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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My First Taste of Lisa Atemoya
« on: December 27, 2017, 11:58:01 AM »
I had my first try of Lisa Atemoya and it was good!  Just have to say it was not my fruit but it was backyard grown here in San Diego. From previous discussions on the forum, I was expecting a less than mediocre fruit.  The tree doesn't produce a lot of fruit and maybe this one fruit was small but it weighed in at 13 ounces. It may have been picked a little early but the skin between the areoles started to turn pink/light yellow, so I picked it and let it ripen on the counter for five days. The areoles and skin of the fruit just start to slightly soften and it felt like plastic.  I cut it open and ate half if it right away and put the other half in the fridge to eat later chilled. The first sensation I had when eating the fruit was it was sweet, then came the rather berry like-taste. I though the chilled half tasted even better and had the taste of strawberry yogurt with chunks of fruit in it. I agree with other reviewers that it is not as creamy as a Cherimoya and the carpels are somewhat chewy,but not overly so.  I would probably rate it a 3.5 out of 5 on taste, low seed count of 13 seeds was good.  Overall, it was an enjoyable fruit, creamy in between the areoles, and definately worthwhile eating!  ;D







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cacao seeds and seedlings
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:02:08 AM »
A friend of mine brought back the typical cacao fruit often purchased while visiting ports in a cruise ship. I couldn't get to the fruit right away,but opened it last week and almost half of the fruit was molding.  I saved as many seeds as I could and removed the outer flesh from the seeds. The seeds were so soft....I thought they had already began to rot. I read in other posts  how easy the seeds were to germinate, so I used the paper towel method and heat mat.  I was surprised how quickly they germinated in four days and with 95% germination rate. They have now been planted in pots and are hanging out in a greenhouse.  I noted in other posts that I should be careful to not over water them and to watch out for damping off.  Any  other advice to keep the seedlings alive and happy?

Cacao fruit


Seeds with outer flesh removed


Germinating seeds after 4 days


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Trip to Panama - any fruit ideas?
« on: November 27, 2017, 11:38:48 PM »
I am traveling to Panama in mid December, I’ll only be staying for a few days, but was wondering what tropical fruits would be in season? Any one know of some good orchards or farmers markets? It looks a like I will have missed Ilama snd Sancoya season  :'(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone Know This Guava?
« on: November 18, 2017, 10:33:28 AM »
My neighbor has a large guava tree, but she doesn't know the variety.  One thing that I noticed about this tree was the large eight inch long leaves.  I thought I may be one of the Vietnamese or Thailand guavas, but when it fruited the skin was smooth and the fruit very round.  The mature fruits are about 4 inches across and taste creamy and a bit pear-like.  Like a cross of Mexican cream and Mexican Pear.  Anyone have an idea what this could be...maybe some random seedling?

The Tree and Fruit








The unknown guava on the right and Tropic Pink on the left







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hunting the elusive Delicious Monster
« on: November 12, 2017, 10:27:33 AM »
Well not exactly hunting since I only had to walk out on the patio, but waiting the 10 months for the fruit to ripen is almost like hunting.  I pass by the plant almost every day and after a while I forget that the fruit is even there.  This weekend I smelled a strong fruity fragrance and it took me a moment to realize that one of the delicious monster fruits was ripe and starting to fall apart. A couple more fruit are just about ripe and are beginning to hang down.....just about ready to cut.  I cut them and leave them on a plate on the kitchen counter to let the raphides and trichosclereids of calcium oxalate break down, so the fruit is not painful to eat.  I really like the flavor....a bit like pineapple, banana, and mango/peach.  Just wish there was more to the fruit than a spoonful at a time.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Passiflora alata 'Ruby Glow' finally fruits
« on: November 06, 2017, 12:45:38 AM »
Enjoying the last of the P. alata flowers this weekend and wondering how long it will take for the fruits to mature. It seems in south Florida and Hawaii previous posts suggest March or April.  Does it really take about 7 months for these fruit to mature?
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=4610.msg63463#msg63463
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=15254.msg194334#msg194334

I hope the fruit don't rot in our cold wet winters.  I was also able to get a P. macrocarpa to flower and fruit using P. alata as a pollen donor.

P. alata flowers and fruit






P. macrocarpa flowers and fruit





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Green Caimito Blooming
« on: November 01, 2017, 02:50:31 PM »
Just in time for The Day of the Dead! I hope this doesn't portend a bad ending for the tree. I am just surprised that I was able to get it to bloom so rapidly. This was originally a 3 gallon air layered plant that I bought in February, and expected it to take another year or so before it would bloom.  I am just curious if fall and early winter are the normal times for Caimito to bloom in other subtropical/tropical areas?  I noticed some other posts with similar bloom times, but wondered if it varies more in the tropics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Now that is some Avocado! Or is it?
« on: August 13, 2017, 04:35:38 PM »
In honor of the last season of Game of Thrones.......a hilarious meme!  Perhaps Daenerys Stormborn Targaryen should have a new title "Mother of Avocados! I can't imagine finding the perfect avocado in the supermarket, but maybe a backyard grown avocado in California!



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Weekend Projects
« on: August 11, 2017, 09:06:37 PM »
I ordered seed from Fruitlovers last spring and they all germinated.....Awesome!  The Purple Caimito and Climbing Ylang Ylang germinated the quickest, then followed by the Cocoplum and Downy Myrtle.  I have heard that Caimito suffer from transplant shock easily.  Anyone had experience with this? This weekend i will  transplant them and get ready for my next seed order.  I also have some Cherimoya seedlings that I started from a couple of mid-spring fruits I ate.  Just wanted to see if I still could germinate seeds after the disaster Passilfora experiment I had at the beginning of the year.




I grafted some scions I bought from JF last weekend and this weekend I am going to try grafting scions that I prepared myself from some Cherimoyas including Pierce, Honeyhart, and El Bumpbo.  This will be good practice for me to get my grafting skills improved.


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I am heading up to Santa Barbara next week and I thought it would be interesting to visit a Cherimoya orchard up that way.  I know about Good Land Organics, but it doesn't seem like visiting that orchard is what they normally allow.  Anyone know of any other orchards big or small that I could visit?  I just think it would be neat to see the orchard up close, with the trees in full growth and even bloom.  I realize the fruits won't be ready for months, but I have never been to a Cherimoya orchard before, that I can recall.  ::)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The Tale of Twiggy the Unidentified Ilama
« on: July 12, 2017, 07:58:36 AM »
I planted this Ilama last fall and stripped the leaves in February. Not much happened with the plant, so I started calling her Twiggy.  Just happy to report she is still alive and finally flushing a lot of new growth. She may have been very pot bound when planted, so that and limited water in spring may have contributed to rather disappointing growth until now. I water her every other day since May and now she seems like she is growing normally. Perhaps next year she will flower and fruit, and we can determine what variety she is.

March after stripping


Now with new growth






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / San Diego Botanic Garden Visit
« on: May 21, 2017, 11:28:13 AM »
I had a nice visit to the San Diego Botanical Garden and decided to spend some more time in the subtropical fruit section and look around.  Everything is starting to grow after winter, and with all the rain we had many of the fruit trees are looking much better than in the past couple of drought years.  Maybe in twenty years my Jaboticaba will look as nice as the one in the gardens!

Jaboticaba


Jordan Macadamia


Yellow Coffee


Black Sapote


Satin Leaf


Lucuma


Surinam Cherries


Cherimoya Flowers


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Flower Buds on African Pride
« on: May 19, 2017, 07:48:56 PM »
I am very happy that my AP has more than one or two flower buds on it and it looks like I will get a few opening at a time.  In the past three years I could not get enough flowers to hand pollinate, but happy to report that with the help of this forum, it looks like this year I may get fruit.  I want to thank all the Annona experts here on the forum and for Frank's help in directing me to strip the leaves every time I asked.....is it time. :D  Do you think these will open in the next couple of weeks?







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit at the Local Vietnamese Market
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:59:06 PM »
You never know what's in your local Vietnamese market unless you venture in.  I have been stopping by the last few weeks and now that spring is here more exotic fruit is arriving.  I found everyone's favorite....frozen Durian  :P.  But the good thing was fresh Jackfruit, Dragonfruit, and Longan.  I forgot to get a photo of the Longan at the checkout counter.













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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Spring Blooms
« on: March 04, 2017, 12:32:54 PM »
I consider spring in coastal southern California to begin around the end of February. We didn't have the bloom fairy visit as early as Florida, but we are starting to get into the swing of things now.  I have a few blooms opening on my Keitt mango and Gold Nugget tangerine this week.  The Fuerte avocado has been blooming since late January, but now has a second flush of blooms, and the Lolita Surinam Cherry is blooming like crazy!  Anyone else have some good stuff blooming?


















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Biriba Stripping Advice
« on: February 18, 2017, 10:33:38 AM »
In other threads I noted that Biriba (Annona mucosa) looses its leaves in winter in south Florida.  Just wondering if Biriba looses its leaves entirely every year for you in the Miami/south Florida area?  I know these are suppose to be semi-deciduous plants, but since we get most of our rain in the winter in San Diego, all my leaves are still on my Biriba. I am thinking of stripping the plant, but wondered if I should take all the leaves off, or leave some on. The leaves are starting to look a little battered and have some brown edges due to winter storms and possibly sun damage.  I noticed in other posts, that Biribas like other Annonas will bloom later in the year as well.  Do you find that they bloom for you every winter in south Florida?  My Biriba is large enough to bloom well this year (about 7-8 feet tall) and has bloomed sparsely before.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Local Nurseries Can Surprise You
« on: February 11, 2017, 04:48:34 PM »
I was at one of the local nurseries here in San Diego (Walter Anderson's), and was just perusing the fruit tree section and noticed several mango varieties that they had for sale.  This is a bit unusual because they often only carry Ataulfo and Keitt. I was almost shocked to see Carrie, Kent, Sweet Tart, Ugly Betty, and Zill among others. Then, what caught me off guard was that they had five gallon Guanabanas.  I did not expect that. I am wondering who will buy those Guanabanas and will they know how to take care of them?  It would be neat to see more people try them around here.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Taste Question to Cherimoya Aficionados
« on: February 08, 2017, 05:48:51 PM »
I just ate a nice Cherimoya that had a really awesome tutti frutti taste. I checked the forum search and google, but could not come up with a specific variety of Cherimoya that would fit.  Tutti frutti is a common adjective used to describe the taste of Cherimoya.  This variety really tasted like I just popped a stick of Juicy Fruit Gum in my mouth.  I have tried Big Sister, Booth, Ecuador, Nata, Orton, White and a few others I can't remember, but they didn't taste like this.  The fruit was an impressa type and sweet, but not overly so.  It has very little acid taste to it.  Anyone want to hazard a guess to help a beginning Cherimoya freak narrow down some varieties?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Star Apple Varieties
« on: January 01, 2017, 01:15:35 PM »
I just wondered if anyone has further information on good named varieties of Star Apple (Chrysophyllum cainito).  I have read a few of the previous topics on this forum, but there seems to be a lot of variation in people's opinion.  Many people seem to like the green varieties more than the purple.  The purple Haitian variety seems to be common in Florida, but with mixed reviews in taste.

Has anyone on the forum tried the Corrongo variety from Top Tropicals?  Ong's has some, but I am not sure anyone has gotten that to fruit and taste it.  Anyone know of a source for these fruit to buy/taste in southern California? 

I realize this is a marginal plant in southern California, but my area of San Diego may be appropriate for it.  Perhaps I should be more concerned with growing the plant in my climate and worry about the possibility of grafting better varieties later?  Any input would be helpful.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ilama or no Ilama, that is my question.
« on: December 24, 2016, 03:35:14 PM »
I have a small Annona that I purchased and just wondered if more knowledgeable people could take a look at these photographs to help identify it.  I know right off hand, it is difficult to determine the species of a plant just by stems and leaves, especially without fruit or flowers.  I thought I would put a few of these photographs out for you to help me determine what this plant may be.  I purchased it as an unnamed variety of Annona diversifolia. 

If you could take a look at these too Frank, and see if they match your gestalt for A. diversifolia, I would appreciate it.  I could not remember what the outcome of your nonilama Annona was, but I recall it may have been an Atemoya?

The first photo is of the entire plant, sorry not a good one, but the rest of my jungle doesn't provide a great backdrop.

The second photo is of the undersides of the leaves which are a well defined grayish/green.

The third photo is a close up of the base of a branch showing what appears to be the first leaf of a stem that resembles what I understand is the rounded/clasping leaf that gives the epithet for the species - diversifolia.

The fourth photo is of a branch of my "ilama" on the left, compared with my Atemoya (AP) on the right.

Any input anyone has would be welcome.  I have yet to see this species in real life other than photographs. 

Thanks!

Bob










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