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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: WaterFowler on February 09, 2019, 03:00:32 PM
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I ordered an African Pride atemoya from
http://www.chfruittreenursery.com (http://www.chfruittreenursery.com). I couldn't find an AP from any of the sellers I normally buy from so I took a chance on these guys. They sent it quickly, it arrived yesterday afternoon. I was putting it in my greenhouse when I noticed the trunk damaged. Would you accept a tree in this condition?
(https://i.postimg.cc/LqQsSt2M/20190209-114418.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqQsSt2M)
(https://i.postimg.cc/s1h2FGLt/20190209-114348.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1h2FGLt)
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No I would not. But it also depends on the postage it would cost to send it back.
Contact them before the time limit is up (looks like a week) and see if they will look at pictures. Might be cheaper if they would give you a discount on a second tree, depending on what the postage is that you have to pay to send it back.
And I can't tell from the photo, but it almost looks like it has been grafted twice? Once below the damage, and once above.
Carolyn
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No way.
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I would not accept that Tree, is that a third graft on the very top?
Its time to negotiate, they should have sent you a pic. of the tree before shipping it, to see if it was acceptable to you.
Carlos
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shitty saler and morally wrong.
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I would not accept that Tree, is that a third graft on the very top?
Not certain bottom 2 notches are grafts. But yeah, that's the graft way up top. Still has tape.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jwmqCNs6/20190210-100229.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jwmqCNs6)
Hopefully they respond on Monday
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To be honest its not pretty but most likely will grow right out of that and will never make any difference in the long run.
The scar at the bottom is the only concerning part. As long as that doesnt get worse I would worry about it much.
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I ordered an African Pride atemoya from
http://www.chfruittreenursery.com (http://www.chfruittreenursery.com). I couldn't find an AP from any of the sellers I normally buy from so I took a chance on these guys. They sent it quickly, it arrived yesterday afternoon. I was putting it in my greenhouse when I noticed the trunk damaged. Would you accept a tree in this condition?
(https://i.postimg.cc/LqQsSt2M/20190209-114418.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqQsSt2M)
(https://i.postimg.cc/s1h2FGLt/20190209-114348.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1h2FGLt)
I have never read a good review about this seller... I mean shipping client. Only those who went in his house are amazed by his fruit trees.
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To be honest its not pretty but most likely will grow right out of that and will never make any difference in the long run.
The scar at the bottom is the only concerning part. As long as that doesnt get worse I would worry about it much.
It's missing a third of the cambium layer around the base. Probably a lot more prone to infection at that point as well. Plus it's starting to flake or split right there. Anyways mistakes happen all the time, I make plenty of them. ;D I'm not going to get all excited at this point, I'll just wait for his response.
In hindsight I should have taken a photo of it the way it was shipped but I didn't notice the scar because it was heavily wrapped with not one, not two but three types of tape. Clear carton sealing tape, masking tape and finally electric tape lol. When I cut through the tape and quickly moved the root ball to its new home, only then did I notice the problem.
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I agree with post posters that I would not except that ! With that being said if you are keeping the tree i would carefully cut into wounded area and clean up bark to good clean cambium then I would paint trunk up to above graft. Paint with 50/50 % latex & water. Now watch tree for signs of continued disease.
You can also add some type of anti-fungal/viral/bacterial product to paint. Good luck witch ever way you go :-X
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Not certain bottom 2 notches are grafts. But yeah, that's the graft way up top. Still has tape.
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The seller apparently did a side graft and failed (the apparent wound). He then waited for the rootstock to grow a bit and did an approach graft that took and sold it to you. We've all done this, reusing rootstocks from failed grafts but you don't sell it out like this.
I've never heard anything good on this one seller and now we have proof of his apparent bad reputation.
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After I pruned 1/2" cherimoya branch flush with the trunk, I would wrap the fresh wound with green plant tie. 6 months later callus filled over the wound.
Otherwise I'll have to look at the ugly wound for years.
You should try it if you decided to keep.
Maybe clean up the wound and create a fresh wound, then wrap.
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It's probably fine -- but dang, the grafter really struggled with that one. Looks like the first 2 grafts failed; then they gave up and went with an approach graft for #3.
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Seller informed me that wound would heal up "automatically" and be no problem. When I told him I wanted a replacement, he immediately said he'd take it back and replace it, so good on him.
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Yikes! Thats some shotty work. It's fine if you want to practice grafting, but not cool, if you want to sell your product. I guess they don't have that inner voice that tells you "that looks like shit".
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Seller informed me that wound would heal up "automatically" and be no problem. When I told him I wanted a replacement, he immediately said he'd take it back and replace it, so good on him.
Will you have to pay for shipping?
Do they have a "store" for you to go in and look at their inventory?
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Seller informed me that wound would heal up "automatically" and be no problem. When I told him I wanted a replacement, he immediately said he'd take it back and replace it, so good on him.
Will you have to pay for shipping?
Do they have a "store" for you to go in and look at their inventory?
Yeah, I'll have to pay for shipping. Probably around $15. Worth it to get a decent looking tree.
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Seller informed me that wound would heal up "automatically" and be no problem. When I told him I wanted a replacement, he immediately said he'd take it back and replace it, so good on him.
Will you have to pay for shipping?
Do they have a "store" for you to go in and look at their inventory?
Yeah, I'll have to pay for shipping. Probably around $15. Worth it to get a decent looking tree.
If he sends you a real nice tree won't you wonder why he didn't in the first place?
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Well this kinda sucks. Seller decided to just refund instead of sending a replacement when I emailed him about when replacement tree would arrive. Actually he didn't even respond, I just got an email from PP saying the money had been refunded. He still profited though, cost him $7.50 in shipping but charged $15. And I'm out the $7.50 for return shipping. Oh well, at least he refunded. Live and learn.
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Atkins nursery in fallbrook/vista area of san diego has 15gal african pride trees for cheap. I got one last year and it already made a bunch of fruit. Maybe you could do a road trip.
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Thanks. I might have to do that one of these days. I sent one of our drivers to Mimosa in LA last year but it's kinda of a tight fit on those streets for a commercial vehicle. ;D
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I would not accept that Tree, is that a third graft on the very top?
Not certain bottom 2 notches are grafts. But yeah, that's the graft way up top. Still has tape.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jwmqCNs6/20190210-100229.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jwmqCNs6)
Hopefully they respond on Monday
That is one "butt-ugly" grafting job. :o
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Thanks. I might have to do that one of these days. I sent one of our drivers to Mimosa in LA last year but it's kinda of a tight fit on those streets for a commercial vehicle. ;D
Plus their prices are insane. I think it was 55$ for a 15gal AP tree at atkins.
Also cherimoya/atemoya trees are pretty easy to grow and graft from seed.
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Thanks. I might have to do that one of these days. I sent one of our drivers to Mimosa in LA last year but it's kinda of a tight fit on those streets for a commercial vehicle. ;D
Plus their prices are insane. I think it was 55$ for a 15gal AP tree at atkins.
Also cherimoya/atemoya trees are pretty easy to grow and graft from seed.
Don't make me feel bad. I just paid $120 with shipping for an AP 4-5' 3 gallon haha. I know it's too hot here for Cherimoyas or Soursop. Sugar apples do ok, but our winters will kill them. I'm crossing my fingers to see how an atemoya will do. Will probably just be another expensive experiment lol
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Have you tried to grow date palm ?.
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Have you tried to grow date palm ?.
I'm literally surrounded by thousands of medjool, barhi and deglet palms. We have 8 medjools on property.
Edit: I know a date farmer who has a barhi seedling that has a red blush to it with fantastic size and super sweet taste. If I add one more date palm that would be it. But I doubt he will be selling any shoots any time soon lol
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Wanted to chime in on my experience with them.
Spent 4 digits on their stuff and the largest container was 3 gallons.
Half of the trees purchased, were not even qualified for 3 gallons, they were suitable for 1 gallon after repotting them.
Purchased Taiwan Jujube on their site, died in 2 weeks.
The scion that was grafted looked like it was growing, it was actually not. Just a branch from the tree posing to look like it took.
Four other Guavas, same problem. Trees sold weren't successful takes and they're being sold with no guarantee.
Bunch of other stuff was purchased, many of them died, grafts died, rootstock survived.
They're located right behind Champa and from what I was told not a registered nursery.
All grafts were exactly the same on all trees, regardless of scion/rootstock sizing, bark/side veneer graft.
Some looked good, others look like it was done by a blind person.
Grafting material was just a clear garden tape.
Local pickup is not allowed, they are very shady and lie about sending you the best quality.
If that was the case they'd provide you accurate pictures of the stuff you've purchased before sending you one they neglected for so long.
They are members of this forum and lurking this thread, that's why you received your refund so quickly.
Overall experience, I waste my money and time, they came off very rude and that should have been a red flag.
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Show yourselves you lurkers!! If we find out you are dealing bad business, your business will receive a "Viking funeral" in said forum. If you're cool, no worries.
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Show yourselves you lurkers!! If we find out you are dealing bad business, your business will receive a "Viking funeral" in said forum. If you're cool, no worries.
I really believe in this, but what are the rules?? i posted about receiving a box full of white flies from a florida e-bay seller a couple years ago and was told very strongly by 1 of our admins to never do that again or i would be kicked off the form. Patrick
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Alright, which admin? Because that is some old BS.
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Have you tried to grow date palm ?.
I'm literally surrounded by thousands of medjool, barhi and deglet palms. We have 8 medjools on property.
Edit: I know a date farmer who has a barhi seedling that has a red blush to it with fantastic size and super sweet taste. If I add one more date palm that would be it. But I doubt he will be selling any shoots any time soon lol
Wonderful.
I personally prefer barhi over medjhool but, medjhool is still a very good cultivar to have. A good barhi date palm produce one of most delicious dates I have ever had, taste like Vanilla-Caramel.
You could try to grow Marula, this species can handle heat with no problem.
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Which fruiting date palm can’t handle heat with no problem?
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I know this post is old but I recently got burned by this seller as well! I'm a new member and recently joined to gain experience from growing tropical trees. I was really wanted a crystal guava, and missle wax apple trees but found noone to sell, especially from where I live. I've read some bad reviews from his facebook, etc..but didn't see one from this forum until now. Anyhow, these are supposed to be '5gallons' plants and came with almost bare leaves as you can see. This man doesnt reply to emails, messenger or phone calls! His website clearly stated to email him for a discount in shipping when ordered multiple, but yet he wont reply to any of it! When I emailed him about the condition of the plants, of course no reply!! I actually care more about if these plants will survive at all looking like this! His instructions said to put a clear bag over these plants, with two small hokes on the side...and that's it, when they arrive...Any tips, advise on how to care for these plants are appreciated!
(https://i.postimg.cc/k6TY8Wh5/377-BF08-D-4-B14-46-C1-91-BE-6-BA6148-B75-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6TY8Wh5)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jth28dGH/0-FD3-CFCC-045-A-4800-A25-C-F2-D4-E0-C83-E04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jth28dGH)
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I know this post is old but I recently got burned by this seller as well! I'm a new member and recently joined to gain experience from growing tropical trees. I was really wanted a crystal guava, and missle wax apple trees but found noone to sell, especially from where I live. I've read some bad reviews from his facebook, etc..but didn't see one from this forum until now. Anyhow, these are supposed to be '5gallons' plants and came with almost bare leaves as you can see. This man doesnt reply to emails, messenger or phone calls! His website clearly stated to email him for a discount in shipping when ordered multiple, but yet he wont reply to any of it! When I emailed him about the condition of the plants, of course no reply!! I actually care more about if these plants will survive at all looking like this! His instructions said to put a clear bag over these plants, with two small hokes on the side...and that's it, when they arrive...Any tips, advise on how to care for these plants are appreciated!
(https://i.postimg.cc/k6TY8Wh5/377-BF08-D-4-B14-46-C1-91-BE-6-BA6148-B75-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6TY8Wh5)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jth28dGH/0-FD3-CFCC-045-A-4800-A25-C-F2-D4-E0-C83-E04.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jth28dGH)
I ordered a crystal seedless guava from the same seller couple months ago. The tree is ugly and in bad shape, but I very want it so I didn't bother to contact the seller. As long as there is root, pot it and put it under a shaded area to allow it to recovery. My tree is doing fine and still ugly, but have two flower now. Hope I can try the fruit this year.
I brought another air-layer one from one of the forum member here. The tree is beautiful.
This is my opinion, when you wanted an item and you can find any other source for it then deal with all the issue associated with it. I remembered one of the forum member told me, "sometime money can't buy the tree/scion that you wanted, because you can't find the source for it."
Crystal seedless is one of the difficult one to find, and it is very hard to graft. I made over 20 attempts, none success.
This tree is from that seller not from the forum member.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZmzGwWy/20200704-084222.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16G7p8H)
This tree is from the forum member.
(https://i.ibb.co/N9r28PV/20200629-063759.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cb6KkZ1)
Thanks,
Al
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Pink, I agree totally that was why I went ahead and bought them anyways. However, I was still hoping that he would have the courtesy to send me a somewhat decent one. Heck, I would take yours instead! Lol. Did you follow the bagging instructions? Please do share how you got yours to thrive. It's been almost 1 week, and all my leaves have fell off...I'm getting nervous!
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No, did not follow the instructions provided to me. I removed the cover and the paper. Just kept the soil. Beside I putted it under shaded area, I misted it during early morning and evening until it full recovery. Don't fertilize it until it full recovery. As you can see in the picture, I still mist it as today.
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Yea, I'm trying to keep the huminity up for them as well. My guava seems ok so far but there's no sign for the wax apple yet! Yikes..