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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question About Tree Paint
« on: July 20, 2021, 12:50:44 AM »
Quote from: Ulfr on July 17, 2021, 04:49:06 PM
Mango grows straight through paint for me on mature branches (only done a few though). I just use cheap watered down latex paint. Is IV organics superior in some way?

As Rob said you only need to paint the top/part facing the sun anyway.

Good to know. I was a bit concerned about the paint forming a tough flexible film that won't allow new growth to push through. Thanks! I was originally planning on buying regular latex paint from the local hardware store, but nowadays, it seems that they can contain ingredients that are harmful based on what I've read. I just didn't want to risk it, so I bought a tree paint that I saw on youtube once a couple of years back and has good ratings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question About Tree Paint
« on: July 20, 2021, 12:45:55 AM »
Quote from: bsbullie on July 16, 2021, 04:58:17 PM
Guess you missed the fact that you shouldn't remove more than 1/3 of the growth at any one trimming?   :o ::) :P

Sorry, can't answer your question about growing and paint.  Maybe dont paint where you want the growth to occur.   Also keep in mind, paint should only really be applied where direct sun exposure would be an issue

Gosh darn it. Whoops.  ;)  Thanks for your input. I'm just going to be painting the part of the exposed branch that faces the sun as you've recommended.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Question About Tree Paint
« on: July 16, 2021, 03:28:12 PM »
Hello fellow tropical fruit enthusiasts. I have severely trimmed half of my coconut cream and lemon zest for top working and I am planning on using IV organics white tree paint. Can the tree sprout new growth through the paint? I would like to make sure that the paint doesn't prevent any new growth from popping out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can someone ID these leaves, Green Sapote or Mamey?
« on: April 12, 2021, 06:12:43 PM »
Those look like mamey sapote leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tropical Fruit Kelp Foliar Spray Schedule
« on: November 14, 2020, 08:32:32 PM »
Hello fellow fruit enthusiasts. It has been a while since I've been here. I had just applied a kelp foliar spray with a bit of fulvic acid mixed into it to my tropical fruit trees. According to the Kelp I bought (Clean Kelp from Bloom City), I should use the product every 4 to 7 days for plants. But for my fruit trees (mango, mamey sapote, sweetsop, sapodilla, bananas) how often should I spray them? 

Thank you for your help  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: December 21, 2019, 11:03:35 AM »
Both of my Carrie trees and Pickering are beginning to bloom. Nothing from the NDM #4, Coconut Cream, Lemon Zest, and Valencia Pride yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Top Work
« on: November 11, 2019, 07:34:47 PM »
Quote from: igrowmangos on November 11, 2019, 02:10:09 PM
TropicalG89 that's some good work there brother congrats! What grafting style did you use?. SimonG that is a possibility I may have to ease up on the nitrogen. If I had to take a guess it would be that I have been pruning the tree for the last 3 years consistently. I held back this and have let it run it's course allowing it to flush and flush. Im going to see if I can get a crop out of it this year (2020). But it is so darn aggressive. When is your last Nitrogen feed for the year done?

Thanks! All of them are wedge/cleft grafts, except for one that was veneer grafted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Top Work
« on: November 10, 2019, 06:10:47 PM »
My Glenn mango has two large main branches. The more horizontal branch was grafted onto in October of 2017 and the more vertical branches was grafted a few weeks ago. I converted the tree from Glenn to Carrie since it is one of my favorite mangoes and Glenn is just too watery and mild for my taste. Try cutting back one of the main branches and graft onto the new growth, then do the same thing to the other main branch and so on.  You can also just cut it back to the main trunk, but it will take a while for new growth to appear and it will cause the tree to loose it's ability to photosynthesize for a while since there will be no more leaves. 












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Truly Tropical Mango Run Coconut Cream
« on: June 11, 2019, 12:29:24 PM »
I always allow my coconut creams to begin ripening on the tree before I harvest them. So far, they have that nice virgin pina colada flavor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla that tastes like mamey
« on: June 04, 2019, 05:28:30 PM »
If someone were to eat the Alano fruits from the tree I am growing in my yard blindfolded, they will say that it is mamey.  A lot of my fruits are close to mamey in flavor and some have been identical.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 MBBS (mango bacterial black spot) Report
« on: June 04, 2019, 12:05:07 PM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 02, 2019, 10:28:24 AM
Yah, and I'm still trying to determine the long term impact in different microclimates. What's weird is that I've had MBBS for several years (since 2011 / 2012 or so?) on a keitt whose entire crop would be lost pretty much every year (it wasn't until around 2017 that I finally figured out what was causing it). Yet, it's still been only a minor issue in my orchard of 30 some mango trees. This year, I've only really seen it on one of my LZ trees, where it's been an issue on less than 10% of the crop. I'm still not sure which of various factors has prevented its wide scale spread across my orchard: fortnightly copper sprays, keeping the trees well fertilized, microclimate factors, lack of rain this year, ...?


Same here. Ever since my LZ began fruiting, a small percentage would get affected by MBBS for the past several years and that's about it.  So far, only a small handful of LZ mangoes have been affected a few weeks back and I removed them. The rest of them look nice and I have eaten a couple of delicious fruits off my LZ tree so far recently. No need for me to get rid of it and/or top work it. :) My NDM #4 next to it also had MBBS (soft black spots oozing amber colored sap) affect some fruits. But, most of them were okay. The tree has been top worked to Pickering and I grafted a seedling in my yard to NDM #4.  One Pickering fruit runt got badly infected and the rest look great. A few of my Glenns have gotten infected also, but the majority look good. I always eliminate and properly dispose any mango that has some sort of an active bacterial spot infection.  I don't use any sprays and I still get to enjoy most of the fruits.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 MBBS (mango bacterial black spot) Report
« on: May 13, 2019, 11:23:41 PM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2019, 07:34:34 PM
You sure it's MBBS? I have 3 LZ trees loaded with fruit (hundreds in total), and think I only saw one MBBS infected fruit this year. Last year I had a few dozen.

Quote from: Tropicalgrower89 on May 13, 2019, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2019, 01:57:47 PM
It seems like this has been a low disease pressure year for mangoes here in FL. So far, no MBBS on any of my trees. Crops seem like they're be a little early this year compared to last, which could help in mitigating disease.

Anybody with MBBS yet?

Two fruits of my lemon zest mangoes have advanced MBBS just as it begun to ripen and I eliminated some more that seem to have early symptoms of it. 10 less mangoes so far.  :( There are still plenty though. If it gets bad, I'm just gonna top work it to two new Zill cultivars.

I've seen many pictures of MBBS infected mangoes. It is MBBS. :( I do remember loosing a few LZ fruit to this disease a few seasons ago the last time it held fruit, but most of them were in great shape.  Hopefully, this doesn't continue to spread onto other healthy LZ fruits on the tree. By eliminating the infected fruit like I recently did, hopefully it will increase the chance of having a good healthy LZ crop. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 MBBS (mango bacterial black spot) Report
« on: May 13, 2019, 11:19:40 PM »
Quote from: Squam256 on May 13, 2019, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: Tropicalgrower89 on May 13, 2019, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2019, 01:57:47 PM
It seems like this has been a low disease pressure year for mangoes here in FL. So far, no MBBS on any of my trees. Crops seem like they're be a little early this year compared to last, which could help in mitigating disease.

Anybody with MBBS yet?

Two fruits of my lemon zest mangoes have advanced MBBS just as it begun to ripen and I eliminated some more that seem to have early symptoms of it. 10 less mangoes so far.  :( There are still plenty though. If it gets bad, I'm just gonna top work it to two new Zill cultivars.

Some of our LZ fruit are already getting it as well.

That sucks. So far, my glenn, carrie, coconut cream and pickering mangoes are clean. I wonder what other top tier Zill mangoes are more resistant to this disease.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 MBBS (mango bacterial black spot) Report
« on: May 13, 2019, 06:28:06 PM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2019, 01:57:47 PM
It seems like this has been a low disease pressure year for mangoes here in FL. So far, no MBBS on any of my trees. Crops seem like they're be a little early this year compared to last, which could help in mitigating disease.

Anybody with MBBS yet?

Two fruits of my lemon zest mangoes have advanced MBBS just as it begun to ripen and I eliminated some more that seem to have early symptoms of it. 10 less mangoes so far.  :( There are still plenty though. If it gets bad, I'm just gonna top work it to two new Zill cultivars.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Seedling Discovery (identification)
« on: March 30, 2019, 06:53:07 PM »
Quote from: gozp on March 30, 2019, 06:42:14 PM
Surinam cherry.

Cool! Thanks :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mystery Seedling Discovery (identification)
« on: March 30, 2019, 06:29:17 PM »
Hello fellow tropical fruit enthusiasts. :)

I've just discovered a cool looking seedling that is pretty close to my fence line. I'm wondering if this is a surinam cherry or something else. 






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote Bark Disease?
« on: March 10, 2019, 12:54:21 AM »
Quote from: johnb51 on March 09, 2019, 04:52:52 PM
Maybe if you gave Julian Lara a call, he could advise you.  He probably knows more about mamey sapote than anyone else.

Sounds like a good idea. :) I still have his email address, so I can email him the description and the pictures to get another expert opinion.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote Bark Disease?
« on: March 10, 2019, 12:50:44 AM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 09, 2019, 10:25:02 PM
Grasping at straws here -- any chance it could be sunburn? Heavily pruned trees can sunburn if not provided with shade.

The cuban may beetle literally killed my pace :(. They would defoliate it completely and then devour the newly emerging foliage. (Younger trees can't normally take two complete foliage losses in succession.) That was the only mamey that was close to the property line (neighbors have grass and hence loads of cuban may beetle grubs). All the others, which are away from the prop line, are doing great.

I think my "pantin" is actually a viejo, which as it turns out is an absolutely awesome mamey -- small-statured, strong bearer, very precocious, and quite good. Pantin has an edge in terms of flavor, but as you've pointed out, they are really finicky! I've lost 2 so far, one after a week of heavy rains (in well drained soil no less) and the other due to cuban may beetles. I've talked to others who've expressed the same sentiment about the pace.

If you're having problems with mamey not holding fruit, it's very likely a nutritional issue. Try giving it a good fertilizer with nitrogen. The 8-2-12 that Truly Tropical carries is magic.

Sorry to hear about your Pace tree. Those beetles suck.  >:(
Sunburn does  make sense since these lower branches were once shaded by the main portion of the tree which grew really tall. The original tallest part of the Pantin tree that was fully exposed to the harsh sun had pretty bad scarring. Also, the very top branches of the Viejo have the same isolated bubbling bark spots (facing upwards toward the sun).  I've just looked at online pictures of sun burned fruit trees and the type of damage looks very identical to the damage on my mamey trees.  I have been using Lesco 8-10-10 palm and tropical (home depot is around the corner from my house) for the past year for my mameys and they love it.   I've just made the first application of the year on the last week of February and mixed in a bit of gypsum since I have sandy soil for the first time (a bit of calcium supplement). Another thing I've changed is that I am now spreading fertilizer all the way out to the drip line, so more of the feeder roots will get adequate nutrition from the fertilizer application. I am hoping that my consistent fertilization will sweeten up any new fruits that develop on my Viejo tree, cause the only fruit that it held to maturity split on the tree while it was ripening. I thought it was a total loss, but it softened up nicely in the microwave. The color and pulp texture was excellent, but it had no sweetness. I think the lack of fertilization and organic matter throughout that fruit's life had a negative effect on the taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mamey Sapote Bark Disease?
« on: March 09, 2019, 04:22:35 PM »
Hello fellow tropical fruit enthusiasts. I am having these weird issues with my mamey sapote trees that seems to be affecting the bark and even the small fruits. It seems that the fruits just pop off in clean chunks (no bite or scratch marks anywhere) and I'm also having portions of the bark in some spots bubbling upward and peeling off. Both the pantin and the viejo exhibits this problem. I used to have an 8 year old pace mamey tree that never held fruit until maturity, but I lost a whole crop of grape sized fruits to this weird problem. That tree got the axe treatment since it was very finicky compared to my other mamey trees (used to get much more easily drought stressed).  I wonder if this just some typical random issue or is this some sort of a fungal disease or mineral deficiency. Both trees are growing very vigorously and the leaves look healthy. Here are some pics of the pantin and the last pic is an affected fruit:

















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best mango rootstock for Florida? Is Sabre just as good as Turpentine?
« on: July 11, 2018, 11:29:41 AM »
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 11, 2018, 10:57:38 AM
I've always just used whatever is available. Never had an issue.

By the way, the Carrie mango I got from you is doing well. :-) I think you grafted that one onto a glenn seedling.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get rid of Crab spiders in trees
« on: July 04, 2018, 11:55:49 AM »
Usually, I move crab spiders to where they won't be in the way. I'll use a long stick or wood pole to transfer them to another tree. Funny thing, in locations where I had to knock them down between the house and the fence, they end up building their new web in a higher location at the same spot. One of the crab spiders at my home actually built a web a foot above my height at one of the paths I walk through with the perfect curvature for maximum clearance. It's like they knew my height.. lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ripening Viejo Mamey
« on: May 01, 2018, 11:37:45 AM »
Hello everyone. I have a Viejo mamey that is beginning to mature on the tree. When I lightly scratch the surface on one side of the fruit, the pulp is a orange-red color, but when I scratch the other side of the fruit, it is still green. This was a couple of days ago. How long will it take for the whole fruit to transform and be ready to pick?


Thank you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why are my Lychee leaves yellow?
« on: March 11, 2018, 05:07:44 PM »
Quote from: Johnny Redland on March 11, 2018, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: Tropicalgrower89 on March 10, 2018, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: Johnny Redland on March 09, 2018, 09:28:44 PM
As you can see from my below photo, one of my Sweetheart Lychee trees refuses to green up. At first I thought it was lack of water, but heavy watering hadn’t changed it. Then I thought it may have been nutrient deficient so I fertilized with 8-3-9 with micros. The thing flushed out like crazy but leaves cane out yellow and never changed to dark green. Can’t figure it out. My other Lychee trees are all dark, dark green.


Try doing a soil drench using Sequestrene-138 chelated iron.

Thank you!

You're welcome  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why are my Lychee leaves yellow?
« on: March 10, 2018, 04:20:10 PM »
Quote from: Johnny Redland on March 09, 2018, 09:28:44 PM
As you can see from my below photo, one of my Sweetheart Lychee trees refuses to green up. At first I thought it was lack of water, but heavy watering hadn’t changed it. Then I thought it may have been nutrient deficient so I fertilized with 8-3-9 with micros. The thing flushed out like crazy but leaves cane out yellow and never changed to dark green. Can’t figure it out. My other Lychee trees are all dark, dark green.


Try doing a soil drench using Sequestrene-138 chelated iron.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Time to water?
« on: March 09, 2018, 07:25:30 PM »
Quote from: pineislander on March 09, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
Here are photos of a "Starch" mango tree over 20 years old which toppled in Hurricane Irma. You can see the root system doesn't go very deep, maybe a foot or so. It hasn't had irrigation for many years. I believe this is typical for my area.





This is the soil profile in the area. Six inches gray sandy topsoil, 1 ft of white sand, and at around 18" dark brown subsoil marking the summer normal water table.



This soil is in an open field, no mulch, hardly any grass. No rain for over a month. Dry as a bone. I am running a 2" irrigation main line for orchard expansion.

Looks like my soil, but the white sand layer is larger in my case. I would say about 3 to 4 feet before I hit the brown sticky layer.

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