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1951
Only mango I have that is blooming is "Ice Cream" for first time.

1952
I was doing research into controlled bloom techniques, seems you can force bloom on any mango tree, using saltpeter ( potassium nitrate ). you spray this on your tree, and bam 1 week or two later you have blooms.  this does not harm the tree, I do believe you need to allow the tree at least 8 months "rest" , but in theory you could have your mango produce fruit out of season.

Another more unreliable method is to smudge your tree with smoke.

Plantations, that can beat the market get better prices on their fruit.

I have no idea if KNO3 is organic, I eventually will try this someday once I have more mature trees, and probably use the smoke method.
I believe KNO3 is also hard to get now because of the Oklahoma incident and homeland security because you can make explosives with the stuff.

anyone have experience with this?

anyway I mention this here, because I wonder if these trees that have a reputation of producing out of season do so because they are easily stressed and something like a cold front, or small drought  stimulates them into flowering.

1953
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anthracnose Resistance - Mango
« on: February 12, 2012, 01:43:45 AM »
@Gwennin yep I have the same problem in the DR,  we have been getting a lot of rain this winter , almost every day at least a little come down.

My Ice Cream mango has flowered for the first time, and have been spraying with copper every week, but it usually rains within a few hours. I dont have Anthracnose, but seem to have powdery mildew on a few leaves.

1954
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Citrus Tree Smuggling
« on: February 12, 2012, 01:37:26 AM »
Really I do not see the danger in this,   I mean, does Kentucky or wherever have a big citrus industry to protect.   If it was into CA or Texas maybe I could understand that.

Only people I see growing citrus up north would be people using green houses.


1955
I agree with fruitlovers, if its hanging over on my side, I will probably pick it.

Other than that, I would just ask, in the case of them just letting them rot. I would just offer to "do them the favor " hehe.

1956
I believe it has a lot to do with preparation most people would agree that your typical lemon is sour and has a lot of acid. yet there seems to be no problem with popularity. and not many would eat a lemon out of hand.

So lets take Garcinia. xanthochymus, I once tried it fresh and it was very high in acid, and sour as heck.  so I had my wife prepare it the same way she makes "Jugo de Chinola" ( passion fruit juice ) and it was delicious.

Carambola most seedlings are sour, but I have come across nice sweet ones. so getting a grafted sweet variety would be the trick here.

It takes a long time for "new" fruits to become popular, even if they are great tasting, for example the Kiwi, how many decades has it been around before it became a "regular" in the local supermarket?

OK my addition would be Genipa Americana ( jagua, huito ).

There is nothing that taste like jagua, it has a unique flavor.  its almost always used as a drink.

here is the simple recipe.

peel and remove seeds from few jagua fruit.
cut the jagua into slices. place in a pitcher or bottle.
add water and some sugar. cover up and wait.

you can let this steep over night, or a few days.  ( I prefer it strong with slight fermentation ) its almost
like a liqueur.

The plant has medicinal uses, and in South America the unripe fruit is used to make temporary tattoos like Henna, but can last weeks !



1957
As if nursery name changing weren't  enough, even "official" names get changed.

Rollinia deliciosa  = Rollinia mucosa, the first one does sound more appetizing., I really think this should be in the Annona family anyway.

The we have all those that had a family name change from Rhedia to Garcinia.


Anyway, I have seen many garden seed suppliers that do the same thing with the names on some of their veggies.

1958
I may be wrong here, but isn't that the substance where hydroxycitric acid / HCA is extracted from to make diet pills? Garcinia cambogia being very high in the stuff and is extracted commercially from the rind.

1959
I would love some seed, I'll be "State Side" in April, I'll send postage and all that, I hope you have seeds then.

1960
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Birthday Present Ideas for my Tropical Dad
« on: February 04, 2012, 02:04:36 AM »
Lots of stuff you could get,  many good ones mentioned, for example the bananas could be varieties you do not find in a store like manzano,   the Dragon fruit will fit easy in any yard, Miracle fruit is bush like, and another mango like Nam Doc Mai, , Lemon Zest, or Coconut cream.  put in a few Papaya trees.

1961
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Proper Spacing of Fruit Trees
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:05:26 AM »
With some savvy planning you could probably fit a lot of trees together, place trees, in a way that smaller varieties are in front ( facing the sun ) then progressively larger trees to the back,  you want to minimize shading for most trees,  Most Garcinias really need shade for the first few years.

In Mango plantations that use high density technique, mangoes are spaced just 6-8ft apart, and kept under 13ft high.

Another option, I was just thinking about, you could just grow everything in containers, this will allow you to move them around. and adjust the spacing, as some tree will grow faster others slower. plus container growing will dwarf most trees naturally.

1962
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The world's biggest Guanabana?
« on: February 02, 2012, 12:52:59 AM »
@PJ its from Gillagan's own stock of radioactive seeds.

1963
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic Gardening of Tropical Fruit
« on: February 01, 2012, 07:25:04 PM »
Vermicompost is all i use, actually its really the only available organic fertilizer you can easily find here in the D.R. i have brewed up some compost tea with the bubbler technique, plants seem to love that sprayed on them.

the only "chemical" i use is copper for my mangoes,  we have had no "dry season" this year, its been raining almost every day at least a bit.

now that i have my first container mango flowering, i wonder about fertilizer requirements and if vermicompost will be enough,  any suggestion? 

1964
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 01, 2012, 01:15:42 AM »
Citrus articulata  = African Cherry Orange, also known as Omuboro.

I have been trying to get seeds for this tree, its decreasing in numbers because the roots are used like Viagra in Africa.  Tradewind once had seeds available years ago, and has not put them on sale again.


1965
@Floridagreenman  yeah they call sugar apples "annona" here in the D.R. also but the rollinia which is not very well known, is called Candongo locally. I tell people, hey you know Guanabana is also an Anonna, and they just give me a look.

1966
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit and Spice Park, Homestead
« on: January 31, 2012, 02:25:58 PM »
I hope to go visit this April when i get back to the states. I was  there once, long long ago after hurricane Andrew also.

I think it will be great to take pictures of the trees with all the mangoes on them in the spring.

1967
Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Bender's Tropical Grove
« on: January 31, 2012, 12:12:47 PM »
On YouTube, one of the channels I have subscribed to is "growyourgreens"  , Anyway, I was surprised to see his latest video, where he visits Bender's in Fla. here is the vid.

1 Acre Home Orchard in South Florida Yields Over a Thousand of Pounds of Tropical Fruit a Year

1968
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Poll on the CC mango
« on: January 31, 2012, 12:52:37 AM »
This is the reason i made the poll, this season I suspect those that have not tasted the CC will try one if they have a chance, and made the votes, changeable, so you can add what you know so far, and make changes later as more data comes in. we can do this with other mango varieties also.

According to the folks at Excalibur, CC is very productive, the tree looks pretty big also, i believe they told me it was only 5 years old, I maybe someone can correct me on that. if that's the case, looks like it will want to be a big tree.


1969
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Poll on the CC mango
« on: January 30, 2012, 08:03:03 PM »
I have found very little documented information on the Coconut cream mango. so I created this poll, in the hopes that people that are familiar with it can vote in the qualities of this variety.

Note: you can change your vote at anytime, add or subtract.  over time, I believe this will be a better reference for this fruit than similar charts in other places. because it will be from the experts in this forum  :)

1970
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to mail seeds internationally
« on: January 30, 2012, 03:01:33 AM »
Curious, Which seeds you sending to Malta? the climate there is rather cool, with temps similar to that of San Jose. CA.  Malta is the only place I have traveled to outside the New World.   Very little green there, its mostly a big rock in the Med. but I like the people there, and its an interesting culture. tons of history. I went there because of my interest in the ruins, cart ruts etc. 


1971
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangifera Species
« on: January 29, 2012, 01:12:05 AM »
Curious, do any of these cross with regular mango Indica?  also I wonder if you can use them as root stock?

1972
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia lateriflora flowering
« on: January 28, 2012, 08:21:26 PM »
Any Garcinia that finally flowers, is a cause for celebration!! congratz !

1973
@John  Its not so much the variety, its the packing / shipping process,  they pick them way before they are ripe, then the US, requires a special treatment were they dip the mangoes in hot water , then cool water. then they refrigerate them for shipping.  Some mango varieties hold up better under this torture than others, Keitt is becoming more popular for export/import now, because they can be picked green, and still ripen up ok.

Even those lousy mangoes in the stores, from wherever, are probably pretty good, if you were to pick them off the tree ripe in the country they grew in.  in the DR, the varieties i have seen that are used for export are: Keitt ( current favorite replacing others ) Palmer, Tommy Atkins, Haden, and "Banilejo" for the Dominican market up in NY local favorite , a fibrous little mango, very sweet.

1974
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can someone ID these bananas?
« on: January 26, 2012, 09:50:39 PM »
I finally edited and uploaded the footage, of the banana and plantains trees.

Enjoy:

Banana Trees

1975
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Scientific equipment
« on: January 26, 2012, 12:24:04 PM »
@ Oscar
Refractometers are actually going mainstream, even for people without gardens. 
they are being used to measure not only the quality of fruit, but also for the health of the plant, and this goes for non fruit plants also.

for example, herbs could be monitored, and by comparing brix, you pick herbs at their peak.

Simple refractometers, like those 40-50 dollar ones on ebay or amazon should do the trick. they are simple optical devices, all you do is squeeze a bit of liquid on the glass plate, which "bends" the light,  the higher the brix, the more the light bends.  accuracy I believe would depend more on the scale,  I mean if you get one with a 0-50 scale, every little line mark may represent 2 brix. where if you get one close to the range we gardeners will be using which is about  0 - 18 brix range, you will be able to measure fractions of a 1 brix.

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