The Tropical Fruit Forum

I don't have it, but I often read people saying that you don't want the real ice cream, cause it's much worse than the fake one, not good tasting.

Hi,
Do you have Pouteria torta gallifructa and Pouteria Viridis:
http://floracostaricensis.myspecies.info/taxonomy/term/27159/media

Last year I've sold and trade a lot of Lucuma seeds. The variety I have seems to be "La Molina".
Should have seeds in a month or so.

Hi, how long does it take from flower to mature fruit?Does it continue to mature with cold weather?

Quote from: 00christian00 on August 01, 2017, 05:16:10 AM

Quote from: vipinrl on August 01, 2017, 04:31:30 AM

The guy is not from Portugal; he is from Kerala only.
I don't think A. hirsutus will flower in 3 years.
One more thing: he is living in the HOTTEST part of Kerala (ie., Punalur). Temperature won't fall below 20C in Punalur and goes upto around 44C.

I am not sure we are talking of the same person, did you see the link?
Yes, I made a mistake on the location but not much. He is from Canary Island in Spain. This is the link on the weather he gave me previously, which you can see on the comments:
http://www.meteoclimatic.net/perfil/ESICA3500000135100A?screen_width=1920
Oh, I get it, since I posted a search link probably you see a different thing. Try this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/amantesdefrutales/permalink/1912316392337558/
He should be a member here too.

Dear friend, seeing the pictures, I doubt if it is A. hirsutus!

Why do you think so?

In June 1985 the Livestock Research Station in Tiruvazhamkunnu in Palghat ( now called Palakkad ), Kerala initiated a field experiment planting eight fast growing multi purpose trees including Artocarpus hirsutus. Each of the eight species were planted separately in a lot of 20 m x 20 m and at 2 m x 2 m from each other.
In October 1993 the mean height of the Artocarpus hirsutus were 5.5 m and the age of the trees were 8 years and 6 months.

Is that of Areca palm seedling in the back ground of the second picture? Is it missing in the background of the accompanying first picture? I have planted in zone 13 in Latitude 13 degrees 17 ' 09" N and 74 degrees 44' 40" E in ideal humid, hot tropical monsoon climatic area, two ( not one as I mentioned before ) seedlings of A. hirsutus 6 1/2 years ago. They are about 10 feet tall with a diameter of about 4 inches. At the same time I have planted two A. altilis, one A. camanci and 4 A. heterophylus. Most of them are about 20 feet in height and already fruiting. A. hirsutus seedlings will probably fruit after 15 to 20 years.
One of the two A. hirsutus ( I have to find during my next visit where the other one is ) my brother planted about 45 years ago is about 50 to 55 feet in height and about 12" in diameter. It started fruiting about 15 to 20 years ago. And the yearly temperature there is between 70 F to 90 F with high humidity and ample monsoon rain.

I don't see the reason why vipinrl should be lying. Maybe there are different cultivars of hirsutus with different growth pace.

This is a facebook post of a guy in portugal with an Artocarpus Hirsutus flowering at 3 years old, with minimum temp of 12 degrees celsius:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/amantesdefrutales/permalink/1912316392337558/

EDITED LINK

Artocarpus hirsutis: Not seen growing in beyond 16 degrees latitude in the Southern coastal and adjoining plateau of tropical India. It will not tolerate less than 60 degrees F. It was a non cultivated tree found wild in the woods and forests. Propagated by the wildlife mainly by bats, monkeys, squirrels and birds. Because of it's high quality wood and demand most of the old trees have disappeared. It is a VERY SLOW growing majestic tree. The unripe fruit is green and is skinned and boiled and preserved in brine for later usage in some kind of curries.
You need a hot and humid tropical and 'woody' environment. In your zone 9a you have to build a huge green house with regulated high temperature and humidity throughout the year..
I have been travelling twice a year to those areas in India for the last 50+ years. It's fruiting season is April to June. About 6 years ago while I was visiting India I carefully dug up a 9" seedling from under one of our big A h tree and transplanted about 200 feet or so from the river bank (salty backwater) in our family estate. It is about 7 to 8 feet tall in last March I saw it. Probably it will take another 15 years or so to fruit unlike it's cousin Jack! I will be a centenarian then! I have recommended few horticulturists in that region  to make available some grafted trees. Will find out soon during my next visit what happened. Good luck Signor.

It is slow growing, indeed. Since the last update 1 month ago it has grown probably another 5cm and is around 17-18 cm(top grower) now, against 45cm of a jackfruit in 1 month(top grower).
The fruiting time and cold hardiness is not what I have been told, they told me it fruit in 5 years and is more cold hardy than jackfruit and can survive -2/-3 degrees.

NEW Season fruit seeds from my Farm SALE or Trade...
Wild Jack Fruit seeds (Artocarpus hirsutus) ...

Hari, Can you comment on this?

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Beautiful garden, looks like around here with the rosemary and such.

I hope you're not planning on keeping those avocado trees that close?  With the exception of a few "dwarfs" they'll need 3 meters in width apart and will eventually grow 10m. tall.

Thanks! As I said above, I am trying to graft them together to create a multirootstock, don't have space for 2 avocado trees anyway. The photo is outdated, now they are approach grafted, hopefully it will take.

@Christian

Thank you for the link. I might just decide to go for Hass or some of the other varieties offered there. Aren't those rootstocks from trees that were grown from seed? If that's the case, than maybe it would be cheaper for me to just buy a seed and grow it myself? Though I might end up with something that's not of good quality...

Yes, they are seedling but are already quite developed so maybe you'll have better chance with them.
Mine was one 2m and the other 1.5m, 3 years old. I am trying to combine them in a multi rootstock to speed up everything.
Sure there should be some variability but not much if they use it often as rootstock. The problem is always finding the seed if you want to grow it yourself.
I would advice going for Bacon if you plan to keep the graft too, since Hass is really cold sensitive.
Otherwise in Spain or some Italian nursery you can find avocado on clonal rootstocks of Dusa or Duke 3 which should be quite cold hardy, probably near Mexicola but the quality of the fruit doesn't seem great so you need to hope the graft doesn't die. Instead Walter Hole should have a taste like Mexicola with edible skin and all.

Have you tried Nanking cherry/ Prunus tomentosa?
It's not sweet like a real cherry, but it's quite tasty and not too sour, my 6 year nephew like it a lot.
Probably sour like a strawberry. The fruit are kinda small however.

Can regular guava be grafted on strawberry guava? I would like to try grafting it onto the yellow one, psidium littorale.

I couldn't believe there was a major difference in fruit quality depending on the soil, but the same strawberry grown on a container with fresh bought rich fertilized soil and one with my regular old in ground soil, the difference was like night and day.
The one in the fresh soil was very flavor rich and sweet, the one in ground It is very tart and I have to wait for the fruit to get almost too ripen to get it decent.
You could try digging the ground around the rootball and fill it with rich manure fertilizer, that should improve the fruit quality.
I read that also molasses improve sweetness a lot, but it's quite expensive here.