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Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« on: August 19, 2014, 09:29:18 PM »
I spent some time this past spring and summer locating A. Triloba stands in the brush throughout the south eastern quarter of the state of Tennessee. I have become somewhat fascinated with this annona relative and wanted to find and taste this elusive fruit. Being a native of this fine state it is sad to say that I had never heard of this fruit until my exposure to tropical fruits while living in Florida. While it is not a tropical fruit, after tasting these I think they do deserve mention.

May
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August 10
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And a view of the water in the immediate area

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These fruits were very delicious and quite complex in flavor. I can only describe the flavor of the fruits off this particular tree as a cross between mango, peach and some other fruity notes. I could not taste any similarities to banana or any negative after taste.





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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2014, 10:28:54 PM »
Here is some fruit from another area. This stand of trees produces fruit that has a taste similar to apple butter and butter scotch, again a very complex flavor.

The yellow bellied sap suckers have been at work on this tree.

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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2014, 10:44:29 PM »
Good work.  Beautiful photos and good flavor descriptions.

Are you familiar with the Pawpaw Foundation?   And the National Asimina Germplasm Collection at Kentucky State University?

They would probably be interested in hearing from you.
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 11:05:26 PM »
Har, I am not familiar with the Pawpaw Foundation but will look it up. I wanted to visit KSU during my last trip up north but I ended up having such a great time in the woods photographing the trees that I ran out of time! I may visit later in the fall.


Here is a pic of the trunk of the tree in my last post.

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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 11:28:54 PM »
I found this spot in early June on a rainy day. A pair of sharp eyes helps. Can you see the triloba leaves in the first photo?

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And closer..
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Not a lot of trees here but fruit is hanging!
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 11:38:45 PM »
you're rich with varieties of poor man's banana

thanks for bringing me my first PMB to taste...I was uber impressed!

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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2014, 11:53:36 PM »
Your welcome Adam, I wish you could have tasted some of the fruit off the tree in the first post on this thread. Without bias the taste of that particular wild fruit was superior to some of the annona cultivars that I have tasted. That plain green exterior hides some interesting flavors. I will definitely be back to that spot in spring to get some budwood to graft.
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2014, 07:10:58 AM »
Nice photos Bob! Have you been able to try the Wabash Pawpaws to see how they taste compared to the ones you found in the wild?

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 09:56:47 AM »
Hi Ed, no I have not tried the Wabash or any cultivars. If the varieties are any better than some of the wild fruit that I have tasted then I will be thoroughly impressed. So far though I have only tasted the earlier fruit this season and I hope to get my teeth on some of the later season fruits.
 I looked for Wabash while I was in Tn last week, at your recommendation, but could not find any trees for sale. I had to settle for Susquehannah, Shenandoah, NC-1 and two Allegheny. I already have two Mango, Prolific, Hillcrest and Sunflower. Those named varieties are at a property in Tn but have a few years before I can comment on the fruits.
 
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 11:20:17 AM »
We had a few Wabash fruit to sample at our Texas Fruit Club meetings in Austin and Houston last week. We also had some fruit collected from the wild to compare. The Wabash was a favorite all around! It really sparked a lot of interest in growing pawpaws from our group!

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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 01:13:27 PM »
The trees in my garden are all seedlings from an orchard of named varieties, so they are mixed but from cultivars and not wild fruits. They started dropping a couple of weeks ago and at first the fruit was a little weak in flavor. Now I pick a few up every day and place them in the refrigerator for a week or more, until I see dark splotches forming on the skin. They taste fantastic!! a lot of mango flavor, very similar to a high quality cherimoya (not like the ones we buy here at the store in NC). I'm thinking of making room for a few more trees now that I've tasted how good these guys can be.

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 03:12:16 PM »
John, are you planning on going to the NC Pawpaw Festival this weekend?

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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2014, 07:54:47 PM »
I'm going to be hunting for some of the native pawpaws to Orange and Seminole counties....I just read a book that had descriptions of about 8 different species...almost half of them are indigenous to areas less than 1 hr away from my house!  I would love to see some fruits, and taste them..even if they are a bit unpleasant tasting.  I know there is a chance i might like them anyway..or might find a decent tasting variety.
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2014, 08:49:13 PM »
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The trees in my garden are all seedlings from an orchard of named varieties, so they are mixed but from cultivars and not wild fruits. They started dropping a couple of weeks ago and at first the fruit was a little weak in flavor. Now I pick a few up every day and place them in the refrigerator for a week or more, until I see dark splotches forming on the skin. They taste fantastic!! a lot of mango flavor, very similar to a high quality cherimoya (not like the ones we buy here at the store in NC). I'm thinking of making room for a few more trees now that I've tasted how good these guys can be.
When I ate wild pawpaws as a kid I always thought the fruit was rather bland, especially when compared to the local peaches. I did not know anything about storing them in a refrigerator to ripen further.
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2014, 10:28:07 PM »
Congratulations, Bob, a beautiful specimen! Sounds like a great strain, did you plant any seeds?

There is a sapling not far into the forest near me, about three meters tall with several suckers. I cannot locate any parent or sister trees in the woods nearby, unfortunately.

Adam, keep us updated on your plight! The internet is severely lacking in information on these temperate annonaceae. If you manage to locate A. parviflora or reticulate, these are two species I am interested in.

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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 01:51:49 AM »
Yes Patrick, I have planted some seeds of another type that will be rootstocks for the better varieties that I find.

Here are the seeds on May 24


And a pic of the same seeds on August 9


I found these seeds during a rain, they had floated up out of the leaf litter. Even the peeled seed germinated. They seem to be doing well despite my rudimentary set up :)
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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 02:09:26 AM »
Here is another spot where I found an old tree that had given way as the bank receded. Fortunately it is sending new shoots up from the trunk. I will have to check up on this one again in a couple years. The mosquitoes in this area were thick enough to carry off small children!



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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 11:26:24 AM »
WoW Bob, thanks for posting pic's of Paw Paw's in the wild. I grow a few varieties but always wondered how they grow in wild now thanks to you I have a visual in my head. Best of luck growing out your different varieties. Loved also your taste descriptions I find it hard to describe the complex taste of Paw Paw's but they sure are interesting to say the least! 8) 8) 8) 

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 12:59:59 PM »
Qoppa - Nope. I off to Florence SC for the Southern Fruit Fellowship. I'm running a little late so I will most likely miss the Kiwi Farm Tour. I'll be back Sunday mid day. Let me know if you wanna taste some of these pawpaws, they won't last much longer though there are still a few on the tree.

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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 01:44:51 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 02:21:21 PM »
Another area, this small spring fed stream flows down the mountain year round. Apparently trilobas love to be close to water.











Close up of the bark


Trilobas in the upper right hand corner






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Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2014, 05:59:12 PM »
Nice find Bob!
Beautiful photos. Thanks for sharing them. :)

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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2014, 10:06:45 PM »
Thank you GT, I am not done yet. I spent a lot of time in the brush and put a lot of miles on the vehicle, but I am quite satisfied with the results of my search so far. I hope to get back and taste some of the late season fruits.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2014, 10:50:16 PM »
Here is a pic of a fruit cluster on June 4 and the same cluster on August 10, not a lot of difference.



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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 01:37:36 PM »
Great work so far. It's interesting to see the growth and natural habitat in the wild. So keep it coming!  :)

 

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