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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2017, 12:15:21 PM »
Lemon Meringue bloomed twice in my yard this year, sparsely the first time and heavily earlier this month I have about  10 mangoes that are almost ready. Unfortunately, the new blooms got hit by powdery mildew. Never had PM on the tree in previous years. I got more than 200 mangoes last year; I'd be lucky to get about 75 this year.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2017, 01:24:57 PM »
So, I LOVE concord grapes and had 5 amazing vines, each producing about 100 lbs of grapes a year.  I planted the spring of 2001 after buying the house and provided the vines with a vary large trellis, then culled the fruit the first 2 years to allow the vines do their work and grow the main stem and and branches into double T shape, with two branches on each vine about 3 feet off the ground, and then 2 more branches 5 feet off the ground.  Every fall I wacked the hell out of the plant back to that double T shape.  After those first 2 years of culling fruit and working on growing the main vine I ended up with about 25lbs of grapes for each plant, then the production increased by about 25lbs a year until they hit the 100lb mark.

The trunk of the vine ended up being almost 3 inches thick and the T branches were 2 inches thick and produced an abundance of new growth every spring.  Had them in the ground for 15 years before I sold my house and moved down south.  Pisses me off as the new owner of the house pulled them - probably my most prized plantings - without ever tasting those succulent morsels.

Anyway, I was under the impression the vines needed a good freeze and a dormant period to really produce.  If you guys think it'll work down here, damn, i'll give it a shot, but from what i've heard they'll never set fruit without the dormancy.

Thoughts?

Drive up to Georgia.... Go to Ison's and buy the best looking vines called ISON variety. As close to Concord as you will get with muscadines. I have eaten backyard Concord grapes from vines 3" thick similar to yours. This was in Massachusetts not FL.......


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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2017, 08:07:35 PM »
First Lemon Meringue. Mmmmmmm:



Excellent.  I didn't know they could produce even a single fruit this early.  PPK is among the 5 finest mangoes, ever.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2017, 09:30:56 AM »
First Lemon Meringue. Mmmmmmm:



Excellent.  I didn't know they could produce even a single fruit this early.  PPK is among the 5 finest mangoes, ever.

A combination of location and good horticultural practices  :D

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2017, 09:43:59 AM »
How long will your  season be for PPK

Would like to visit when  some other types are ripe also






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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2017, 10:01:34 AM »
How long will your  season be for PPK

Would like to visit when  some other types are ripe also

Not very long unfortunately. Most of my PPK trees are small and the largest ones flowered sparsely.

I'll have a small April/May crop I'll sell by appointment and probably open for regular hours sometime in June when this second primary crop begins.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2017, 06:13:36 PM »
First 'Dwarf Hawaiian', aka 'Tete Nene':




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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2017, 08:04:18 PM »
It's small but pretty.....does dwarf Hawaiian taste good?

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2017, 08:24:08 PM »
I've always been curious. Are the early mangoes east or in loxahatchee? And is there something special about the location that yours always seem to come in weeks if not months before most?

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2017, 09:11:11 PM »
It's small but pretty.....does dwarf Hawaiian taste good?

Yes, I like it quite a bit though it has fiber. It's likely descended from Julie and the flavor bears some resemblance. Has some spice to it.

I've always been curious. Are the early mangoes east or in loxahatchee? And is there something special about the location that yours always seem to come in weeks if not months before most?

These were grown east in West Palm Beach.

Yes, location has a great deal to do with it, with horticultural practices playing a role in addition. Here we are less than 2 miles from the ocean. My relative humidity is considerably lower than those areas further west, and the trees respond very well to the low pH sugar sand soil that exists here. The dryer conditions help stimulate some of the trees to throw early bloom, as early as October/November for some of them. But nighttime lows also don't go as low as the "west of 95" areas, which means that fruit that sets in  December will develop faster and often be ready by spring.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2017, 10:06:14 AM »
Alex
I tried dwarf Hawaiian and thought it was ok but as you mention too much fiber for me. My question are there similar size mango superior toDW??maybe Toledo, Amini etc
Here is my favorite small mango as good as PPK and better than LZ
Caucel aka Mango mandarina
Taste
Similar taste to Duncan but with a pronounced citrus note
 





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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2017, 04:42:10 PM »
Alex
I tried dwarf Hawaiian and thought it was ok but as you mention too much fiber for me. My question are there similar size mango superior toDW??maybe Toledo, Amini etc
Here is my favorite small mango as good as PPK and better than LZ
Caucel aka Mango mandarina
Taste
Similar taste to Duncan but with a pronounced citrus note
 






Do you mean fruit size or tree size?
If you mean fruit size, Toledo is a small fruit but can be every bit as fibrous as Dwarf Hawaiian.
Amini we just recently acquired last year.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2017, 06:11:33 PM »

...as good as PPK and better than LZ







JF You must be kidding.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2017, 12:17:43 AM »

...as good as PPK and better than LZ







JF You must be kidding.

The proof is in the pudding.....maybe you can make a detour when you're  near our neck of the woods.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2017, 10:59:16 AM »
Ate the Dwarf Hawaiian last night. So good! Wonderful aroma, and flavor was Really rich, complex, sweet with some spice character. Fiber in this one was minuscule and not objectionable, I've had Hadens that were worse. First excellent mango of the season.



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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2017, 03:10:19 PM »
harvested the first Glenn yesterday :



Also these early Ah Ping fruit are coming along nicely. I really liked this mango last year. It's originally from Hawaii:


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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2017, 08:13:12 PM »
Here is the first Maha Chanok that fell from my tree, yellow.



The flesh texture is nice and I would describe the flavor as "Diet Mahachanok." It's about 1/5th as sweet as a prime one and the flavors are a kind of faint. The sweet and tart elements are there, the spicy aftertaste is not really. It is a good "warm up" mango - not bad to eat.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2017, 08:46:44 AM »
First Sia Siam and Carabao/Philippine:



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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2017, 10:20:48 AM »
has anyone fruited Amini in Florida OR So Cal? wondering its growth habitat and quality. from writings on it, it appears to be small but excellent mango.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2017, 11:06:46 AM »
has anyone fruited Amini in Florida OR So Cal? wondering its growth habitat and quality. from writings on it, it appears to be small but excellent mango.

The USDA in Miami has an old fruiting Amini.

Our little Amini just got planted and flowered multiple times with good fruit set, so that's at least encouraging.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2017, 01:32:40 PM »
great, looking forward to your analysis of fruits. this Variety is from early 1900's

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2017, 04:52:47 PM »
Alex,

Anything for sale yet?

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2017, 06:24:07 PM »
Alex,

Anything for sale yet?

I've just started to sell some very small quantities by appointment.

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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2017, 06:48:37 PM »
Extrema and some Mario




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Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2017, 08:33:49 PM »
I just harvested some Glenn mango from my freezer (last year's crop)  Yum!  ;-)   Still beats grocery store mangos.  Rosigolds and Spirit of 76 are getting close. 
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