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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Ethan on September 14, 2012, 06:22:35 PM
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A few weeks ago I tasted the first fruits from my myrcianthes pungens (guabiju) and I'm happy to say they were quite good. The tree was covered in blooms and only set 2 fruits but considering it was the first time and the tree is only about 3.5' tall, I was happy. The fruits had a tough dark purple skin and golden flesh that separated easily from the skin and moderately well from the seed. There was not a ton of flesh but the flesh was juicy and sweet with a touch of spice, maybe slight nutmeg in the finish? (my taste buds aren't the most delicate) Hopefully as the tree gets bigger the fruits will get a little larger and a lot more of them.
Here is the fruit, sorry for the blur but beautiful DARK purple color.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime229.jpg)
inside
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime230.jpg)
I have my fingers crossed for next year.
-Ethan
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Hi Ethan, that's good to hear, thanks for the report. I have a plant but is still very small, but doing great. It's good to know they fruit so small. I planted mine based on a report from Anestor in Brazil that told me it was one of his favorite fruits. This is a really good fruit for California as it is quite cold tolerant.
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That is double good news, both the cold tolerance and the fact that Ancestor enjoys them so much. I could see eating handfuls of them easily.
-Ethan
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How old is your plant? Please take a photo of the plant if you get a chance. Thanks,
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One time, I identified I guabiju fruit in the Miami area. The fruit is pretty good. However, it is a small fruit and the tree can become quite big if not prunned.
I would use my real estate for a better cost/benefit fruit tree. Guabiju is found in the south and southeast part of Brasil where the climate can get very cold during the Winter.
Just an unrequested/unsolicited opinion!
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Haven't had the pleasure of eating guabiju yet, but given its cold hardiness and periodic sudden blasts of cold in Florida that damage so many plants it's one i would definitely grow if i lived there, just because it's one you wouldn't have to baby. However i think it's even more appropriate in Southern California where winter weather kills so many tropicals.
BTW, this guabiju fruit is also found in northern Argentina and Uruguay, maybe also Paraguay?, not just Brazil. So it can definitely take frost.
I just planted a bunch of Hexachalamus edulis, ubajai, another one originating from similar areas. Also one i haven't tried yet. I noticed there was a tree of it in the Fullerton garden in California, but wasn't fruiting at the time. Have you tried this one Berto? How is it?
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Looks very interesting, would love to try to grow this one.
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ethan,
I was reviewing my hand book for the recently obsessed, and it showed this species as having glabrous leaves...with no fuzz...but the species I have on hand at my experiment station has tomentose leaves.
Which characteristic does your plant exhibit?
thanks in advance.
and congrats on your fruiting
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Yes, I have tried this fruit. I already wrote above about guabiju, "The fruit is pretty good"....
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Yes, I have tried this fruit. I already wrote above about guabiju, "The fruit is pretty good"....
Yes Berto, but i was asking you about another fruit, ubajai, Hexachalamus edulis. Have you ever tasted that one? How about anyobdy else in this forum?
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Oooops, no I have tried ubajai/pessego do mato/ ivai; ibajai (eugenia myrcianthes/hexaclamys edulis).
My understanding is that this eugenia also falls into the category of acidic sweet eugenias like her cousin, eugenia neonitida (pitangatuba).
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Yes, I have tried this fruit. I already wrote above about guabiju, "The fruit is pretty good"....
Yes Berto, but i was asking you about another fruit, ubajai, Hexachalamus edulis. Have you ever tasted that one? How about anyobdy else in this forum?
OK back from Europe , got a lot of catching up to do....
Oscar , I have the Hexaclamys edulis fruiting ( took about 7 years from seed ) I was sooooo disappointed .....has an almost disgusting taste , don't know how they came up with the " edulis "
I'll give it another fruiting season and a few more tasting opinions ....probably will get the axe...too bad good looking fruit though ...
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Thank you gentlemen for your kind words, after seeing pictures of mature trees I realize.....I need to move this thing. ::) I wonder if it airlayers like jabo?
N/Z, mine came from Ben P. if not maybe and airlayer or seedling is in your future?
Adam, mine is smooth leaved (see pic).
I have hexachlamis edulis also, it is pretty hardy for CA. No fruit or blooms yet so you have me hoping for seedling variation Luc, or at least fruit that gets better w/age. Adam, the leaves on this are tomentose and a bit grayish if I remember? I'll try to get a photo.
plant
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime263.jpg)
leaves
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime264.jpg)
cheers,
-Ethan
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thanks for pics and response Ethan
looks like I may have something different.
I will google search the name u suggested...sounds like it could be.
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No problem Adam. I'll still try to get a close up photo of the H. edulis leaves to help w/the IDing.
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Yes, I have tried this fruit. I already wrote above about guabiju, "The fruit is pretty good"....
Yes Berto, but i was asking you about another fruit, ubajai, Hexachalamus edulis. Have you ever tasted that one? How about anyobdy else in this forum?
OK back from Europe , got a lot of catching up to do....
Oscar , I have the Hexaclamys edulis fruiting ( took about 7 years from seed ) I was sooooo disappointed .....has an almost disgusting taste , don't know how they came up with the " edulis "
I'll give it another fruiting season and a few more tasting opinions ....probably will get the axe...too bad good looking fruit though ...
Oh Luc! Disgusting doesn't sound so appetizing. ??? I heard ubajai was a bit sour, but nothing about it being disgusting.
Adam and Ethan yes the H. edulis has fuzzy and sivlery leaves.
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Here you go Adam or anyone else
Hexachlamis edulis leaves
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime277.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime278.jpg)
-Ethan
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Oh Luc! Disgusting doesn't sound so appetizing. I heard ubajai was a bit sour, but nothing about it being disgusting.
Oscar , It has this taste , nothing to do with being sour , that my son and I really didn't like , my son was brought up in Mexico so his taste buds are different ( I think ) We both spit out the fruit....
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where did u source your seeds Ethan?
this looks almost identical to my E. myrcianthes, that I bought as an erroneously labeled E. koltzschiana from Excalibur.
this doesn't look like the plant I have labeled as Myrcianthes pungens.
Now I will have to upload pics of all of my Eugenias and this myrcianthes.
Let me see what I can whip up.
thank again Ethan
Here you go Adam or anyone else
Hexachlamis edulis leaves
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime277.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/red_sea_me/phototime278.jpg)
-Ethan
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Top leaf of Eugenia myrciathnes (mislabeled at plant sale as E. klotzschiana...maybe Hexachlamis edulis ? )
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=37 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=37)
Underside of leaf plant same as above
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=38 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=38)
top leaf, plant labeled as Myrcianthes pungens, but fuzzy?
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=35 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=35)
underside leaf, plant labeled as Myrcianthes pungens, but fuzzy?
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=36 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=36)
Top klotzschiana
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=33 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=33)
underside klotzschiana
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=34 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=34)
new growth klotzschiana
http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=32 (http://fruitingplants.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=32)
let me know if u have trouble viewing these!
thanks.
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Hi Ethan,
Your Guabijú tree looks spectacular 8) Them fruits remind me of a black plum with a caramel flesh...YUMMY ;D Most certainly this fruit is jam packed with antioxidants 8)
Thanks for sharing :)
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Nice Adam, Hexachlamis edulis and Eugenia myrcianthes must be synonyms, I wonder which is the official name?. Your unknown certainly is not M. pungens unless it got the tomacco treatment (a la Simpsons). An interesting puzzle.
Thank you Steven, certainly the smallest black plum I've seen :), but a tasty fruit for sure. I bet the skin has some serious goodness packed inside it, it was rough to eat though.
cheers,
-Ethan
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Nice Adam, Hexachlamis edulis and Eugenia myrcianthes must be synonyms, I wonder which is the official name?. Your unknown certainly is not M. pungens unless it got the tomacco treatment (a la Simpsons). An interesting puzzle.
Thank you Steven, certainly the smallest black plum I've seen :), but a tasty fruit for sure. I bet the skin has some serious goodness packed inside it, it was rough to eat though.
cheers,
-Ethan
Ethan, the accepted name and spelling is Hexachlamys edulis, Eugenia myrcianthes is a synonym, among some other synonyms for that plant. See here:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-99020 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-99020)
BTW, i find this plantlist.org site useful. What it does is combine the taxonomical records of Kew Gardens together with those of Missouri Botanical Gardens (mobot), Between those 2 they have most plants covered.
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Oh Luc! Disgusting doesn't sound so appetizing. I heard ubajai was a bit sour, but nothing about it being disgusting.
Oscar , It has this taste , nothing to do with being sour , that my son and I really didn't like , my son was brought up in Mexico so his taste buds are different ( I think ) We both spit out the fruit....
Luc, you should read this excellent article from Uruguay (in Spanish) before axing the ubajai:
http://www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Ubajai.pdf (http://www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Ubajai.pdf)
It explains that the fruit tastes sweet and agreeable, but that the smell of over ripe fruit can be nauseating or repulsive. So it's possible you just let them get over ripe. Apparently there are some trees also that produce fruits without any smell or less smell. It goes into a lot of detail on how to grow and procees the fruits, including smoothies and cheesecake. Also has lots of good photos.
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Ethan, the accepted name and spelling is Hexachlamys edulis, Eugenia myrcianthes is a synonym, among some other synonyms for that plant. See here:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-99020 (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-99020)
BTW, i find this plantlist.org site useful. What it does is combine the taxonomical records of Kew Gardens together with those of Missouri Botanical Gardens (mobot), Between those 2 they have most plants covered.
Thank you for straightening that out Oscar.
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http://www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Ubajai.pdf (http://www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Ubajai.pdf)
Great article indeed Oscar , thank you for finding and posting this .
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Way to go Ethan...! It does look like a nice fruit tree for cooler climates!
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Thank you FGM, it is not as good as say a Pantin mamey or rollinia of yours but I could easily eat a bowl full especially with a slight chill to them.
-Ethan
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Hey Ethan/Oscar (other Eugenia minded members)
The eugenia I have labeled as Myrcianthes pungens, now is showing it's true colors...it has thorns at the tips of the leaves
Does this feature give away the plants proper botanical name? I'm still at a loss.
Thanks!
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I joined this forum because it has very good information, and I have wanted to work with you helping spread the tropical fruit.
I live in Junín, Buenos Aires, on the same latitude as southern Uruguay, about 600 kilometers east of sites which are grown arazá, Guaviyú, feijoa and pitanga.
The microclimate of my city, frost not think they are less than -3 º C (with my thermometer I measured - 1 º C in August, but the coldest month is July and I had no thermometer), but on the outskirts of the city often down to -7 ° C, ie only the feijoa could be grown in the fields.
But in the gardens of the houses, almost all tropical fruit could be grown.
This year I bought several family Myrtaceae fruit, spring just started here, so we will not see flowers and fruit for another time.
The fruit we have are: Guaviyú, arazá, guava, pitanga (3 varieties), guava (green-pink), setecapotes (Campomanesia guazumifolia) uvaia (Eugenia pyriformis) and tamarillo.
Here's a brief report on our Guaviyú:
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/09/25/guaviyu-eugenia-pungens-video-del-recien-llegado/ (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/09/25/guaviyu-eugenia-pungens-video-del-recien-llegado/)
Cheers
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Welcome to the site Huertasurbanas and nice website you have too, the photo of the 150 year old tree is incredible!
good luck with the new myrtaceae plants,
-Ethan
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Hey Ethan/Oscar (other Eugenia minded members)
The eugenia I have labeled as Myrcianthes pungens, now is showing it's true colors...it has thorns at the tips of the leaves
Does this feature give away the plants proper botanical name? I'm still at a loss.
Thanks!
Hi Adam, i just came across this reference saying there are 4 types of guabiyu, and that one of them, the large black guabiju, has spines on the tips of the leaves. So it's possible your plant is M. pungens after all. The text is in spanish, but i'm sure you can translate it:
Sus cortezas, ojas y fruto verdes machacadas, y bien cocidos, refinan y aferran los tintes de negro, mezclados en las tintas el mejor de todos es el Guabiyú grande negro, el que tiene la oja gruesa con espina en la punta, y de este se deba cojer el fruto para el uso de medicina, y asi mismo la oja, porque és el superior en virtud, aunque á su falta se puede cojer el del añangapiri guazú, que es mata pequeña, que es lo que digo nace en cerros, ó á sus faldas, sobre minas de piedra de cobre.
Su fruta es comestible, y muy amiga de los estomagos flacos, asi la del Guabiyú como la del añangapiri,
http://arbolesdelchaco.blogspot.com.ar/2009_01_01_archive.html (http://arbolesdelchaco.blogspot.com.ar/2009_01_01_archive.html)
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Hi, it would be good to see some photos of the leaves; also, I will have 4 more guabiju in a few days and I will report with video and photos.
My only current Guaviyú has thorns on the tips of the leaves, as you can see in the video:
guaviyu (myrciantes pungens) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AnU8alrHBc#)
By the way, does anyone knows about their hardiness to frosts?
I could not find exact information on the web, some people say that it could be similar to feijoa (even a french woman told me that her feijoa survived to -17º C), but I dont believe it could survive to -11º C as the feijoa. Some people reports that guabiju is frost hardy to -2º C without any damage, but I have no reports about lower temperatures. In Montevideo, Uruguay, you can see guabiyús on public places and I know that sometimes they go below -3º C.
Cheers
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thanks for the excellent information.
I o u one Oscar.
Hey Ethan/Oscar (other Eugenia minded members)
The eugenia I have labeled as Myrcianthes pungens, now is showing it's true colors...it has thorns at the tips of the leaves
Does this feature give away the plants proper botanical name? I'm still at a loss.
Thanks!
Hi Adam, i just came across this reference saying there are 4 types of guabiyu, and that one of them, the large black guabiju, has spines on the tips of the leaves. So it's possible your plant is M. pungens after all. The text is in spanish, but i'm sure you can translate it:
Sus cortezas, ojas y fruto verdes machacadas, y bien cocidos, refinan y aferran los tintes de negro, mezclados en las tintas el mejor de todos es el Guabiyú grande negro, el que tiene la oja gruesa con espina en la punta, y de este se deba cojer el fruto para el uso de medicina, y asi mismo la oja, porque és el superior en virtud, aunque á su falta se puede cojer el del añangapiri guazú, que es mata pequeña, que es lo que digo nace en cerros, ó á sus faldas, sobre minas de piedra de cobre.
Su fruta es comestible, y muy amiga de los estomagos flacos, asi la del Guabiyú como la del añangapiri,
http://arbolesdelchaco.blogspot.com.ar/2009_01_01_archive.html (http://arbolesdelchaco.blogspot.com.ar/2009_01_01_archive.html)
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Hi
Good news: I found some documents that said that guabiju is frost hardy to -10º C (not to snow):
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/09/25/guaviyu-eugenia-pungens-video-del-recien-llegado/ (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/09/25/guaviyu-eugenia-pungens-video-del-recien-llegado/)
"En cuanto al clima para su cultivo creo no tendrán problemas ya que soporta heladas hasta de -10ºC e inviernos rudos (no nieve)" (Fernando Macé)
So, it's true that its hardiness is similar to the acca sellowiana (feijoa, guayabo del país)
Cheers
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I'm curious...who else is growing this one in FL?
A buddy gave me a few seedlings...and I kept 4, and shared about 3...I forget who I gave them to??
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Adam I am growing three, but they are small plants. I got the seeds from a gent in Argentina.
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thorny type??
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Hi Ethan,
Your Guabijú tree looks spectacular 8) Them fruits remind me of a black plum with a caramel flesh...YUMMY ;D Most certainly this fruit is jam packed with antioxidants 8)
Thanks for sharing :)
Certainly, it's packed with a lot of antioxidants, look:
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/10/07/comparativo-nutricional-antioxidantes-en-arandanos-vs-guaviyu-pitanga-araza-guayabo/ (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/10/07/comparativo-nutricional-antioxidantes-en-arandanos-vs-guaviyu-pitanga-araza-guayabo/)
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Yes there are def thorns on the leaf tips
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something funny I noticed about the thorn tips on this plant so far...
They never harden off, and become dangerously sharp.
They are a half assed thorn, that bends upon contact with a callused finger!
My kind of thorns!! they are only bluffing.
Just for looks, not defense I guess?
I'm surprised they don't get sharp, like a holly.
What's the point of growing a thorn?
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something funny I noticed about the thorn tips on this plant so far...
They never harden off, and become dangerously sharp.
They are a half assed thorn, that bends upon contact with a callused finger!
My kind of thorns!! they are only bluffing.
Just for looks, not defense I guess?
I'm surprised they don't get sharp, like a holly.
What's the point of growing a thorn?
Mine don't have any thorny part at all that i can recall. Might be one of those plants that used to have to defend itself from certain marauding animals that no longer exist in it's territory, so has lost the need for thorns.
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Five days later, I went back to try a couple of fruits ( stored in the fridge, I hope this does not undermine the ability of seed germination). I have a few fruits (20) thanks to the kindness of a family living near a Buenos Aires guaviyu tree. This time I did not think the pulp lacked sweetness . I concentrated on tasting the pulp, not so much the shell, while the taste is similar.
I struggled to find a resemblance to something but really could not. There are fruits like pineapple guava (Acca sellowiana) of which you can say that they taste like a mixture of apple and banana, but in the case guaviyu, not meeting comparison and still seems increasingly tasty to me.
Another finding that surprised me is that the fruits that had not yet matured in black (still dark red), are equally tasty.
Here is a photo of the large variability in size (in the case of this tree it gives fruits of between 1.3 mm and 1.9 mm ~):
http://subidaimagen.infojardin.com/subimos/images/bfi1357738350k.jpg (http://subidaimagen.infojardin.com/subimos/images/bfi1357738350k.jpg)
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Five days later, I went back to try a couple of fruits ( stored in the fridge, I hope this does not undermine the ability of seed germination). I have a few fruits (20) thanks to the kindness of a family living near a Buenos Aires guaviyu tree. This time I did not think the pulp lacked sweetness . I concentrated on tasting the pulp, not so much the shell, while the taste is similar.
I struggled to find a resemblance to something but really could not. There are fruits like pineapple guava (Acca sellowiana) of which you can say that they taste like a mixture of apple and banana, but in the case guaviyu, not meeting comparison and still seems increasingly tasty to me.
Another finding that surprised me is that the fruits that had not yet matured in black (still dark red), are equally tasty.
Here is a photo of the large variability in size (in the case of this tree it gives fruits of between 1.3 mm and 1.9 mm ~):
http://subidaimagen.infojardin.com/subimos/images/bfi1357738350k.jpg (http://subidaimagen.infojardin.com/subimos/images/bfi1357738350k.jpg)
Nice photo and thanks for info. I hope on the size of the fruits you mean cm and not mm, or you would have to eat them with a magnifying lens ! ;)
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hehe, that's right Oscar, thanks for the fix. I am so tired, we had a baby 1 month ago... you know!
The guaviyu is something magical to me, there is a short history about it involving Carlos Gardel (maybe it does not means nothing to all of you), I will tell later.
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hehe, that's right Oscar, thanks for the fix. I am so tired, we had a baby 1 month ago... you know!
The guaviyu is something magical to me, there is a short history about it involving Carlos Gardel (maybe it does not means nothing to all of you), I will tell later.
Heard there is a very big old guaviju tree at the Carlos Gardel museum in Monetvideo, Uruguay. Never been there. Would be interested in hearing the story.
PS i love tango!
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One more thing: the "big" ones use to have 2 seeds, so the % of pulp is not better than the small ones, at least in this tree/variety
I hope some of my 5 guaviyús would give us bigger fuits...
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Sure Oscar! The story is that they say that Carlos Gardel composed his first songs below that Guaviyú (and probably under other trees and into a house). And they call him the " Creole Thrush " ("el zorzal criollo") and the thrushes loves the fruits of the Guaviyú, is a love story shared by that landscape, and perhaps for the fruits of that tree. The thrushes are prized for their beautiful singing, like Gardel's tango. So, to me, everything is connected.
I have no evidence that Gardel eat these fruits, but it is likely. It is as if the tree had been the scene inspiring, and thrushes had taught him to sing.
So for me the Guaviyú is a magical, musical tree because these birds are the better singers throughout the region, like Gardel was.
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oh, god, look how bad the pruned it!
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Guaviy%C3%BA-podado-1.jpg (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Guaviy%C3%BA-podado-1.jpg)
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Guaviy%C3%BA-podado-2.jpg (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Guaviy%C3%BA-podado-2.jpg)
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Hola Huertasurbanas,
The tree looks really great...though, with what did they prune the tree with, an axe :o
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Sure Oscar! The story is that they say that Carlos Gardel composed his first songs below that Guaviyú (and probably under other trees and into a house). And they call him the " Creole Thrush " ("el zorzal criollo") and the thrushes loves the fruits of the Guaviyú, is a love story shared by that landscape, and perhaps for the fruits of that tree. The thrushes are prized for their beautiful singing, like Gardel's tango. So, to me, everything is connected.
I have no evidence that Gardel eat these fruits, but it is likely. It is as if the tree had been the scene inspiring, and thrushes had taught him to sing.
So for me the Guaviyú is a magical, musical tree because these birds are the better singers throughout the region, like Gardel was.
Sounds like that would make good lyrics for a tango song! 8)
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Steven, the pair of grandparents who informed me about this tree spoke of a chainsaw, but they really do not know.
what is known is that the tree is on land that belongs to the government of the city of Buenos Aires, and that these things are not handled as before.
Previously, the trees were pruned botanical garden students , now they give the job to anyone with a chainsaw
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looks like one of my oldest trees has decided to flower....about 5ft tall...4yr old.
I'm extremely enthusiastic about this fruit tree....it can handle lots of cold...and it's a really beautiful tree...(a large tree too).
Fruit is supposed to be excellent, and unique tasting.
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That's great Adam! Congratulations! Do you have any pics? ;D
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That's great Adam! Congratulations! Do you have any pics? ;D
thanks Luis!
I was just waiting for the blooms to open, its just barely starting to put out flower buds right now...I will definitely take pics when they're open.
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That's great Adam! Congratulations! Do you have any pics? ;D
thanks Luis!
I was just waiting for the blooms to open, its just barely starting to put out flower buds right now...I will definitely take pics when they're open.
That's great! Thank's! ;)
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pics of one of the trees that is starting to bloom.
(http://s21.postimg.cc/qbrysmwub/IMG_1218.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/qbrysmwub/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/smlfj2i83/IMG_1219.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/smlfj2i83/)
(http://s7.postimg.cc/bgoth1spz/IMG_1220.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bgoth1spz/)
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Congratulations, it's a beautifull tree! Just hope my plants get big fast! ;)
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I got 2 M. pungens in the ground , thorny type , same hight as yours Ethan so I'll be checking for flowers ...seeds from Marco. Congratulations .
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Luc,
I had a dream last night that someone's gaubiju was starting to bloom on the forum, just like mine....
I'm here to congratulate you ahead of time, your tree is flowering...I have used my powers of remote viewing to see it already! :P
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Luc,
I had a dream last night that someone's gaubiju was starting to bloom on the forum, just like mine....
I'm here to congratulate you ahead of time, your tree is flowering...I have used my powers of remote viewing to see it already! :P
Do you do tarot card readings as well? I better check my tree also (non thorny type from Sherry in PR). It's certainly big enough to fruit! Like about 7 feet tall. Is yours in full sun Adam? I think mine might be getting too much shade?
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I can just imagine Luc having a tree that is ready to fruit now!
Yes, mine is in full sun...and has always been...(ethans looks like it's in a full sun situation as well)
i've seen them get super tall and lanky in the shade...I'm sure it prolongs their fruition....the tree is probably racing to get to the top of canopy, where it can present its fruits and flowers to the birds and the bees, thus ensuring optimal seed dispersal. Luc,
I had a dream last night that someone's gaubiju was starting to bloom on the forum, just like mine....
I'm here to congratulate you ahead of time, your tree is flowering...I have used my powers of remote viewing to see it already! :P
Do you do tarot card readings as well? I better check my tree also (non thorny type from Sherry in PR). It's certainly big enough to fruit! Like about 7 feet tall. Is yours in full sun Adam? I think mine might be getting too much shade?
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I can just imagine Luc having a tree that is ready to fruit now!
Yes, mine is in full sun...and has always been...(ethans looks like it's in a full sun situation as well)
i've seen them get super tall and lanky in the shade...I'm sure it prolongs their fruition....the tree is probably racing to get to the top of canopy, where it can present its fruits and flowers to the birds and the bees, thus ensuring optimal seed dispersal.
Well you got it right that someone's tree is fruiting. I think your dream was about mine tree rather than Luc's. I just checked it more thoroughly and there are plenty of flowers and even fruits. I just didn't notice them before because they're up high. This is the first time it's fruited. Yes it got lanky reaching for the light; it's actually about 9+ feet tall.
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Lol...nice!
Congrats Oscar! (If Lucs tree isn't flowering, then it must have been yours I saw in my minds eye :D )
Yours looks much different than mine...leaves look less hairy and flowers look a bit different...does yours have thorns on the tips?
I might be asking to buy some seeds or scions soon! I hope u get lots of seeds and delicious fruits.
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Lol...nice!
Congrats Oscar! (If Lucs tree isn't flowering, then it must have been yours I saw in my minds eye :D )
Yours looks much different than mine...leaves look less hairy and flowers look a bit different...does yours have thorns on the tips?
I might be asking to buy some seeds or scions soon! I hope u get lots of seeds and delicious fruits.
Thanks. No thorns on tips. Has been really growing fast. Look forward to tasting this fruit for first time. Anestor in Brazil told me it is one of his favorite fruits.
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My guabiju has the thorns on leave tips but it has become a good fruiter
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my plant came from Ben Poirier in Fallbrook Ca. don't rmember how old guess 7-10yrs.
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Robert,
wow! very nice!! Have u tasted the fruits? if so what's your opinion?? thanks for sharing!
Oscar,
thanks for the info! I'm eager to get scions from yours if possible...and a few seeds!
I'm happy you got a different variety! seems like yours is mo' rare!
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Adam, have had fruit last 3-yrs and getting more every year, very taste little fruit reminds me of paulista jabo in a way ( the only jabo I've been able to taste here) tough skin spitter but flesh around seed interesting flora sweet galatiness ;) I need a hedge of this because it's also cold hardy! Took 24f for 2-3 hour duration with only young tip growth burnt. Fruits are 1/2-3/4inch diameter with 1/2-1/3 seed space.
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Adam, have had fruit last 3-yrs and getting more every year, very taste little fruit reminds me of paulista jabo in a way ( the only jabo I've been able to taste here) tough skin spitter but flesh around seed interesting flora sweet galatiness ;) I need a hedge of this because it's also cold hardy! Took 24f for 2-3 hour duration with only young tip growth burnt. Fruits are 1/2-3/4inch diameter with 1/2-1/3 seed space.
thanks for the info my friend! sounds like a winner!
it can handle about 18-19F I've heard!
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Adam, have had fruit last 3-yrs and getting more every year, very taste little fruit reminds me of paulista jabo in a way ( the only jabo I've been able to taste here) tough skin spitter but flesh around seed interesting flora sweet galatiness ;) I need a hedge of this because it's also cold hardy! Took 24f for 2-3 hour duration with only young tip growth burnt. Fruits are 1/2-3/4inch diameter with 1/2-1/3 seed space.
thanks for the info my friend! sounds like a winner!
it can handle about 18-19F I've heard!
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Guabiju, you're a better man than I ;)
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got to taste Guabiju for the first time today!
the fruits were a bit larger than I anticipated...(my friend OrganicJim grew them)
the flavor was pleasant, but very hard to describe...it didn't taste as I'd expect.
I did not detect any resin flavor (that I would associate with Myrciaria or Eugenia)...but maybe this is because I did not taste of the skin? I simply cut the fruit in half for the picture, and the pulp slid out of the skin without effort.
the flavor was mild, sweet (not extremely sweet), reminiscent of a persimmon (strangely enough). I can't think of any other fruit to compare the flavor to.
the fruits each had one seed, that was easily removed from the pulp.
this fruit is very easy to enjoy!
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One time, I identified I guabiju fruit in the Miami area. The fruit is pretty good. However, it is a small fruit and the tree can become quite big if not prunned.
I would use my real estate for a better cost/benefit fruit tree. Guabiju is found in the south and southeast part of Brasil where the climate can get very cold during the Winter.
Just an unrequested/unsolicited opinion!
Thanks for reporting! Is there more guabijús fruiting at Miami?
Cheers