantan. Hope to visit it soon.

HUERTAS MAGAŅA- REPORTAJE

Tema de sapotaceae

REPORTAJE MAMEY

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Additions to My Collection
« on: February 21, 2012, 08:15:36 PM »
gtw7983

Wow, that's quite a collection for a newbie! I like to add a word of advice, save you best spot for your LZ, CC and HM. I want to remind you that you live in a very marginal area for mangos. You will need to protect them big time in the winter if you don't want to lose them like my friend Jesus. Jesus and I stated collecting mangos two years ago we each purchase about 4 or 5. he lost EVERY single tree(5) because he was over confidence because of the incredible growth of his trees during the first six months. By Jan. he had lost ALL of them! BTW, he lives in the Norco/Chino/Ontario area.

JF



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 21, 2012, 08:06:25 PM »
Does Minh have a cultivar name for this atemoya? Largest atemoya i've seen was Pink Mammoth, just a bit over 2 1/2 pounds. Not as large, but very high quality, excellent taste and texture.
Oscar

Nope, no name cultivar. According to Minh, in Vietman there are many large unnamed Atemoyas he selected one of them 10 year ago - and not by seeds! the  Pink Mammoth falls short..... the ones posted in this thread are around 3 pounds!

JF

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jf- great pics- is the second pic taken in a greenhouse
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No, they are outside. these folks are next neighbors.

JF

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here is a pic of Minh's sweetheart and his neighbor's Mauritius pushing.
JF



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 20, 2012, 03:30:21 PM »
Harry and Ethan, I'll add you two. Nullzy, I have you and Tim and two other posters on the list. Here is a pic of my little Atemoya. Minh said it might fruit this year if I put it on the ground, now I got to find a spot :(



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 20, 2012, 12:15:35 PM »
Yes, please put me down for scions. Thanks Joe

Ok Tim. I have 4 people down, we'll see how much wood he bring down. at worst, you'll have to wait until my little tree develops.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 19, 2012, 05:40:56 PM »
Very impressive fruit. Don't let this one get away. Make sure that budwood is spread around.

I'll do my best to spread it around......all the way down to Florida.
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JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 18, 2012, 04:19:30 PM »
JF,

Nice job on spotting this beauty, I would love some Atemoya wood if there was extras. Perhaps if you come to Greenscene we could exchange some plants. BTW, did you ever get that mango budwood?

Nullzy

What first caught my attention were the nisperos not the atemoyas but now I'm intrigue by this atemoya and the story behind it. I'll see how much wood he brings to my house. I have two seedlings growing on the northeast side of the house that I'm going to graft. Hopefuly we'll meet up in the greenscene. I usually go there on Sunday though.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 18, 2012, 04:09:57 PM »
To tell you the truth, cold hardiness is far from an exact science.  Micro climatic conditions come into play.  The type of rootstock used can also make a difference.  One thing is certain, the healthier you maintain your trees during the entire year, the better they will survive a cold snap.  You have to take many factors into account when you judge how cold tolerant a tree really is. I grow my most delicate trees in a protected area on the south side of my property. One example of cold hardiness that I found during the cold snap we had in SFLA in 2009 was that my grafted J-31 Jakfruit did much worse than my seedling Jak. My J-31 lost 60% of it's leaves and had branch damage. It's on the protected side of my house, whereas my seedling Dang Suria Jak is in an open section of my yard and suffered zero damage. Before you judge how cold hardy something is, you need to examine all the evidence and over several years.       

Thanks Noel
I'll will put it on the protected side of my house, it's in a 7 gallon now. I've talked to Roger Meyer and Ben Poirier about their experience with Custard Apple both of them said they are too cold sensitive for our climate. Roger showed me his Rollinia that's been on the ground for 3 years and has taken our cold winters with no problem. He said that the Rollinia grows more vigorously than any annona he has ever grown..

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 18, 2012, 03:30:28 PM »
Five to six pounds is unbelieveable for an atemoya.  I am most interested to see what they look like inside and, more importantly, how they taste. JF...get your fruit correspondent hat back on.  This is a new mission assignment....please.  You can't fail us!   I have never seen anything like these!

Harry

I'm all over it, Harry. The taste is not spectacular but I did not eat it after harvest, a few months after. I am beginning to warm up to this Atemoya, the size is impressive! Minh is coming out to my house in two weeks with some budwood to help me graft it on to my chirimoya seedlings and I've already obtain a small tree from him.

Tim-

I've ask Minh permission to pass out his address and he would NOT authorize it.


Rob -

yeap it's paver deck, he has his front and backyard paved. here is how it looks.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 17, 2012, 08:17:26 PM »
I went to check on the Vietnamese  Atemoya in Santa Ana . It turns out that my friend Minh was in Vietnam for a month and when he got back home he discover that a fruit bandits had swiped his largest fruits .However, he still has about ten huge fruits hanging which, according to him, should weigh-in at about 5 or 6 pounds, by April. He showed me a picture of one from last year which was 6 pounds, it was bigger than his wife's head.

JF





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 17, 2012, 07:30:26 PM »
I grew a "Tikal"  A. reticulata amd it easily survived a few 30 degree nights in the early 80s that killed sugar apples and Rollinia. When it gets under 40 degrees, Rollinias drop lots of leaves. Rollinia is far from the cold hardiest. Now I am talking about trees grown outside without any protection, not protected container plants.
I have been growing Annonas for over 20 years and keep records.         

Are you suggesting that A. reticulata is hardier than a sugar apple? How are the A. reticulata propagated in South Florida?


JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 17, 2012, 07:23:14 PM »
They are already being grown in CA.  ;D

-Ethan

I'm sorry Ethan what I meant to say was  a fruiting reticulata. BTW, how is your Red Geneva, has it fruited?

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:41:02 PM »
Of course Squam

I'm just messing with John. For example, my wife made congri and boliche this evening. The only thing missing is a Catalina avocado from Florida. I grew up eating  beans, rice and plantain with slices of Florida avocados in Miami, how could I not love them! Squam, Lula is a great Texas avocado for guacamole but where are you going to find the cilantro and the jalapenhos to prepare it??? ;D

JF

Hopefully in my vegetable beds someday.... pperhaps I'll use something a little hotter than jalalepenos though ;)

What do you mean Texas avocado, Lula came from Florida!  :D
you are right! but the longhorn state made them famous ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:37:19 PM »
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Eventually I will have a plot of land big enough to plant out all those varieties :P. Fresh avocados all year round :).

Nullzy

A lot of those avocados overlap. I have pinkerton, Hass and Shawill these will cover the entire year. I also have two later ones Holiday and Reed  because of their superior quality.

JF

I heard about sharwil and some others being very good at holding fruit on the tree. Currently have a Bacon and a Hass in ground, I am about to harvest the fruit in a few weeks.

Yes, Sharwill is an amazing avocado but so is the Nimlioh, JanBoyce and many others. Did anyone notice the Mexicola inside the Daily 11 in July?? Nullzy, you should come to the green scene this year Julie Fink's and the rest of the orange county CRFG gang will have all of these varieties and much more for sale,

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:30:22 PM »
Of course Squam

I'm just messing with John. For example, my wife made congri and boliche this evening. The only thing missing is a Catalina avocado from Florida. I grew up eating  beans, rice and plantain with slices of Florida avocados in Miami, how could I not love them! Squam, Lula is a great Texas avocado for guacamole but where are you going to find the cilantro and the jalapenhos to prepare it??? ;D

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:47:39 PM »
I have not tasted all of them. but they are very close or better than hass. The two that really stand out are the reed and sharwil lthey are creamier and more buttery than hass....heck, a good fuerte could easily beat a catalina avocado. Overall, I agree with you. California avocados are superior. I would never dare make guacamole with a Florida avocado8)

JF

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