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I have been looking for Yara Yara seeds but I am afraid Customs would seize them as I live in the States

Much depends on how they are packed and the way are delivered. Personally rarely got problems in seeds shipment. Furthermore, in some states you can also apply for seed import permit permit. It's not that difficul to get as per my understanding.

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Dear friends,

I was one of the first in this group and in many others to promote the discovery of the DUGUETIA LEPIDOTA also called Yara Yara by the indigenous people of Venezuela.

This specie represents a true and ultra rare treasure we all need to protect in our garden: the fruit is simply AMAZING. Duguetia lepidota is an exceptionally good tasting fruit if not the best tasting Duguetia ever. The flavor reminds of a very sweet apricot. Interestingly the center of the fruit is also edible and surpasses the pulp around the seeds in sweetness. It is a initally slow growing tree and starts bearing fruit after 8 to 9 years under good conditions. The tree is ultratropical and seeds start germinating after about 1 year.

Since it's very truly difficult to get very fresh seeds of this specie in years, you can imagine this is a one off sale occasion, only 80 seeds available. You can register your profile and buy seed at this link:

https://www.botanicswap.com/catalog/plant/4db40544-7f74-49a2-b2cb-f80adc55a187






But it's not all: I have also available very fresh DUGUETIA PERUVIANA: it is a slow-growing evergreen tree with a globose, dense crown, that can reach a height of 7-10 metres. It is a rare species only found in Ecuador and Peru.
It has an edible fruit that is first green and turns red when ripening. The succulent pulp around each seed has a sweet flavour.
The fruit is around 9cm in diameter. So rare that it worth to have even for protection!

You can buy seeds here: https://www.botanicswap.com/catalog/plant/8f695c9c-ad41-4ddf-adbc-a91a2297866a





Last but not leats: I have a vary good and selected variety of ANNONA CRASSIFLORA straight from Cerrado. This variety demonstrated to be well established in middle-south European climate. That means you can have good chance to cultivate it outdoor if you can replicate the soil and exposure. This is a great advantage for big fans of the king of Cerrado!

This variety is top quality in terms of pulp/seeds ratio and texture. It has been selected and tested here in Italy in my garden. Very good sweet persistent flavour and meaty texture.

You can buy seeds here: https://www.botanicswap.com/catalog/plant/4de99e1b-0347-46f4-bece-d7330d41e1a1





ALL SEEDS SHIPPED FROM EUROPE!

Have a good shopping!

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Duguetia peruviana! ULTRA RARE!
« on: September 16, 2023, 11:23:08 AM »
If you are an Annonaceae collector you cannot miss: very fresh and ultra rare Duguetia peruviana seeds directly from the jungle for sale. Buy here:

https://www.botanicswap.com/catalog/plant/8f695c9c-ad41-4ddf-adbc-a91a2297866a

Not frequently seen on TFF!

Few seeds available

Ciao

Giampaolo










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Below my answers:


Ciao Giampaolo!

Are you growing any of these outdoors?

During summer, yes! In winter most of those are indoor!

Where in italy are you located?

I live in the north of Italy

Would be interested in species that would survive Lazio-

If you have a south exposed side in Lazio region of in Italy I think at least half of the list can be fine. If you are interested, PM to me!

Ciao!

Grazie mille!

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Hey guys, we are approaching the end of season! Here it is a photo of the plants for sale.



This is the list of the available species:

Annona sclerophylla
Annona spraguei
Annona senegalensis
Annona stenophylla
Annona scleroderma
Annona hypoglauca (with fur)
Annona hypoglauca (no fur)
Annona sp. Peru
Porcelia sp. Peru
Annona muricata yellow fruit
Duguetia spixiana
Duguetia stenantha
Uvaria cordata
Uvaria hirsuta
Annona sp. Brazil
Duguetia echinophora
Annona monticola
Annona jahnii
Annona paludosa
Annona testudinea
Annona sp. (aff. excellens)
Annona holosericea
Duguetia confusa
Monodora myristica
Annona coriacea
Annona amambayensis
Sapranthus campechianus
Annona amazonica
Sapranthus violaceus
Dasymachalon lomentaceum

If you are interested, I can send you a photo of each plant you are going to buy.

PM to me!!!

Ciao!

Giampaolo




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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: LF Annona jamaicensis
« on: May 29, 2023, 12:20:37 PM »
To all people travelling to Jamaica: if anybody is travelling there in the next weeks please get in touch with me! I have found fresh seed of A.jamaicensis. But I need help now.

Thanks

Giampaolo

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This is definitely a collector's item and not an easy one to germinate. Anyway it worth to get it: you can apply to the auction!




Bellamy Trees recently sold this species (and for a bit more of a reasonable price!); unfortunately, my seeds didnt germinate, for whatever reason. I know some people had successful germination though.

Definitely a beautiful specimen. Would love to see it available in the States.

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Guys, if there is one Sapotaceae lover in this group then you cannot miss the chance to buy this super-rare Treasure from a friend of mine!

If only I could have more space in my garden...

https://www.botanicswap.com/catalog/plant/2ad9c3a5-31da-487a-bbe2-60a51dd93a52


Do you remember the specie?
No?
This is what I mean, have a look:

https://gardendrum.com/2015/08/09/chrysophyllum-imperiale-a-right-royal-tree/


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My annonaceae some pictures
« on: January 08, 2023, 01:45:04 PM »
Ciao Maurizio, le foto delle dumetorum on mi tornano:

Se guardi l'immagine dell'exsiccata in allegato sembra decisamente differente da quelle che hai fotografato. Possibile che sia un'altra specie? Magari una simile alla salicifolia?

 


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Hello to all,

Yes, i still have a lot of email awaiting a reply. I try to not forget anyone ;D


Hi Richard, I dropped an email to you. Please reply to me, I have something interesting for you to talk about.

All the best,

Giampaolo

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I figure i could sell some seeds cover some costs for this hobby and help you guys get more rare stuff. Some of these seeds may come from my own plants, supermarket or street market fruit, street trees, seed banks and so on. It will start cheap and prices may or may not increase on demand but this may be a one time thing or maybe a few times per year, don't know yet. Will be totally transparent with everything. It's better if you have a permit I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT PART that i must say.

This is a possible total list that will grow soon(not everything that is available right now) meaning THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL THREAD TO BUY YET. Just to know if someone is interested.

Averrhoa Carambola=Carambola
Averrhoa Bilimbi=Bilimbi
Annona Muricata=Guanabana/Soursop
Annona Reticulata=Mamon/Custard's apple
Annona Glabra=Baga/Pond Apple
Annona Urbaniana=Mamon de perro(translation a custard apple for dogs xD)
Annona Montana=Mountain Soursop
Bixa Orellana=Bija/Bixa
Chrysophyllum Cainito=Caimito
Chrysophyllum Oliviforme=Caimito de perro(translation a caimito for dogs)
Chrysobalanus Icaco=Icaco
Coccoloba Uvifera=Uva de playa/Sea grape
Cordia Sebestena=Geiger Tree
Crescentia Cujete=Higuero/Calabash Tree
Eugenia Monticola=Arrayan
Eugenia Uniflora=Pitanga
Eugenia Domingensis=Guazara
Eugenia Ligustrina=Privet Stopper
Rollinia Mucosa(wild seedy type)=Candongo
Genipa Americana=Jagua/Genip
Pouteria Sapota=Zapote/Mamey Sapote
Pouteria Domingensis=Totuma
Pouteria Dictyoneura=Cuero de Cerdo(translation pig skin)
Pithecellobium Dulce=Jina Extranjera/Guachumil
Manilkara Zapota=Nispero
Guazuma Spp=Guacima
Morinda Citrifolia=Noni
Mammea Americana=Mamey
Diospyros digyna=Zapote Negro/Black Sapote
Bucida Buceras=Gri Gri
Bursera Simaruba=Almacigo
Theobroma Cacao=Chocolate
Wallenia spp=Caimoni Nativo
Neem
Vegetable seeds
more to come soon

Let me know if you have ideas ty.


Hi, I'm interested in 20 seeds of Annona urbaniana and also to the followings:

Annona rosei
Annona bicolor
Annona haitiensis
Annona salicifolia
Annona gracilis
Annona moaensis

I'm also available to exchange with other rare Annona species.

PM to me !

Thanks

Giampaolo


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: LF Annona jamaicensis
« on: March 08, 2022, 02:10:47 PM »
ONLY FOR RESIDENT: if somebody is interested, get in touch with me. I have contacts there who have this specie available and exact position of fruits of A.jamaicensis.

Thanks

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona nitida & Annona amazonica
« on: February 27, 2022, 01:44:56 PM »
Giampaolo,

What is the shipping cost for these seeds, please?.

Please advise.

Paul M.
==


Hi Paul, where are you from? PM to me!

Thanks

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Annona nitida & Annona amazonica
« on: February 26, 2022, 11:01:16 AM »

To all collectors, I have available very fresh Annona nitida seeds and Annona amazonica.
both fruits coming from deep forest of Peru. They have amazing white and yellow pulp.

if you are interested to buy some PM to me. Only three Euro per seed!

cheers

Giampaolo












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PM to me. I have some species available by now

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 11, 2022, 04:10:39 AM »
Hi tfb,

"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress" Joseph Joubert.
Sometime's I forget this, still learning as I go a long.

I looked back 3 pages of your post history and couldn't find the post about germinating the mentioned species, could find one post
from October 2017 about planting instructions of cerrado plants. I used ctrl-f with "germ" to find the keywords on the page. Maybe have to go further back? Would be great if you could help me out, would be helpful to me in the future :) I guess for me the concern would be to warm as I am 16 degrees of the equator and most germination takes place outside under my shade nursery either under glass or out of it (this is how I regualte humidity and temp usually).

Peace

Hi Cassowary, frankly I donìt remember when exactly I posted these tips. I'm just sure I've done because I got the request from two friends of mine who pleased me to do that at that time.

Then I don't want keep going chatting in this platform since takes much time and I rarely check this. You can get in touch with me directly here:

https://www.facebook.com/giampaolo.duran

feel free to contact me there and share green experiences as well as germination tips.

GD

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 09, 2022, 04:31:08 AM »
Doesn't sound like a bet to me... Why not keep it light tfb :)

Even if you got seeds from the same original source that does not equal that you sent seeds that where fresh and alive, your seeds might have germianted beaucse you sowed them when you first got them but mine not so cause they migh have been to old already when you sent them.
I think I gave you fair and objective feedback ( have said "think or suspect" where I am subjective"), can't make a excusse for that. Giving my experience, also said what was positive with dealing with you, communication and package.

Dear Cassowary, this is a speculation. Annonaceae seeds, except very rare cases, do not crash their viability in few weeks! I managed to germinate Annonas seeds even after 2 years from the crop. Obviously is always better to get fresh seed in order to have better germination rate and this is why I always propose fresh seeds. In any case, this become less material if you miss the right balance humidity/temperature/soil required by each specie in order to germinate. Said so, experience has taught me to be much more self-critical about sowing methods rather than always pointing the finger at the quality of the seeds when something goes wrong.


Didn't ask for a refund as there is always risk and I have not said blame is on you, I said I have had very good success with other annonace and for me it's an anamoly to see close to 0% germination of all species of all of the seeds I got from you.

Then you learn this is not an anomaly: some Annona species are not for beginners. In some cases, they are not easy to germinate even in their country of origin, imagine in another country where so many factors that can be decisive for results change. In reality, a lot depends on your ability to replicate these factors in an environment other than that of origin. 

Why couldn't you give your germination methods to customers or post them publicly? Wouldn't that help others preserve the species better then?

I already did at least in two different post time ago. Sorry if you missed but you can search for it. In any case is a good practice asking the seller for any tips & tricks for gemination

"just to save rare species giving economic help to local explorers pursuing their discoveries" I think anyone buying this kind of seeds do that automatically pretty much, not limited to you. Not throwing an adhominem to you, just voicing what I see is a common spirit on this forum.
But I have never questioned your motives or ambitions just the seeds condition upon departure from you. I am sure you are a great human and you where always kind and professional in chat with me.

Just ot be clear: this is NOT true. I have several contacts as well as few friends and collectors in this platform who do it exclusively for cash. This is a business and not all are in line with social & enviromental purposes. Personally, I prefer to share and buy & sell from and to people who share my values close to protection and preservation of the species biodiversity.


Atleast I got to document the look of the seeds so that I can tell real from fakes in the future or while foraging. I never daubt that you sent wrong seeds, only the opposite. Thank you for that :)

If in the next sowing of Annona nitida I manage to germinate some seeds, I will send you some. So I hope you won't be disappointed again.


Peace.

This sentence fits perfect for Annonaceae: "Patience is not the ability to wait, but the ability to keep a good attitude while waiting"

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 07, 2022, 11:16:02 AM »
Thanks for taking your time and sharing that :)

Dear Cassowary, since you have so many doubts about the freshness and viability of the seeds I had for sale, and considering the source of Akanonui is the same source of mine and taken into account I always sold seed of good quality not for profit but just to save rare species giving economic help to local explorers pursuing their discoveries, then let's make a bet: if you give proof of better germination results than me with Annona nitida in your next order placed to your new source, then I refund you all you spent in your order. But in case not, then you make public excuses to me. Fine for you?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 07, 2022, 10:56:15 AM »
I had low germination rate as well, while curiously I got 2/3 of my hypoglauca seeds to sprout from a seller directly in Peru. HOWEVER this is not a complaint against Giampaolo I would still buy from him, this is just something that is part of the gamble when buying tropical seeds online. I find it’s always better results buying directly from sellers in the country of origin just by nature of how fresh those seeds ought to be
I am not sure which seeds you bought, but in my experience the tinier the seeds of an Annona species, the harder they are to germinate. On the other hand, if you put many tiny seeds in a small pot, they seem to stimulate each other.

Since not all of the species have super tiny seeds, you should also be aware of the biology of the offered species as they are very specialized rain forest species.

Annona hypoglauca for example is said to have an only 5% germination rate and is spread by fishs. Their germination might profit from a chemical compound, that is found within the gastro intestinal system of the fishs.
Annona nitida on the other hand has a special seed coat/parenchyma, that allows the seeds to float over very long distances during the rain season, without soaking with water risking early germination. I received the hint to really grind the seed coat with sand paper and let them soak, maybe even in GA3, until you can see the seeds inflated.

However these are just my two cents on this subject. But what I can tell for sure is, that from the many conversations I had with him, I can tell, that he is very concerned about the future of the Annonaceae rainforest species. He really wants to spread them as far as possible. So there would be no interest on his side to sell old seeds in my opinion.

Hi Akanonui, most Annonaceae are easy to germinate while other are few are very difficult beacuse I empirically found out they need the exact mix of conditions, including microorganism, which can catalyze the germination process. Those rare Annonas unfortunately represent really a gamble! Since it's a try every time. THe same happpened to me with Annonaglauca from Africa. An ultra rare one which I spent almost a year in order to get the germination of some seedlings. But they worth to do it: I had the opportunity to save from extinction a ultra rare specie really endangered. Some Annona are not for people pretending to get result easily at the very first try.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 07, 2022, 10:46:55 AM »
I can agree with Saltmans observation-

I am nearing 50 Annona paludosa planted with no sprouts- the seeds are coming from Richard and everything else sprouts so I have no doubt they are fresh

Annona are tricky, How was your germination Giampaolo?

Hi Elouicious,

all I had germinated except the Annona nitida. But this is for sure due to a specie very difficult to find the right balance in envieronmental conditions, that's why I'm gonna try again! ;-)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 07, 2022, 10:42:22 AM »
I am not sure which seeds you bought, but in my experience the tinier the seeds of an Annona species, the harder they are to germinate. On the other hand, if you put many tiny seeds in a small pot, they seem to stimulate each other.

Since not all of the species have super tiny seeds, you should also be aware of the biology of the offered species as they are very specialized rain forest species.

Annona hypoglauca for example is said to have an only 5% germination rate and is spread by fishs. Their germination might profit from a chemical compound, that is found within the gastro intestinal system of the fishs.
Annona nitida on the other hand has a special seed coat/parenchyma, that allows the seeds to float over very long distances during the rain season, without soaking with water risking early germination. I received the hint to really grind the seed coat with sand paper and let them soak, maybe even in GA3, until you can see the seeds inflated.

However these are just my two cents on this subject. But what I can tell for sure is, that from the many conversations I had with him, I can tell, that he is very concerned about the future of the Annonaceae rainforest species. He really wants to spread them as far as possible. So there would be no interest on his side to sell old seeds in my opinion.

You are right. please read the answer I gave back to Cassowary as well. Some Annonaceae are really NOT for beginners, or, in other words, you must be prepared to have a try many times for some species. This already happened to me with Annona glauca: I lost at least 100 seeds before getting appreciable results.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare Annonaceae seeds sales!!!
« on: February 07, 2022, 10:37:38 AM »
Seeds received well packaged and good communication by tfb.
I only had one seed germinate out of the lot I got. One A. edulis and it was quite weak.
So I am not sure how fresh the seeds I got where.
Have had great success with illama and other annonace since then and before so I don't think it's my method that is completely flawed.

Dear Cassowary, as I said many times ago, there are species of Annonaceae that are not for beginners. The Annona nitida is probably one of them. The same question you made, If seeds are in their perfect conditions of temperature/soil/humidity mix may have lower probabilities of germination. Said that, I also didn't have the chance to get seedling from my past experiences. It happened exactly the same to my Annona glauca I had years ago: the seeds were very fresh and in perfect shape, but very few seeds found the perfect mix conditionsie in order to germinate. Anyway, alsop in that case, this was absolutely a specie worth to try again!

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Updated info!

Thanks

Giampaolo

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 Dear friends and collectors,

this is the first and last call after the auction closed recently where most collectors concentrated their efforts in few species. But many other species deserve your attention: among them, A.longiflora and its magnificent flowers and fruits, the tasty A.herzogii fruits, the well known A.macroprophyllata white and the ultra rare Sapranthus violaceus, not speaking about the incredible Musa ingens!

If you are interested to buy some, this can be a great chance to get a bunch of rarities at a fair price. For a single plant, the cost will be flat to the reserve price. If you purchase more, then we can agree further discounts depending on quantities.

Here below the list and photos of the great opportunities still availble for sale:

A.sclerophylla: N°4 and N°5
A.longiflora: N°2, N°3, N°4, N°8
Annona macroprophyllata white: N°2, N°4, N°5
Annona herzogii: N°1, N°2, N°4, N°5, N°6, N°7
Annona sp. Mexico white: N°3, N°4
Annona squamosa yellow-pink Mexico: N°2
Sapranthus violaceus: N°1, N°2, N°3, N°6, N°7, N°8, N°9, N°10, N°11, N°12
Musa ingens: few plants available

Don't forget to email me at darthpaul75@hotmail.com indicating the list of the plants you want to buy including your address.

Thanks!

































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Hi Richard, did oyu receive my email?

Thanks

Giampaolo

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