Cocktail Loquat

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I tried grafting 4 loquats. The only one loquat that took was the one that I left the bottom leaves on the original rootstock. All the loquats I removed the leaves on are just stagnant 3 months later. Not even pushing out new leaves....

Anyone had similar experience?

ya i heard cookiemonster say this (if i'm not mistaken?)

I've not had this experience myself...

I don't usually leave foliage on the rootstock...as you can tell from the pics.

[Viking Guy]

I may be wrong, but if I am not mistaken, Loquats naturally absorb their lower leaves and growths and use the energy to promote newer vertical growth.  I was told if you pull that lower growth off, then you rob the tree of energy and slow or stunt its growth.

Watching my loquat, I have never pruned it once and it did precisely that.  Grows taller, and for every 3 feet or so of vertical growth, it sacks a good 6-12" of growth from the root upward--both leaves and smaller branches.

At first i thought the tree was sick and losing leaves, but apparently its the natural process it uses to grow taller with evenly spaced branching and perfect trunk.

[Viking Guy]

Perfect.  My loquat stands about 16' at the moment.  Since it is a seedling, it probably wont produce for another 5+ years.

Let me know what scions you have available, what the costs are, and I'll probably take some of each.

I was told you are the guy to go to for loquat scions.

I purchased a supposed Wolfe, but turns out it is a seedling.  I'd like to take advantage of the beautiful tree though, and add varieties to it.

What do you recommend?

out of my collection I'd say go for Avri, Tori, Novak, Xmas, and Aiden.

also have Puppelo (white flesh variety, excellent acid sweet balance, medium size fruit)

vista white (white flesh, very sweet)

still waiting on my Peluche to fruit...ive sold scions and now the scions are flowering, but my mother tree hasn't flowered...the leaves are very large, deeply serrated, and the fruit is supposed to be a beast...bigger than any other loquat i've seen...but I have yet to see for myself...scions are available though.

Aiden has been highly requested, I need to gather scions...my only tree is too small to get scions from.  I'm hoping to get some scions asap..and pics of the mother tree with fruits...its holding a nice crop now..it's the largest fruited cultivar i've seen to date in person.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

oops wrong post!

[michsu]

I actually grew a loquat from seed and it started to fruit a lot this year.. and it's pretty big as well.. We got the seeds from a neighbor who gave us the fruit and said it was very good.. I hope that loquats come true to seed.. or similar to that..  it doubled in size just this last year.. it added all that top part since last month.. I don't remove the lower leaves and just let it do its thing (I would have to trim it after fruiting this year if it gets any bigger).. so you don't seem to need 5 years just to make it fruit from a seedling..

[gnappi]

I hear also that loquats can be air layered. I tried only once and they didn't take. Loquats starting to fruit here now.

I saw a video of a guy putting loquat scions dipped in water and rooting hormone directly into pots sunk 3" deep and he claimed 50% successful rooting in around a month!

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I have airlayered loquat successfully many times

It takes a good 2-3 months to root

I'd be surprised if you can root a cutting in less time.

I hear also that loquats can be air layered. I tried only once and they didn't take. Loquats starting to fruit here now.

I saw a video of a guy putting loquat scions dipped in water and rooting hormone directly into pots sunk 3" deep and he claimed 50% successful rooting in around a month!

[gnappi]

I have airlayered loquat successfully many times

It takes a good 2-3 months to root

I'd be surprised if you can root a cutting in less time.

I hear also that loquats can be air layered. I tried only once and they didn't take. Loquats starting to fruit here now.

Well, I have that new big loquat that needs a haircut, I have rooting hormone, pots and maybe 8 cuttings. If he's right I should be reporting back in a month or so that I have 4 that have rooted.

When you air layer, do you use rooting hormone or just covered moss?

[FlyingFoxFruits]

good luck with your experiment!

thanks for sharing the results with us here.

yes, i used plastic wrap, blonde sphagnum peat, and some type of cheap hormone sold by Dyna-gro called KLN...

I have airlayered loquat successfully many times

It takes a good 2-3 months to root

I'd be surprised if you can root a cutting in less time.

I hear also that loquats can be air layered. I tried only once and they didn't take. Loquats starting to fruit here now.

Well, I have that new big loquat that needs a haircut, I have rooting hormone, pots and maybe 8 cuttings. If he's right I should be reporting back is a month or so that I have 4 that have rooted.

When you air layer, do you use rooting hormone or just covered moss?

[gnappi]

Here's a link to the rooting method I saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcnIXQOD7kU

[FlyingFoxFruits]

thanks for sharing....It would have been nice to see him post an update to see how many rooted, and how long it took.   but roots in one month would be surprising!  (not saying it isn't possible, but i've never been able to get roots that fast)

(haha he was saying that was a big loquat tree....that was a runt)

Here's a link to the rooting method I saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcnIXQOD7kU

[FruitFreak]

Adam, what time of year did you air layer your quat?  I tried a nice air layer about 1.5" dia same method as you but it never took. Also, if I cut my tree back to 24" tall would new growths begin on top or would I loose my trunk and get a million suckers at the bottom?

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Adam, what time of year did you air layer your quat?  I tried a nice air layer about 1.5" dia same method as you but it never took. Also, if I cut my tree back to 24" tall would new growths begin on top or would I loose my trunk and get a million suckers at the bottom?

was during the warmer months, after spring into summer.

[FruitFreak]

My attempt was in after Summer...

[FlyingFoxFruits]

My attempt was in after Summer...

just noticed your other question...if you prune the tree it should branch at the top, if it tries to sucker, just remove the suckers.

[edself65]

I have several loquats grafted onto Quince BA 29 C rootstock. They are growing and fruiting well on the rootstock.

Ed

Loquats can be grafted onto pear and quince right?

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I never thought about it, but couldn't u graft on some apples with the loquat on the quince rootstock??

that would be interesting if you could manage to get fruits off both.

(im guessing one would try to out grow the other?)

I have several loquats grafted onto Quince BA 29 C rootstock. They are growing and fruiting well on the rootstock.

Ed

Loquats can be grafted onto pear and quince right?

[edself65]

I have several loquats grafted onto Quince BA 29 C rootstock. They are growing and fruiting well on the rootstock.

Ed

Loquats can be grafted onto pear and quince right?

[edself65]

Loquat chip bud.

[edself65]

More photos of loquat grafted on quince.

[darkcoolboo]

Where can I find seeds for this rootstock?

[edself65]

I order my quince rootstock from this nursery

http://www.treco.nu/Provence_Quince_BA29C.htm

Where can I find seeds for this rootstock?

[gnappi]

More photos of loquat grafted on quince.

I'm still trying to understand the rootstock selection for various zones, and I'm curious, why not graft on a Loquat seedling? Quince hardiness zone is 5-9 and Loquat 8-10. Does it get very cold where you are? I'm guessing even if it did, the tree top would die before the rootstock.

Or are you looking for a dwarfing effect on the tree?

[edself65]

I'm using the quince as rootstock so I will have a dwarf loquat. The dwarf tree is easier to protect the fruit thru the winter. The tree is hardy but some years we lose the fruit.
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I'm still trying to understand the rootstock selection for various zones, and I'm curious, why not graft on a Loquat seedling? Quince hardiness zone is 5-9 and Loquat 8-10. Does it get very cold where you are? I'm guessing even if it did, the tree top would die before the rootstock.

Or are you looking for a dwarfing effect on the tree?
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[FlyingFoxFruits]

so what's the good news?

any roots on those cuttings you took??

that would be excellent.

I have airlayered loquat successfully many times

It takes a good 2-3 months to root

I'd be surprised if you can root a cutting in less time.

I hear also that loquats can be air layered. I tried only once and they didn't take. Loquats starting to fruit here now.

Well, I have that new big loquat that needs a haircut, I have rooting hormone, pots and maybe 8 cuttings. If he's right I should be reporting back in a month or so that I have 4 that have rooted.

When you air layer, do you use rooting hormone or just covered moss?