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Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti-Cancer?)
« on: December 10, 2019, 11:06:30 PM »
I'm going to relate my story, and you can use this information however you will.  In 2015 I went to a dermatologist with a spot on my nose that was initially a pimple but would never heal properly.  It would repeatedly form a scab but never go away and eventually start to bleed a little again.  After about two years like this I made that appointment with the dermatologist, and she did a biopsy to determine that there were basal cancer cells present.  She said I needed surgery and ended up making a long slice down the front of my nose and removing what seemed like a lot of skin tissue.  She didn't do a skin graft, feeling it was unnecessary, but only stitched the two sides together.  I trusted her judgement and expertise, and my nose eventually healed, but I was left with a noticeable scar.
   About a year ago a similar but smaller spot appeared on my forehead above my eyebrow, again never healing properly.  This time before I went off to see the dermatologist, I thought I'd try a little experiment with guanabana leaves. What the heck I have two trees.  I bought a mortar and pestle from BBB.  Then I picked a leaf from my tree and ground it to pulp, adding a little fresh aloe vera for additional moisture.  I applied this material to my forehead, covering the problem spot and fixing it in place with a band-aid, and I left it like that for an hour or two until the pulpy mass dried out.  I repeated this every day for about two weeks.  By the end of the period, the spot had stopped bleeding and began to heal properly.  It's now several weeks later, and it looks almost like normal skin with only very slight redness.
   I will grant you that no biopsy was ever done so I didn't prove conclusively that there were basal cancer cells present.   BUT... I'm glad I tried this experiment and would recommend that anyone with a similar situation and access to guanabana leaves try it out before he goes to see a dermatologist and undergoes surgery.
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Re: Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti Skin Cancer?)
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2019, 01:02:38 AM »
Interesting story and experiment! Wishing you the best of health
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Re: Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti Skin Cancer?)
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2019, 08:45:52 AM »
While experimentation like this is commendable...I honestly don’t think it’s worth the risk when we’re talking about something like cancer. Best case scenario...you save a few hundred dollars and avoid a scar. Worst case scenario...you end up shrinking the visible portion of a potentially deadly cancer, concealing it’s growth while it continues to spread below the skin’s surface. It would likely delay a visit to the dermatologist, and may make obtaining a biopsy more difficult. With early detection being key to successful treatment...you risk both your finances, and your life.


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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2019, 09:03:30 AM »
Isn't it true that anti-cancer drugs have been discovered in nature (trees, plants, etc.) and then simulated in laboratories?  And I wouldn't recommend that someone with melanoma try this approach.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2019, 10:34:35 AM »
The problem is, it can be very difficult to distinguish even a benign growth/spot from a deadly melanoma. (that’s why biopsies are taken.) In my opinion, it would be a much safer and more scientifically sound approach to first biopsy the problem area, get your results, and then proceed with whatever experimental treatment you’ve decided on. (under a doctor’s supervision.) Only then could you be fully aware of the potential risks while also hoping to obtain any evidence on the effectiveness of your experimental compound.

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Re: Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti Skin Cancer?)
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2019, 12:15:30 PM »
I personally know of people who have overcome their cancer (and other medical conditions) through diet (sometimes combined with exercise) vs. others who have submitted to the best medical treatment for their cancer and died within a year.  You obviously represent a strictly medical point of view.  It amuses me to think I needed to go pay a doctor for permission to try guanabana leaves on my face.  My only regret is that I wasn't savvy enough to try guanabana leaves on my nose in 2015 instead of undergoing painful, disfiguring surgery.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2019, 01:44:13 PM »
I too have a 6“ zigzag scar “the flap” down the side of my face from the same skin cancer.  I had no idea what to expect, the wide awake mohs surgery was horror movie worthy.  ‘Do you want to look” don’t.   It’s been 7 years with no recurrence.  Moringa oleifera has been a life saver for me.  Liver spots gone, scaly skin gone, dark scary moles gone, depression gone, weight gain gone, along with numerous other health, gut and brain fixes I attribute 99%  to Moringa.  I take 1/4 cup powder 2x a day in spring water (don’t use purified water ever) and I could not live without it.  Moringa has proven health benefits and is a lifesaver for me.  I do go to the Dr. on a very regular basis thanks to military retirement and lifetime free healthcare. Unfortunately most Dr.’ just try and disguise the problem with a chemical rather than fix it.  Sounds to me a lot like industrial farming.  What you chose to put in your mouth can make you sick or heal you.  It’s not rocket science, Good luck.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5745501/

I grow Moringa but it’s so cheap for Organic Moringa powder on Amazon $5/lb and lasts forever.  Spring water with immersion blender is the key to making it palatable.  All purified water causes numerous health issues, the information is out there but we are responsible for finding it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2019, 02:00:36 PM »
Thanks, Froggie, for the moringa information!
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2019, 08:15:35 PM »
I personally know of people who have overcome their cancer (and other medical conditions) through diet (sometimes combined with exercise) vs. others who have submitted to the best medical treatment for their cancer and died within a year.  You obviously represent a strictly medical point of view.  It amuses me to think I needed to go pay a doctor for permission to try guanabana leaves on my face.  My only regret is that I wasn't savvy enough to try guanabana leaves on my nose in 2015 instead of undergoing painful, disfiguring surgery.
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Re: Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti Skin Cancer?)
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2019, 08:36:15 PM »
I personally know of people who have overcome their cancer (and other medical conditions) through diet (sometimes combined with exercise) vs. others who have submitted to the best medical treatment for their cancer and died within a year.  You obviously represent a strictly medical point of view.  It amuses me to think I needed to go pay a doctor for permission to try guanabana leaves on my face.  My only regret is that I wasn't savvy enough to try guanabana leaves on my nose in 2015 instead of undergoing painful, disfiguring surgery.

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i have many similar observations!!!as we all are plant/fruit lovers , we should keep our minds and eyes open . by simply switching the diet , many things can be overcome and there are many examples out there. wishing you the best !

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2019, 09:45:49 PM »
Having had the same surgery on my hand a few years ago I know how you feel.
My plan is the old "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".
I love being outside working in my garden and with my plants... but being very fair skinned... I don't need the sunlight exposure.
I decided a long time ago I would eschew fashion for protection.
I wear this hat to protect my face, ears, scalp and neck:

3CERA® Outdoor 360 UV protection Sun block hat Folding visor fishing Nylon Cap hiking (milk)


Around $7 on Amazon and worth it!

I also wear long sleeves, long pants, sunglasses and gloves.
This also prevents mosquito bites and nuisance scratches.

Kevin

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2019, 08:59:43 AM »
I agree with you about sun protection, Kevin.  Extremely important for fair-skinned individuals in particular.
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Re: Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti-Cancer?)
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2019, 11:36:10 AM »
The leaves are good for teas too. I believe there were studies done on rodents that displayed anti cancer properties. Just make sure the leaves aren’t sprayed with anything.
Don’t rush, take time and enjoy life and food.

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2019, 12:16:28 PM »
There is an over the counter anti-cancer product called PawPaw Cell Reg made from another annonaceae member, Asimina triloba.


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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2019, 01:43:37 PM »
My Daddy used to gather a lot of Oxalis weeds (a.k.a. Sour-Sorrell), and boil them until they turned into a black paste. This was placed on persistent skin issues, and covered with a bandage for 48 hours or more.  Dead skin would peel off with it.  He then covered the tender red skin with a balm he made from gumdrop plants (parasitic weeds that penetrate tree roots), mixed with petrolatum.  This was in rural Tennessee and Alabama.

I once did this procedure on my nose.  It definitely worked;  however, there was quite a bit of throbbing pain during the last half day.  Dermatologists' Nitrogen gas is so much cooler!
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2019, 06:17:39 AM »
This is a great video for those who are interested in the healing power of food.  Why it’s so important to grow foods that cycle nutrients naturally that are full of bacteria and other microrganisms from healthy soil.  Also chemically grown plants do not produce phytochemicals, phytonutrients are the bioactive component in food which are essential for combating disease (polyphenols, reservetrol, caretinoids, flavonoids...)   It is becoming clearer that our industrial earth #ucking growing methods are making us sick and obese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2aym0TrFfE
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2019, 09:31:19 PM »
Great accounting John who came and visited my plantation three years ago.  You are fairly pale being of  Polish derivation iirc. So be careful w the sun. My Hebraic accounting via  Queens NY/ I put out my arms and they look browner than fake Seminole Indians but I get no casino checks/
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2019, 07:43:19 AM »
Here is some scientific information on Annona muricata:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6019487/

I don't know the specifics, but Annnona montana (Mountain soursop) has leaves which are more highly scented than ordinary soursop and may have different and perhaps far more medicinal properties.

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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2019, 08:31:41 AM »
Chaga / Reishi Tea , MSM & Vitamin  C Powder , Rick Simpson Oil , Black Seed Oil Short list of Gods Pharmacy For Ant Cancer .

My beloved Mother Was Diagnoed With End Stage Liver Cancer last month , She was doing well with the above protocol I have before and after pictures and blood work , She was convinced to try “ Immonotherapy “. She passed just after 3 weeks after the 1st dose of this drug ..

Nature is Gods Pharmacy...
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Re: Healing Power of Guanabana Leaves (Anti-Cancer?)
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2019, 09:02:43 AM »
Great accounting John who came and visited my plantation three years ago.  You are fairly pale being of  Polish derivation iirc. So be careful w the sun. My Hebraic accounting via  Queens NY/ I put out my arms and they look browner than fake Seminole Indians but I get no casino checks/
I'm impressed that you remembered my Polish background!  I only visited you one time.  I'm not a blond, blue-eyed Pole.  I've got a decent amount of pigmentation, but I still should be careful in the sun.  I'm happy to report that the area of concern on my face, which I applied the guanabana leaves to, is looking normal now.  (I'm looking forward to the Carrie mangos you promised me next summer, zands!)
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2019, 09:06:48 AM »
Chaga / Reishi Tea , MSM & Vitamin  C Powder , Rick Simpson Oil , Black Seed Oil Short list of Gods Pharmacy For Ant Cancer .

My beloved Mother Was Diagnoed With End Stage Liver Cancer last month , She was doing well with the above protocol I have before and after pictures and blood work , She was convinced to try “ Immonotherapy “. She passed just after 3 weeks after the 1st dose of this drug ..

Nature is Gods Pharmacy...
Ed
We had a fairly young friend (mid-50's) with stomach cancer in 2013.  He was very interested in trying a natural regimen, but his wife wouldn't hear of it.  She wanted only the best modern medicine could offer.  Surgery and chemotherapy killed him in six months.  Very sorry to hear about your mother, Ed.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2019, 09:16:50 AM »
Re: God's Pharmacy.
When I think about destroying the Amazon rainforest to grow soybeans and raise cattle for a few years until the soil is depleted and the land becomes desert, it's hard to process.
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2019, 09:20:21 AM »
The big picture is , the Parmacidical Industrial complex would like to destroy Gods Pharmacy, so that we’ll have no choice but to ingest Their Synthetic   Carcinogenic  Drugs .

I’m currently Growing Reishi Medicinal Mushrooms To Make. Healing 5 Hour Hot Water Extraction .

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2019, 09:31:05 AM »
And then you've got Bayer/Monsanto trying to take over worldwide seed and agricultural production!
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2019, 10:07:19 AM »
Eating right, exercising, achieving balance in life, getting lucky in the genetic crapshoot, and avoiding toxic crap as much as possible are all probably part of a good regimen to prevent cancer.

Once a person has cancer, it becomes much more complicated.

Nature must have the cures, and the preventatives.

Pharmaceutical companies simply are not interested in natural routes of treatment because they cannot patent them and then make tons of money off of them.

I truly believe most in the medical field are doing the best they can to help and save people. Even the drug companies would jump on the opportunity to cure cancer, as long as they could profit.

What makes the most sense is to push for government funding of research into natural treatments that are not of interest to pharmaceutical companies for the aforementioned reasons. As long as the drug companies are allowed to continue to infiltrate and guide the training of medical professionals and researchers, pharmaceutically based treatments will predominate in medicine.
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