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Title: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on November 25, 2020, 06:21:14 PM
Between the late cold and the late rains, our growing season was extended this year.  My Garcinias liked it though.

I was losing hope but it looks like we'll have a cold front next week.
Low 50s for a few days might be enough to get some flowers going in a few weeks. To bad half my trees have pretty recent flushes

I'll update near the end of December.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: FruitGrower on November 26, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
I had a little fruit set on a young Rosigold from the slight temp/ humidity change a couple of weeks ago but everything else here is dormant or recently flushed like yours.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5YkXDrJY/11708-F4-E-5-CD8-437-B-8341-FBB921263-A91.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YkXDrJY)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on November 26, 2020, 11:30:24 AM
Cool nights are coming next week!
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: saltyreefer on November 26, 2020, 06:30:58 PM
Upper 40's Brevard county fl. next week. Looking forward to it... ;D
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on November 26, 2020, 07:50:10 PM
In Wellington,  lows: Monday night in low 50s, Tuesday night in the mid 40s, and Saturday 12/5 thru Wedbesday 12/9 in the 50s
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on November 28, 2020, 10:00:08 AM
Upper 30's in central FL.  Monty, are you ready/excited?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on November 28, 2020, 10:15:09 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/DWHndDF3/20201125-163100.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWHndDF3)

Just leaving Panama City Beach Florida. Supposed to be 30 degrees Monday. Will get home just in time to bring soursop inside. Very unusual to have a full week of such beautiful weather up here in the Panhandle.We have had highs of 77 degrees all week. Thanksgiving day was the best it was awesome! :)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on November 30, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
Valencia pride has flush growth on the top 30% so we will see how flowering season goes with that tree
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd72xmBd/20201130-172425.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd72xmBd)
Most my other trees have remained dormant except sweet tart with a few flushes here and they're not too bad

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0JXMtTx/20201130-173010.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0JXMtTx)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on December 21, 2020, 09:14:41 AM
seeing a mixed flush on my NDM.
Angie and Zinc look like they're pushing
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on December 22, 2020, 03:46:50 PM
Got some action on Cac as well

I see buds pushing on OS, E-4, Pickering
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on December 22, 2020, 11:20:17 PM
Nothing so far for me perhaps early in the new year.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on December 23, 2020, 08:26:00 AM
I’d say close to half the trees are flowering now or look like they’re going to.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on December 23, 2020, 09:36:20 AM
Weatherman is saying coldest Christmas in 21 years.  This should help the mango trees, no?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: mangokothiyan on December 23, 2020, 10:39:57 AM

I see action on Himasagar, Maha Chanok, Angie, Carrie, Lemon Zest, Cotton Candy and Sunrise.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on December 23, 2020, 12:34:47 PM
Weatherman is saying coldest Christmas in 21 years.  This should help the mango trees, no?

Yes. What I’d really love to see is two consecutive, uninterrupted weeks where the nighttime temps drop below 60F. Give us that and pretty much every tree flowers.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on December 23, 2020, 03:51:17 PM
Weatherman is saying coldest Christmas in 21 years.  This should help the mango trees, no?

Yes. What I’d really love to see is two consecutive, uninterrupted weeks where the nighttime temps drop below 60F. Give us that and pretty much every tree flowers.
Now you're wishing for the impossible, but wouldn't that be glorious!
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 23, 2020, 04:41:33 PM
Weatherman is saying coldest Christmas in 21 years.  This should help the mango trees, no?
I don't know there may be snow. They're talkin 32° at my zip code. Does anyone remember what the weather was like this time last year in South Florida :)

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather-news/article238653443.html (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather-news/article238653443.html)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on December 23, 2020, 08:49:37 PM
Are any of you guys still fertilizing/drenching/foliar feeding?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 24, 2020, 10:15:33 AM
Are any of you guys still fertilizing/drenching/foliar feeding?
Most of my trees are of the size that I did not fertilize at all. Of the ones that are smaller I stop fertilizing in the last of August 1st of September because they need a period of dormancy. Most of my trees are showing beginning signs of pushing. I have my fingers crossed that they are pushing flowers I've had more than enough consecutive night below 60 degrees  to trigger them.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on December 24, 2020, 03:21:08 PM
Here is comes. 
I may have to move small pots indoors.  Nothing I can do for the large trees.  .. just hope it does not get too cold.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on December 24, 2020, 05:27:29 PM
Weatherman is saying coldest Christmas in 21 years.  This should help the mango trees, no?
I don't know there may be snow. They're talkin 32° at my zip code. Does anyone remember what the weather was like this time last year in South Florida :)

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather-news/article238653443.html (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather-news/article238653443.html)

Blizzard/whiteout conditions.   When all said and done, we had over 15" of snow.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on December 25, 2020, 10:22:19 AM
Colder in SoFlo than Boston today!
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on December 25, 2020, 10:27:37 AM
53F here & i don't want to go out to check what blew around last night.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 25, 2020, 10:39:51 AM
2019 was very windy and rainy to as I remember we were at Bradenton Beach. Did not get as cold as forecast last night thank goodness and they are revising forecast for tonight but I will still go through the drill.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on December 25, 2020, 11:07:57 AM
2019 was very windy and rainy to as I remember we were at Bradenton Beach. Did not get as cold as forecast last night thank goodness and they are revising forecast for tonight but I will still go through the drill.

I havent seen any revisions or talk of revising tonight's forecast.  Forecast low has been teetering between 37-38 here in Wellington for days and showing no change
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 25, 2020, 11:10:44 AM
Are any of you guys still fertilizing/drenching/foliar feeding?

I will defer to the wisdom of others. It seems like a product similar to this would be good for inducing mango flowering? I would think if applied in the early fall every other year ???
(https://i.postimg.cc/BtRvfgGY/s-l400-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BtRvfgGY)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on December 25, 2020, 11:27:02 AM
You can apply potassium and micros if you want.
Also spray sulfur to prevent PM would be a good idea, same goes for copper.

That being said, i hardly get a chance to do any of that, hopefully this year
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 25, 2020, 11:31:46 AM
2019 was very windy and rainy to as I remember we were at Bradenton Beach. Did not get as cold as forecast last night thank goodness and they are revising forecast for tonight but I will still go through the drill.

I havent seen any revisions or talk of revising tonight's forecast.  Forecast low has been teetering between 37-38 here in Wellington for days and showing no change

The forecast out of HoloPaw was 33 but has been revised to 35 but they may not be the most accurate
(https://i.postimg.cc/HJQpHDdB/iridescent-green-beetle-in-matchbox-S10-HK0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJQpHDdB)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on December 25, 2020, 10:29:48 PM
Its about 10:30 pm and temperatures is about 41 up in Jupiter Farms.
I expect we will be in the 30s just before sunrise.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 26, 2020, 12:36:12 AM
Yeah they say the low of 34 in my area but they just sent out a freeze advisory for 31 in some areas of my County
(https://i.postimg.cc/34NZJqKD/20201226-000218.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34NZJqKD)
If need be I will turn on the dryer vent around 4  am that should take care of the Pickering and the Dwarf Hawaiian
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on December 26, 2020, 07:33:51 AM
In my area a low temperature of 36 degrees seems to be the consensus of three different sources. Once again the tradition of beetle meteorological forecasting proves to be the most accurate.lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/FfD8Qp8Y/a3ea24b34a464ee27a5cbc7d590c0337.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FfD8Qp8Y)
Time for a nap :) :) :)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on December 28, 2020, 05:51:26 PM
.... and the award for first panicle of 2021 season in my yard goes to J-12 (Super Julie) ...

Look slike others are set to follow.  I am looking forward to a productive season with fingers crossed.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: LarryG on December 31, 2020, 09:20:39 AM
Of my 32 varieties, 9 are showing bloom, another 8 are pushing buds that will probably be bloom and the rest are still dormant. The first tree to bloom was Rosigold, followed by Nam Doc Mai, Fruit Punch, Edward, Bailey's Marvel, Sugar Loaf, Angie, Honey Kiss & Sweet Tart. Looking at photos of my trees on Christmas day, 2019, the bloom was several weeks earlier last year which is surprising since this year it seems cooler.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on December 31, 2020, 09:49:16 AM
Of my 32 varieties, 9 are showing bloom, another 8 are pushing buds that will probably be bloom and the rest are still dormant. The first tree to bloom was Rosigold, followed by Nam Doc Mai, Fruit Punch, Edward, Bailey's Marvel, Sugar Loaf, Angie, Honey Kiss & Sweet Tart. Looking at photos of my trees on Christmas day, 2019, the bloom was several weeks earlier last year which is surprising since this year it seems cooler.

Ya, roughly a half bloom.

I think this is our permanent new reality. Partial blooms/divided crops, because we just can’t get enough consecutive days of cool weather to stimulate a full bloom.

Hoping for a cold January.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on January 01, 2021, 11:18:30 PM
Baileys Marvel has bloomed first in my yard. A Nom doc Mai next door is blooming nicely. All of the Haden/Haden seedlings in my neighborhood are just starting to push out panicles.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on January 02, 2021, 10:32:32 AM
panicles popping on sugar loaf. glenn looks to be getting ready.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on January 05, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
My Sugarloaf is also blooming now, as well as my Keitt.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on January 05, 2021, 09:32:08 PM
Pretty much all the Sugarloaf trees are flowering now.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Scotthomestead on January 06, 2021, 06:30:03 AM
I’ve had 3 frost so far here in Highlands county, some burned leaves but no dead branches. So far my OS is the only one with visible flowers and the rest are just getting visible buds.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on January 06, 2021, 08:50:27 AM
Pretty much all the Sugarloaf trees are flowering now.

Sugarloaf is just sounding better and better
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JakeFruit on January 06, 2021, 09:45:17 AM
I'm seeing some partial blooming on trees around the Sarasota coastline, but nothing like what I saw last year after the first cold snap. Trees that were in full bloom last year after that one haven't pushed a single panicle yet. Maybe last year's multi-crop season took too much out of them, them seem stingy with the buds. I think they wanted to take this year off...
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: noochka1 on January 06, 2021, 01:39:41 PM
I'm just starting to see bloom in Miramar.  Jehangir is my first in flower this year.  Julie, Number 11, Banganapalli and Mahmood Vikarabad are also also sending out spikes, but not as profusely as Jehangir.  Nothing showing on the rest yet.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Jani on January 07, 2021, 10:41:04 PM
Curious...is #11 grafted here or a seedling from Jamaica?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Future on January 08, 2021, 11:13:27 AM
Curious...is #11 grafted here or a seedling from Jamaica?

Fairchild BG has grafted No. 11 and I imagine others do as well.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: noochka1 on January 10, 2021, 01:35:30 PM
I thought I had replied already, but I don't see it, so apparently I hallucinated that.  Number 11 is grafted.  Scions were sourced from USDA.  I have 2 branches on a multi-grafted tree.  Sorry for the late response :-(
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: fliptop on January 10, 2021, 06:38:26 PM
My M-4 and a mystery tree from Top Tropicals are pushing what appears to be mixed blooms.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XrsNnJKS/20210109-175244.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XrsNnJKS)


(https://i.postimg.cc/JH3mv47F/20210109-175226.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JH3mv47F)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on January 10, 2021, 09:56:40 PM
At least one of the “Number 11” trees in the Dade county collections (not sure if it’s Fairchild/USDA) is a fraud.

This is not the real Number 11:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nXQmjHCM/841-E1-A72-7966-49-F3-AEAD-47026-AA71-F00.png) (https://postimg.cc/nXQmjHCM)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on January 11, 2021, 08:46:11 PM
Who here went 1 day w/o working/inspecting mango buds forming/some ready to open.
Tis the season..
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: StPeteMango on January 11, 2021, 10:28:50 PM
NDM #4 beginning to panicle here in St. Pete. It better set some fruit after previous dud years, or the chainsaw is coming out. Pickering, Angie, Providence, Honey Kiss and Fairchild are showing signs of buds developing, but it will probably be a week more before the panicles emerge. We're a couple of weeks behind the folks in South Florida.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on January 12, 2021, 06:42:10 PM
Guava, Kesar, and NDM4 pushing now. More on Sugarloaf. Glenn and OS look to be starting as well.

Paid a chunk to have 2 palm trees chopped and 2 more trimmed, so lots more sun for some shy fruiting trees that were too shaded.

Have a feeling its going to be a sweet mango season.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on January 13, 2021, 01:17:27 PM
Guava, Kesar, and NDM4 pushing now. More on Sugarloaf. Glenn and OS look to be starting as well.

Paid a chunk to have 2 palm trees chopped and 2 more trimmed, so lots more sun for some shy fruiting trees that were too shaded.

Have a feeling its going to be a sweet mango season.

I agree, just about everything in my yard is pushing flowers now.
It might not be a complete bloom on every tree but i don't mind a staggered crop
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: FLnative on January 13, 2021, 01:53:01 PM
Same here with full blooms on:
Guava
(https://i.postimg.cc/RNtD11Vj/20210113-082826.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNtD11Vj)

Cotton Candy
(https://i.postimg.cc/McfMXGYb/20210113-082652.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McfMXGYb)

M 4
(https://i.postimg.cc/jDwPnvx7/20210113-082850.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDwPnvx7)

Maha Chanok
(https://i.postimg.cc/hz90zs0r/20210113-082804.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hz90zs0r)

Lemon Zest
(https://i.postimg.cc/9DrKR3wY/20210113-102550.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DrKR3wY)

Nam Doc Mai--no photo

Mango trees with partical blooms or just started: Pickering; Cac; Bombay; Honey Kiss; Lemon Meringue; and Sweet tart.

Besides the cooler weather it has been relatively dry here.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: noochka1 on January 13, 2021, 02:10:03 PM
At least one of the “Number 11” trees in the Dade county collections (not sure if it’s Fairchild/USDA) is a fraud.

This is not the real Number 11:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nXQmjHCM/841-E1-A72-7966-49-F3-AEAD-47026-AA71-F00.png) (https://postimg.cc/nXQmjHCM)

I hope USDA's Number 11 isn't a fraud.  Dr. Campbell donated it.  But I guess we'll see in a few months :-)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JakeFruit on January 13, 2021, 02:58:17 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/mt8pRs9J/D4-AF7-CF9-95-BB-47-FE-B536-1866-BE23-E1-B6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt8pRs9J)

So, (just my luck) looks like of all the varieties I grafted last season, the tiny ~2ft tall Honeykiss on a Kent seedling decided it would push a panicle. I top-worked a fairly large Ataulfo tree with Guava, Sweet tart, Duncan, Dwarf Hawaiian, Rosiegold, Pineapple Pleasure, Pickering, Lemon Zest, Sugarloaf and another unknown variety, all healthy takes with at least two growth flushes, not a single panicle. Looks like I’ll be mangoless again for another season, but the future looks bright...
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on January 13, 2021, 07:01:12 PM
Its not over yet, second and third flush could light up your top worked tree.  .. and lower risk of a rogue freeze late knocking off the fruit set.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 14, 2021, 10:07:37 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/mt8pRs9J/D4-AF7-CF9-95-BB-47-FE-B536-1866-BE23-E1-B6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt8pRs9J)

So, (just my luck) looks like of all the varieties I grafted last season, the tiny ~2ft tall Honeykiss on a Kent seedling decided it would push a panicle. I top-worked a fairly large Ataulfo tree with Guava, Sweet tart, Duncan, Dwarf Hawaiian, Rosiegold, Pineapple Pleasure, Pickering, Lemon Zest, Sugarloaf and another unknown variety, all healthy takes with at least two growth flushes, not a single panicle. Looks like I’ll be mangoless again for another season, but the future looks bright...

Thats waaaay too many varieties to topwork on one tree and not good with varying rates of growth habit from the different varieties.

I am not a fan of really having more than two varieties on one tree for a multitude of reasons but in any event, you should have varieties with similar growth habits.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on January 14, 2021, 12:10:27 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/mt8pRs9J/D4-AF7-CF9-95-BB-47-FE-B536-1866-BE23-E1-B6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt8pRs9J)

So, (just my luck) looks like of all the varieties I grafted last season, the tiny ~2ft tall Honeykiss on a Kent seedling decided it would push a panicle. I top-worked a fairly large Ataulfo tree with Guava, Sweet tart, Duncan, Dwarf Hawaiian, Rosiegold, Pineapple Pleasure, Pickering, Lemon Zest, Sugarloaf and another unknown variety, all healthy takes with at least two growth flushes, not a single panicle. Looks like I’ll be mangoless again for another season, but the future looks bright...

Thats waaaay too many varieties to topwork on one tree and not good with varying rates of growth habit from the different varieties.

I am not a fan of really having more than two varieties on one tree for a multitude of reasons but in any event, you should have varieties with similar growth habits.
Thanks Rob I've been asking that question and have not received a good answer. How many grafts of each variety would you graft just for a couple of people? I've been told the fallacy that the host tree will tame the grafted variety. Is that just wishful thinking?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JakeFruit on January 14, 2021, 12:33:36 PM
Yeah, not planning on keeping them all on the tree long-term, it kinda just happened. I ran out of seedlings to graft to and started grafting extras onto the Ataulfo I was top-working. Everything took when I grafted to the tree, it's amazing how much easier it is to graft to a vigorous tree versus a seedling. Using it as a stationing location for now; next season I'll take scions from the varieties on the tree and graft to a few dozen seedlings I started last season, then I'll assess what I want to leave on the tree. I can already tell Sweet tart would take everything over in short order, it's doubling/tripling the growth of most the rest.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on January 14, 2021, 05:32:27 PM
I never grafted, plan to change that this summer.  FLnative, i might need u to snip 1 piece of all your trees for me this summer.
Jakefruit, vigorous host you say's best?  I have big ol Kent i constantly prune summer/fall that has plenty of branches i'd try grafting to.

2021 bud action- i just checked for anthracnose & saw lots more buds & spikes since 2 days ago, anthracnose too!  Gave it a quick mild copper spray.  Over the past 6 months i fed it quite well with fert & foliar.  Fingers crossed if i keep anthracnose & powdery mildew in check, this will be good year. 
mother nature decides
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JakeFruit on January 14, 2021, 09:43:22 PM
Well, I only have this one tree to compare it to, but scions grafted to it last season pushed days/weeks sooner than grafts to seedlings and they never failed after the first push (3 attempts did fail to take, but that's out of .15 or so attempts). I imagine a less vigorous tree wouldn't be quite as easy, but your Kent should be similar.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on January 14, 2021, 10:38:47 PM
Jakefruit, this is tree.  I prune the heck out of it every yr.
This summer it'd be fun to try a few great varieties on it.
It grows orange sticky flesh with fiber, makes puddle in dish to drink.
(https://i.postimg.cc/NKzWBbvH/IMG-3206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKzWBbvH)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JakeFruit on January 15, 2021, 08:40:27 AM
Wow, really nice looking tree. I'd be happy to give you my suggestions (you'll probably get others' ideas, too), but we are highjacking the current topic a bit. Start a new thread in the forum (title it, "How should I topic work my Kent mango tree" or something similar), be sure to post this same picture again in it and I'll give you my opinion.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 16, 2021, 01:28:07 PM
E4 - full bloom
Pina Colada - full bloom
OS (from Cookie) - full bloom
Peach Cobbler - partial bloom
Sweet Tart - partial bloom
Guava  - just starting full bloom
Yi Xaun - full bloom (potentially its last season, do or die)
Pineapple Pleasure - partial bloom
M4 - partial bloom
Spirit of 76 - full bloom
Juicy Peach  - partial bloom
Cotton Candy  - full bloom
Phoenix - partial bloom with more on the way
Amy - just starting to push blooms

Everything else is still on pause
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on January 16, 2021, 01:49:26 PM
How's anthracnose for you guys?  It won't quit on large Kent.  Quick copper spray again shortly.
Small Pickering, Fruit cocktail, Maha Chanok's clean.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on January 16, 2021, 03:13:53 PM
Yeah, not planning on keeping them all on the tree long-term, it kinda just happened. I ran out of seedlings to graft to and started grafting extras onto the Ataulfo I was top-working. Everything took when I grafted to the tree, it's amazing how much easier it is to graft to a vigorous tree versus a seedling. Using it as a stationing location for now; next season I'll take scions from the varieties on the tree and graft to a few dozen seedlings I started last season, then I'll assess what I want to leave on the tree. I can already tell Sweet tart would take everything over in short order, it's doubling/tripling the growth of most the rest.
I have one like yours, I call it a "nurse tree" and it holds everything until I can find a "forever" spot for them.
Rob is right though, some varieties shade out others and unless you transfer some quickly you, they will be crowded out by more vigorous varieties. 

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 16, 2021, 07:09:32 PM
How's anthracnose for you guys?  It won't quit on large Kent.  Quick copper spray again shortly.
Small Pickering, Fruit cocktail, Maha Chanok's clean.

No issues in Wellington.  I do have good open airflow around my trees.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 16, 2021, 07:10:42 PM
How's anthracnose for you guys?  It won't quit on large Kent.  Quick copper spray again shortly.
Small Pickering, Fruit cocktail, Maha Chanok's clean.

Kent is a mess, disease-wise.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on January 16, 2021, 07:45:22 PM
I’ve got partial bloom on 3 of my young trees:
Question: Why are the first Panicles on the shaded side of each tree(NE side on all 3 trees) and on the lower, smaller  branch on each tree? Is this common, a pattern or coincidence? Each tree is grafted and all branches are far above the grafts. Cultivars are E4, Baileys Marvel and Keitt.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on January 16, 2021, 07:47:04 PM
Rob, good to know it's not all my fault.  Keeping it as privacy hedge i know is, feeding anthracnose.
It's my first home grown gateway mango.  I never liked mangos, store fruit should come with warning label lol.
So looking forward to enjoying what i get from it!  Eventually i'll start thread for grafting on it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/21bHj8c2/IMG-3272.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21bHj8c2)

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Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on January 17, 2021, 08:03:41 AM
I’ve got partial bloom on 3 of my young trees:
Question: Why are the first Panicles on the shaded side of each tree(NE side on all 3 trees) and on the lower, smaller  branch on each tree? Is this common, a pattern or coincidence? Each tree is grafted and all branches are far above the grafts. Cultivars are E4, Baileys Marvel and Keitt.
First, I have not made that observation as a rule though I have seen flowering low on some trees.

This is just a WAG, but colder air sinks and the lower part of your trees may have seen just enough cold stimulus.
Also during a cold front which direction does the wind blow in your yard?  Are the trees in a depressed location?  and are there any wind breaks or heat sources such as home close to the non flowering side?

I am curious to hear what others have to say.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on January 17, 2021, 08:33:52 AM
I’ve got partial bloom on 3 of my young trees:
Question: Why are the first Panicles on the shaded side of each tree(NE side on all 3 trees) and on the lower, smaller  branch on each tree? Is this common, a pattern or coincidence? Each tree is grafted and all branches are far above the grafts. Cultivars are E4, Baileys Marvel and Keitt.
First, I have not made that observation as a rule though I have seen flowering low on some trees.

This is just a WAG, but colder air sinks and the lower part of your trees may have seen just enough cold stimulus.
Also during a cold front which direction does the wind blow in your yard?  Are the trees in a depressed location?  and are there any wind breaks or heat sources such as home close to the non flowering side?

I am curious to hear what others have to say.
I have been scratching my head wondering the same thing. My sweet tart is flowering on the North side. It is on the south side of my house out about 20 ft protected from the north wind. It started flowering on North shaded Side Lower branches first  I did get a ladder and look down and there is some on top sort of on the North side huh. I just went out and inspected the Southside not much activity yet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/F7NShwKP/20210116-085344.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7NShwKP)
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Forced labor as a result of leaving the gate open and letting the poodle roll around in beggar's lice >:(  :(

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Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on January 17, 2021, 09:26:18 AM
The temperatures in south Florida have been/are looking favorable enough that we should see a major response from the trees in February that haven’t already flowered.

Depending on fruit set, this could mean the best bloom since 2015 and maybe since 2009 (an all time season).

For perspective, we’ve only had two good mango seasons since 2009: 2015 and 2017. The rest of them I’d grade as average or subpar.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on January 17, 2021, 07:49:29 PM
I’ve got partial bloom on 3 of my young trees:
Question: Why are the first Panicles on the shaded side of each tree(NE side on all 3 trees) and on the lower, smaller  branch on each tree? Is this common, a pattern or coincidence? Each tree is grafted and all branches are far above the grafts. Cultivars are E4, Baileys Marvel and Keitt.
First, I have not made that observation as a rule though I have seen flowering low on some trees.

This is just a WAG, but colder air sinks and the lower part of your trees may have seen just enough cold stimulus.
Also during a cold front which direction does the wind blow in your yard?  Are the trees in a depressed location?  and are there any wind breaks or heat sources such as home close to the non flowering side?

I am curious to hear what others have to say.
I have been scratching my head wondering the same thing. My sweet tart is flowering on the North side. It is on the south side of my house out about 20 ft protected from the north wind. It started flowering on North shaded Side Lower branches first  I did get a ladder and look down and there is some on top sort of on the North side huh. I just went out and inspected the Southside not much activity yet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/F7NShwKP/20210116-085344.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7NShwKP)
(https://i.postimg.cc/m1cfFTBQ/20210117-085610.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1cfFTBQ)

Forced labor as a result of leaving the gate open and letting the poodle roll around in beggar's lice >:(  :(

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My yard is dedicated solely to my mango trees so they are all spaced at least 15 ft apart in two rows. There are no heat sources, and all of the flowers all sit on the leeward side of the trees on a NW wind from a cold front. The biggest variables may be the sun heating the other side of the trees and/or your great theory of the lower, colder air. Thanks for the interesting input.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 17, 2021, 08:56:00 PM
E4 - full bloom
Pina Colada - full bloom
OS (from Cookie) - full bloom
Peach Cobbler - partial bloom
Sweet Tart - partial bloom
Guava  - just starting full bloom
Yi Xaun - full bloom (potentially its last season, do or die)
Pineapple Pleasure - partial bloom
M4 - partial bloom
Spirit of 76 - full bloom
Juicy Peach  - partial bloom
Cotton Candy  - full bloom
Phoenix - partial bloom with more on the way
Amy - just starting to push blooms

Everything else is still on pause

Son Pari is starting to bloom out
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on January 17, 2021, 11:16:24 PM
E4 - full bloom
Pina Colada - full bloom
OS (from Cookie) - full bloom
Peach Cobbler - partial bloom
Sweet Tart - partial bloom
Guava  - just starting full bloom
Yi Xaun - full bloom (potentially its last season, do or die)
Pineapple Pleasure - partial bloom
M4 - partial bloom
Spirit of 76 - full bloom
Juicy Peach  - partial bloom
Cotton Candy  - full bloom
Phoenix - partial bloom with more on the way
Amy - just starting to push blooms

Everything else is still on pause

Son Pari is starting to bloom out
Nice.  It looks like your trees are finally kicking in.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: TonyinCC on January 19, 2021, 08:02:22 PM
My son ate our first mango of the year today, Jan 19 . It was a tiny Maha Chanok about 3 inches long. I was expecting it to be a seedless fruit since it was so small, but it had a seed... I plan on de-fruiting my other Maha tree until Summer.  It is just starting to push bloom buds now.  Hoping for an off season crop late this year or early next from a late Summer/early Fall bloom.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 19, 2021, 08:58:42 PM
My son ate our first mango of the year today, Jan 19 . It was a tiny Maha Chanok about 3 inches long. I was expecting it to be a seedless fruit since it was so small, but it had a seed... I plan on de-fruiting my other Maha tree until Summer.  It is just starting to push bloom buds now.  Hoping for an off season crop late this year or early next from a late Summer/early Fall bloom.

Rolling the dice, huh?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: TonyinCC on January 20, 2021, 08:48:38 AM
I finally have enough other mango trees bearing that it is worth a roll of the dice to get off season fruit. Hoping I can sync both Mahas to bear off season every year.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 20, 2021, 09:57:40 AM
I finally have enough other mango trees bearing that it is worth a roll of the dice to get off season fruit. Hoping I can sync both Mahas to bear off season every year.

How did the off season compare to summer fruit?  I would think the cooler temps would have had a negative effect but less rain a benefit...
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: TonyinCC on January 20, 2021, 02:06:31 PM
Last Summer Maha in my yard was exceptional. The off season fruit was about like an average Summertime Maha. I had some Maha in mid December too, just one fruit yesterday.(Pretty good but there are other better Summer mangos)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on January 20, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
I finally have enough other mango trees bearing that it is worth a roll of the dice to get off season fruit. Hoping I can sync both Mahas to bear off season every year.

Good idea,
I might try this with a decent portion of my NDM.
They tend to get neglected when the season is going.

Do you just clip off the branch when there are little fruitlets on it?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: TonyinCC on January 21, 2021, 08:17:10 AM
Yes you cut off the bloom panicles at that point but you might have to do it several times as it will attempt to re-bloom almost right away. Not sure if the the entire tree needs to be de-fruited or if it can be done branch by branch. Anyone have an idea? Might only be practical on trees kept small if the whole tree needs to be de-fruited. Even shifting the season by a couple weeks by de-fruiting once might solve a mango glut by spreading harvests out.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on January 30, 2021, 02:02:56 PM
I'm ready to put Mangostition aside and Crow from the rooftop. My orange sherbet is at 100% flowering. Last season was very disappointing. Could have been more of a maturity issue because we had plenty of cool nights. Most of my trees have flowered the only things of special note is Neelam seems unfazed by 60 days below 60 degrees. M4 and honey kiss starting to push flowers. Sweet tart has fully flowered on North shaded side just starting to push on Southern Sunnyside. If this is a trend I like it :) As I travel through Osceola County I would say the trees are at 50% bloom
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Orange sherbet
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 30, 2021, 02:22:16 PM
I'm ready to put Mangostition aside and Crow from the rooftop. My orange sherbet is at 100% flowering. Last season was very disappointing. Could have been more of a maturity issue because we had plenty of cool nights. Most of my trees have flowered the only things of special note is Neelam seems unfazed by 60 days below 60 degrees. M4 and honey kiss starting to push flowers. Sweet tart has fully flowered on North shaded side just starting to push on Southern Sunnyside. If this is a trend I like it :) As I travel through Osceola County I would say the trees are at 50% bloom
(https://i.postimg.cc/jWC7LS9n/20210130-133149.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWC7LS9n)
Orange sherbet

I would let that tree sacrifice any fruits so it can mature another year.  Its a marathon,  not a sprint...
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 30, 2021, 02:26:19 PM
My Ambika finally has swelling buds.  Crossing fingers.  Taralay has swelling buds, too.

Only trees that are not doing anything are Fairchild, Karen Michelle and M. siamensis but I am ok with that as these have only been in ground from 3 gal for 1-2 years.  Creme Brulee also not doing anything but its still in a 3 gal pot (will go in ground at any time).
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on January 30, 2021, 02:39:33 PM
I'm ready to put Mangostition aside and Crow from the rooftop. My orange sherbet is at 100% flowering. Last season was very disappointing. Could have been more of a maturity issue because we had plenty of cool nights. Most of my trees have flowered the only things of special note is Neelam seems unfazed by 60 days below 60 degrees. M4 and honey kiss starting to push flowers. Sweet tart has fully flowered on North shaded side just starting to push on Southern Sunnyside. If this is a trend I like it :) As I travel through Osceola County I would say the trees are at 50% bloom
(https://i.postimg.cc/jWC7LS9n/20210130-133149.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWC7LS9n)
Orange sherbet

I would let that tree sacrifice any fruits so it can mature another year.  Its a marathon,  not a sprint...
I may just do that because it seems as though there should be plenty in South Florida to purchase. As long as I do not touch the Julie mango tree I will be fine but if I do I will get slapped with the broad side  of a Cutlass.  >:(  :o

Ps have not heard anyone mention lemon zest flowering would like to try one
I paid $50 for an orange sherbet last season and received a diamond instead :P
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on January 30, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
My LZ is doing absolutely nothing for the second straight year  (4 years in ground from a 3 gal).
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on January 30, 2021, 03:56:43 PM
My LZ is doing absolutely nothing for the second straight year  (4 years in ground from a 3 gal).
That was my way of asking about your LZ tree without directly doing so in case it was a sore subject

Not trying to be silly cuz I'm pretty much serious at all times :)  What if you drink lime flavored cerveza beer and urinated on that LZ Tree during a full moon. Hey I'm sure crazier things have been tried and it would probably make you feel better.Lol
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: kapps on January 30, 2021, 06:07:52 PM
This will hopefully be my first year with mangos. I have a seedling from a grocery store mango that’s been in the ground since 2017. In November 2019, I grafted Cogshall and Fruit Punch on it (and a couple others that didn’t take. Cogshall took off and is 95% of the tree while Fruit Punch grew 4” and then stopped.  Cogshall has all of its 10 or so growing tips going to bloom and Fruit Punch has its single growing tip in bloom. In 2020, I bought a 2nd tree - a grafted PPK which I put in the ground but not before taking a scion from it to graft onto my frankenmango. Call it mango insurance. The scion took, flushed a couple times, and looks like it’s heading to bloom now as well. The tree I took that scion came from has not done a thing since I planted it  :-\. I plan on keeping a few Cogshall’s on the tree but taking anything else off.  I’m already looking forward to 2022 season.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on January 31, 2021, 07:43:49 PM
All in ground trees and most grafts are now pushing flowers. =)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: mangokothiyan on January 31, 2021, 08:08:45 PM

My Lemon Meringue, in the ground for more than 10- years, is doing nothing this year. Could be because I pruned it last year. It has otherwise been a consistent producer. I am glad Lemon Zest is kind of making up for it. Smaller tree, but covered with blooms.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on January 31, 2021, 08:29:47 PM

My Lemon Meringue, in the ground for more than 10- years, is doing nothing this year. Could be because I pruned it last year. It has otherwise been a consistent producer. I am glad Lemon Zest is kind of making up for it. Smaller tree, but covered with blooms.
How many years in the ground was your lemon zest until it first flowered. In your opinion does it have to reach a certain level of maturity before it will produce?
Thank you in advance. :)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on February 01, 2021, 01:39:29 PM

My Lemon Meringue, in the ground for more than 10- years, is doing nothing this year. Could be because I pruned it last year. It has otherwise been a consistent producer. I am glad Lemon Zest is kind of making up for it. Smaller tree, but covered with blooms.

Ha, the only one that is not flowering for me is Lemon Zest.
Cookies OS clone is so I'm happy
...but would be happier if LZ was too
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on February 01, 2021, 06:50:51 PM
Most of our Lemon Meringue trees are flowering, but there are two conspicuous holdouts that have no excuse.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on February 01, 2021, 09:08:27 PM
Mango trees are really going crazy this year like I've never seen!  (Just driving down the street today and I spotted this one in Pompano Beach.)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kBvKLxmV/20210201-113620.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBvKLxmV)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Future on February 02, 2021, 05:56:33 PM
E4 - full bloom
Pina Colada - full bloom
OS (from Cookie) - full bloom
Peach Cobbler - partial bloom
Sweet Tart - partial bloom
Guava  - just starting full bloom
Yi Xaun - full bloom (potentially its last season, do or die)
Pineapple Pleasure - partial bloom
M4 - partial bloom
Spirit of 76 - full bloom
Juicy Peach  - partial bloom
Cotton Candy  - full bloom
Phoenix - partial bloom with more on the way
Amy - just starting to push blooms

Everything else is still on pause

That’s an all star team bloom. I’m rooting for YI Xuan to be kept...
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on February 02, 2021, 06:41:23 PM
Mango trees are really going crazy this year like I've never seen!  (Just driving down the street today and I spotted this one in Pompano Beach.)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kBvKLxmV/20210201-113620.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBvKLxmV)

...at least partially explains my sinus woes of late *sniffles*
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on February 02, 2021, 07:37:47 PM
I'm psl/martin.  Majority of trees i see driving around are blooming, some full, some barely.
I have 20yr old tree guessing Kent with 1 little area full bloomed, the rest buds, some buds are abnormal huge & sticky from sap.  Is Kent late bloomer?  This is first time i stuck to fertilizing, spraying, iron drenched, kelp drenched, sulfur & calcium, all over the past 6 months & watered.  Pruned during summer to keep from becoming monster ever again.  Looks very healthy.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on February 02, 2021, 09:10:34 PM
E4 - full bloom
Pina Colada - full bloom
OS (from Cookie) - full bloom
Peach Cobbler - partial bloom
Sweet Tart - partial bloom
Guava  - just starting full bloom
Yi Xaun - full bloom (potentially its last season, do or die)
Pineapple Pleasure - partial bloom
M4 - partial bloom
Spirit of 76 - full bloom
Juicy Peach  - partial bloom
Cotton Candy  - full bloom
Phoenix - partial bloom with more on the way
Amy - just starting to push blooms

Everything else is still on pause

That’s an all star team bloom. I’m rooting for YI Xuan to be kept...

Reach out to me when you get in town (assuming you are coming this summer).
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: mangokothiyan on February 02, 2021, 09:46:51 PM

It took the tree four years from 3 gallon to flower and produce fruit last year. I got about 10 fruits.  This time it has flowered more.



My Lemon Meringue, in the ground for more than 10- years, is doing nothing this year. Could be because I pruned it last year. It has otherwise been a consistent producer. I am glad Lemon Zest is kind of making up for it. Smaller tree, but covered with blooms.
How many years in the ground was your lemon zest until it first flowered. In your opinion does it have to reach a certain level of maturity before it will produce?
Thank you in advance. :)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on February 09, 2021, 07:14:17 PM
My Lemon zest is finally waking up and I'm seeing flowers emerge.
Even the Manohar that i grafted a few years back is flowering.

Its actually harder to find things that aren't flowering.
Other than the experimental seedlings that I grafted onto mature trees the only hold outs are Pickering (weird), Nelepetite, and Yi Xuan

This should be a good year.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: canito 17 on February 09, 2021, 07:40:52 PM
What mango season? My Columbus kidney is producing all year round. And I hate that mango. My neighbors don't allow me to top graft it.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: zands on February 14, 2021, 04:29:06 PM
From what I see it looks like a good mango season for SE Florida/ My neighbor has a 35-40 ft tall mango tree that does not spread out into a monster shade tree/ This tree is 30 years old, maybe more
It was 40ft tall at the end of last mango season. She had some trimmers come in to take 15ft off the top. It's is blooming profusely this year and started with an early bloom/ When it yields some fruit I will post a photo to hopefully ID it.  As I drive around I see many mango trees with profuse bloom. More than in the last five years. It did not get that cold this winter but it was dry and still is. Dry and cold  stimulate blooms
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Future on February 14, 2021, 05:16:56 PM
E4 - full bloom
Pina Colada - full bloom
OS (from Cookie) - full bloom
Peach Cobbler - partial bloom
Sweet Tart - partial bloom
Guava  - just starting full bloom
Yi Xaun - full bloom (potentially its last season, do or die)
Pineapple Pleasure - partial bloom
M4 - partial bloom
Spirit of 76 - full bloom
Juicy Peach  - partial bloom
Cotton Candy  - full bloom
Phoenix - partial bloom with more on the way
Amy - just starting to push blooms

Everything else is still on pause

That’s an all star team bloom. I’m rooting for YI Xuan to be kept...

Reach out to me when you get in town (assuming you are coming this summer).

Thanks. Will do as I have my eyes on it. I see yo have an old number for you so pls PM if there’s a new one.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on February 20, 2021, 05:56:22 PM
Most of my early blooms met the frost and lost, Mr Frost one, several mangos zero.
The trees that did not bloom early have however exploded with blooms after the severe cold.  I hope those fare better and no deep temperature drops occur from now on through spring.

A quick questions, should I knock off the drying panicles or let them drop on their own?

Share your experience (I know Rob already shared he lost E4 bloom, anyone else?)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on February 20, 2021, 06:44:21 PM
I just walked the yard minutes ago.  Just about all early blooms met their demise by Mr. Frost.  A lot of the trees have a post frost bloom that is clean as a whistle so hopefully all will not be lost.  Some fared better than others.  E4 was a total loss.  Was in complete open flower bloom when frost hit it. Pineapple Pleasure was hit hard but has a small amount of unscathed blooms.  Amy, Ambika, Fairchild, Taralay and M. siamensis were not in bloom at all when frost hit and they are in full, clean bloom.

Dies anyone know if M. siamensis will fare well here (fruit wise)?

Yi Xaun is a mess.  Massive flower, some hit by frost and a lot of PM.  Not one fruit.  Its branches are headed for the street and it will be a different variety later this year.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: fisherking73 on February 20, 2021, 07:35:08 PM
I just walked the yard minutes ago.  Just about all early blooms met their demise by Mr. Frost.  A lot of the trees have a post frost bloom that is clean as a whistle so hopefully all will not be lost.  Some fared better than others.  E4 was a total loss.  Was in complete open flower bloom when frost hit it. Pineapple Pleasure was hit hard but has a small amount of unscathed blooms.  Amy, Ambika, Fairchild, Taralay and M. siamensis were not in bloom at all when frost hit and they are in full, clean bloom.

Dies anyone know if M. siamensis will fare well here (fruit wise)?

Yi Xaun is a mess.  Massive flower, some hit by frost and a lot of PM.  Not one fruit.  Its branches are headed for the street and it will be a different variety later this year.
Taralay…..Yummm! I see u didn't list spirit of 76, did you chop it or top work it?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: fisherking73 on February 20, 2021, 07:36:42 PM
Pickering and honey kiss are loaded with blooms (especially the honey kiss) Fairchild has largest bloom it has had to date. PPK got pugged this year and lots of growth but nothing this season. coconut cream heavy bloom, very poor fruit set so far as usual. May top work it after this year to something a bit more consistent
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on February 20, 2021, 07:42:20 PM
I just walked the yard minutes ago.  Just about all early blooms met their demise by Mr. Frost.  A lot of the trees have a post frost bloom that is clean as a whistle so hopefully all will not be lost.  Some fared better than others.  E4 was a total loss.  Was in complete open flower bloom when frost hit it. Pineapple Pleasure was hit hard but has a small amount of unscathed blooms.  Amy, Ambika, Fairchild, Taralay and M. siamensis were not in bloom at all when frost hit and they are in full, clean bloom.

Dies anyone know if M. siamensis will fare well here (fruit wise)?

Yi Xaun is a mess.  Massive flower, some hit by frost and a lot of PM.  Not one fruit.  Its branches are headed for the street and it will be a different variety later this year.
Taralay…..Yummm! I see u didn't list spirit of 76, did you chop it or top work it?

Spirit of 76 did get hit by frost but is holding tiny fruit.  Not getting rid of it, I like it and a fav of the better half.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on February 20, 2021, 07:43:36 PM
Fisherking, how many years has your CC bloomed with poor results so far?

I’ve got one potted and my list of cons keeps growing as to planting it in ground. Thanks
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on February 20, 2021, 08:26:21 PM
Fisherking, how many years has your CC bloomed with poor results so far?

I’ve got one potted and my list of cons keeps growing as to planting it in ground. Thanks

At my old house, mine started fruiting well after 5 years inground.  What I hated about it was its growth habit.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on February 20, 2021, 08:43:05 PM
Thanks Rob,
growth habit is unnerving for me too, twisty and tangled and droopy for me.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on February 20, 2021, 08:44:33 PM
Thanks Rob,
growth habit is unnerving for me too, twisty and tangled and droopy for me.

Yup, exactly.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: fisherking73 on February 20, 2021, 08:56:45 PM
I believe this  is CC the 5th or 6th year in ground, planted as a 7 or 15 gallon don't recal. It has been a decent bloomer (huge pannicles) but shy when it comes to fruit set. And yes the growth habit takes a lot of work to keep in any type of attractive canopy shape lol last year it gave about a dozen fruit. Year before about 20 or which was the average  for couple years in a row. 20-30 a year would be substantial for the wife and I since we have 4 other trees that are heavy producers. I always remember you talking highly about spirit Rob and I have enjoyed some over the years when I can find some for sale, good mango. Still a big fan of taralay since you introduced me to it. Hopefully Walter never top works his lol My CC already has started dropping lots of pannicles and only see handful of small fruit so far with some blooms yet to develop. Luckily no frost by us.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Honest Abe on February 20, 2021, 09:01:06 PM
Thanks fisherking. Good info, I’ve heard many have had trouble with CC and very low production.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on February 20, 2021, 09:08:09 PM
Curious to see what CC does here this season. Near full bloom currently. Few fruits for the last 2 years, but really nice.

Yes, long scraggly growth habit, notable distance between nodes. Mine is starting to look better with age. Needs yearly pruning and training.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on February 21, 2021, 12:51:46 AM
My guess is that the extreme cold likely bit a lot of people who don’t realize it yet. Cold damaged flowers and panicles often don’t reveal themselves immediately but will show in the form of panicles in “suspended animation” that never seem to finish expanding properly. The flowers will start to dry out before they even open in most cases and some that manage to open are rendered staminate. The early crop will probably be poor in most of the state outside the coastal zone.

Between this and the rainfall in some areas, the overall crop size might not reach the lofty heights that it was appearing it would. Maybe more of a 2015-size season than 2009.

On our end there are a few varieties that I was really hopeful to see fruit this year that look like they’ll once again do nothing (mostly central/North Indian/Pakistani varieties). As cold as it got in January, we had enough interruptions to the cold fronts to result in something less than a full bloom, and now that it’s basically summer again here anything that didn’t initiate weeks ago is now going to go vegetative.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on February 21, 2021, 12:30:03 PM
My guess is that the extreme cold likely bit a lot of people who don’t realize it yet. Cold damaged flowers and panicles often don’t reveal themselves immediately but will show in the form of panicles in “suspended animation” that never seem to finish expanding properly. The flowers will start to dry out before they even open in most cases and some that manage to open are rendered staminate. The early crop will probably be poor in most of the state outside the coastal zone.

Between this and the rainfall in some areas, the overall crop size might not reach the lofty heights that it was appearing it would. Maybe more of a 2015-size season than 2009.

On our end there are a few varieties that I was really hopeful to see fruit this year that look like they’ll once again do nothing (mostly central/North Indian/Pakistani varieties). As cold as it got in January, we had enough interruptions to the cold fronts to result in something less than a full bloom, and now that it’s basically summer again here anything that didn’t initiate weeks ago is now going to go vegetative.

Around how low of temperatures can mango flowers withstand and still bear fruit?

Also, how much of a factor does rain, moisture, and dew point present regarding fruit set, drop?

Thanks Alex and other mango masters!

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on February 24, 2021, 09:04:15 AM
My guess is that the extreme cold likely bit a lot of people who don’t realize it yet. Cold damaged flowers and panicles often don’t reveal themselves immediately but will show in the form of panicles in “suspended animation” that never seem to finish expanding properly. The flowers will start to dry out before they even open in most cases and some that manage to open are rendered staminate. The early crop will probably be poor in most of the state outside the coastal zone.

Between this and the rainfall in some areas, the overall crop size might not reach the lofty heights that it was appearing it would. Maybe more of a 2015-size season than 2009.

On our end there are a few varieties that I was really hopeful to see fruit this year that look like they’ll once again do nothing (mostly central/North Indian/Pakistani varieties). As cold as it got in January, we had enough interruptions to the cold fronts to result in something less than a full bloom, and now that it’s basically summer again here anything that didn’t initiate weeks ago is now going to go vegetative.

I have to agree with you.  My early bloom is toast.  Even the ones that looked OK after the deep chill are turning brown.  It appears that the trees the flowered after the frost may be the only ones with any reasonable shot at fruit set.  For what started out looking like a barner year, it may be just a good or medium year.  I am hopeful that perhaps there may be a late flush and that some of the trees that started early get another shot this year.  The challenge is a couple of those trees had such a complete bloom that just about every branch that could held flower and there are few if any ready to push.

We will see.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Das Bhut on February 26, 2021, 05:57:06 AM
my orange essence is just starting to flower for the first time
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on February 26, 2021, 09:40:11 AM
my orange essence is just starting to flower for the first time

This one is going to start to receive more attention as they come into production. It’s prolific, high eating quality, nice size and doesn’t seem to get MBBS. Ours are all flowering well again.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on February 26, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
my orange essence is just starting to flower for the first time

This one is going to start to receive more attention as they come into production. It’s prolific, high eating quality, nice size and doesn’t seem to get MBBS. Ours are all flowering well again.

Gifted OS to my bro in law. Hope he remembers me!

Lots of blooms here. Not much fruit set yet. Considering fishing
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Das Bhut on February 26, 2021, 09:09:45 PM
my orange essence is just starting to flower for the first time

This one is going to start to receive more attention as they come into production. It’s prolific, high eating quality, nice size and doesn’t seem to get MBBS. Ours are all flowering well again.

not a fan of it so far.

It's been in ground for 4 years but has put out less flowers than my 2 year old sugar loaf and less than 5% of the flowers on honey kiss
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Tropicdude on February 26, 2021, 09:35:15 PM
my orange essence is just starting to flower for the first time

This one is going to start to receive more attention as they come into production. It’s prolific, high eating quality, nice size and doesn’t seem to get MBBS. Ours are all flowering well again.

Gifted OS to my bro in law. Hope he remembers me!

Lots of blooms here. Not much fruit set yet. Considering fishing

I really liked the taste of this one, also noted the very thick skin, and seemed to have a decent shelf life. I bought them green, and they ripened well, who knows might be a future commercial variety, not sure on the production and disease resistance if any.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Das Bhut on February 27, 2021, 07:30:34 AM
Orange essence also gets leaf diseases easily and has a vertical growth habit even with pruning
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: fliptop on March 04, 2021, 08:37:14 PM
Here was my M-4 the night before the 36° frost visited.
(https://i.postimg.cc/14gM11Df/20210203-134303-1-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14gM11Df)
While some trees did get light frost on them, I'm guessing this one didn't. Here's the tree twelve days afterwards:
(https://i.postimg.cc/G8TDVr6R/20210216-184543-1-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8TDVr6R)
And now it's got pea-sized fruit. Alas, the tree is only two years in the ground, so these will be coming off this weekend.
(https://i.postimg.cc/R6t3GdnV/20210304-181933-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6t3GdnV)
My Pickerings all bloomed after the frost. Neelam is just breaking buds.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on March 04, 2021, 09:36:13 PM
My guess is that the extreme cold likely bit a lot of people who don’t realize it yet. Cold damaged flowers and panicles often don’t reveal themselves immediately but will show in the form of panicles in “suspended animation” that never seem to finish expanding properly. The flowers will start to dry out before they even open in most cases and some that manage to open are rendered staminate. The early crop will probably be poor in most of the state outside the coastal zone.

Between this and the rainfall in some areas, the overall crop size might not reach the lofty heights that it was appearing it would. Maybe more of a 2015-size season than 2009.

On our end there are a few varieties that I was really hopeful to see fruit this year that look like they’ll once again do nothing (mostly central/North Indian/Pakistani varieties). As cold as it got in January, we had enough interruptions to the cold fronts to result in something less than a full bloom, and now that it’s basically summer again here anything that didn’t initiate weeks ago is now going to go vegetative.

Around how low of temperatures can mango flowers withstand and still bear fruit?

Also, how much of a factor does rain, moisture, and dew point present regarding fruit set, drop?

Thanks Alex and other mango masters!

I’m sure humidity plays a big role. I remember measuring ground temps in the high 20s one particular day in Loxahatchee some years ago. I thought for sure the bloom would be toast but it had rained quite a bit the few days before and I hadn’t mowed the place in a while. Ended up with no damage.

I think once it’s 32F for any extended time they’re usually done for. Mid-30s is the gray area because they can still be damaged but end up opening some flowers and setting fruit.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on March 30, 2021, 06:28:42 PM
My M4 lost its early flowers to the frost last month, it is flowering again.  I was out looking for scions on some other varieties for a friend and when I walked by the M4 was surprised to see the new growth was not leaves but flowers.  Perhaps I will get some M4 this year afterall.  I took a minute to check out other trees that had failed in the first go-around and the Carrie also has a couple of flowers pushing.

Anyone else getting a second round of flowering? 
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on March 30, 2021, 10:01:38 PM
My M4 lost its early flowers to the frost last month, it is flowering again.  I was out looking for scions on some other varieties for a friend and when I walked by the M4 was surprised to see the new growth was not leaves but flowers.  Perhaps I will get some M4 this year afterall.  I took a minute to check out other trees that had failed in the first go-around and the Carrie also has a couple of flowers pushing.

Anyone else getting a second round of flowering?

Seen it on Julie, Dwarf Hawaiian, Rosa, Sugarloaf, Mapulehu, Edward, Arka Neelkiran and various other trees. Our Julie’s first bloom was disaffected by cold so appears it may have close to a full second bloom now.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on March 31, 2021, 07:00:28 PM
Neelam has decided to bloom  It's going to be 68° tonight and 48 degrees tomorrow night.With five days of temperature  below 60 that follow. And it's raining
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWKqm0XQ/20210331-184742.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWKqm0XQ)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Orkine on March 31, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
Neelam has decided to bloom  It's going to be 68° tonight and 48 degrees tomorrow night.With five days of temperature  below 60 that follow. And it's raining
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWKqm0XQ/20210331-184742.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWKqm0XQ)
Can I infer from you post that you expect the weather over the next few days to encourage even more mango to bloom? Several nights of "low" temperature with sufficient moisture .....

I hope you are right :)

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on March 31, 2021, 09:08:41 PM
Found about 5 ripe Edward fruit today on the ground:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf/2-C8-A5304-ABD9-4642-9911-7-C380-E1-AB5-A5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw/C1-CE8-EA0-6773-4-EE4-AC2-D-57-CE75-BD8909.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JulianoGS on April 01, 2021, 01:23:49 PM
Yummy, fruits are looking good man, how did it taste?

Found about 5 ripe Edward fruit today on the ground:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf/2-C8-A5304-ABD9-4642-9911-7-C380-E1-AB5-A5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw/C1-CE8-EA0-6773-4-EE4-AC2-D-57-CE75-BD8909.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on April 01, 2021, 10:21:02 PM
Yummy, fruits are looking good man, how did it taste?

Found about 5 ripe Edward fruit today on the ground:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf/2-C8-A5304-ABD9-4642-9911-7-C380-E1-AB5-A5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw/C1-CE8-EA0-6773-4-EE4-AC2-D-57-CE75-BD8909.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw)

Good by March mango standards. They’ll be a lot better in 4 weeks though.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bovine421 on April 02, 2021, 10:25:13 AM
Yummy, fruits are looking good man, how did it taste?

Found about 5 ripe Edward fruit today on the ground:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf/2-C8-A5304-ABD9-4642-9911-7-C380-E1-AB5-A5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9qZtpYf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw/C1-CE8-EA0-6773-4-EE4-AC2-D-57-CE75-BD8909.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXpPmMsw)

Good by March mango standards. They’ll be a lot better in 4 weeks though.
I call dibs on the next 30 lb that fall to the ground :)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: palmcity on April 02, 2021, 12:05:22 PM
Anyone else getting a second round of flowering?
Partial rebloom of about 1/4 to 1/5 of trees is evident blooming on some and some are just getting new bloom bud growth again. The amount of bloom per tree is less than first time bloom on a per tree basis.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Oncorhynchus on April 14, 2021, 10:04:40 PM
I’ve been eating the first crop from my Rosigold for a couple of days now. It’s its second year fruiting and while I was happy with it last year, I think it’s a little better this year (or I just haven’t had a decent mango is a while). It isn’t knock you socks off amazing but I’m still really happy with this little tree! Who else is getting mangoes?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: puglvr1 on April 29, 2021, 03:47:00 PM
Great pics everyone, jealous of all of you that are getting ripe mangoes so early in the season...sorry for the people that lost blooms during the winter frost.

I do not have any of the new and fancy varieties, just have some of the old original tried and true varieties.

Several weeks ago...
(https://i.postimg.cc/qNGtjSTW/IMG-6366.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNGtjSTW)

Glenn mango
(https://i.postimg.cc/XZmyqNjk/IMG-6518.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZmyqNjk)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QKsCKHR1/IMG-6519.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKsCKHR1)

Maha
(https://i.postimg.cc/xc1H644H/IMG-6517.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xc1H644H)

(https://i.postimg.cc/67mCfgVt/IMG-6540.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67mCfgVt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/D8TL6qGJ/IMG-6541.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8TL6qGJ)
Cogshall
(https://i.postimg.cc/34DBtbfY/IMG-6532.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34DBtbfY)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hhbbHycb/IMG-6539.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhbbHycb)

Keitt...
(https://i.postimg.cc/S2prtfB9/IMG-6538.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2prtfB9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XZGr4JF6/IMG-6537.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZGr4JF6)

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on April 29, 2021, 05:36:02 PM
Those look real nice Pug; I would be happy to feast upon any of them.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: sumognat on April 29, 2021, 09:04:44 PM
Had my first early mango of the season, there was a lonely mystery mango that was almost ripe, all the other mangoes on the tree are still a few weeks out, I think.

When I first tried these, I mistakenly ate them all yellow, which I did not like. Too sweet and floral. I spoke to someone not that long ago about this variety and he said to try it mostly green. Luckily, I caught this one in time. I like it much better this way (mostly green).  I am happy to have discovered this since the house we bought has a mature NDM tree with lots of fruit. 😋
(https://i.postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c/E4-C67995-A339-4410-A7-B3-FD7-BEAAD729-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on April 30, 2021, 12:57:03 AM
Had my first early mango of the season, there was a lonely Nam Doc Mai mango that was almost ripe, all the other mangoes on the tree are still a few weeks out, I think.

When I first tried these, I mistakenly ate them all yellow, which I did not like. Too sweet and floral. I spoke to someone not that long ago about this variety and he said to try it mostly green. Luckily, I caught this one in time. I like it much better this way (mostly green).  I am happy to have discovered this since the house we bought has a mature NDM tree with lots of fruit. 😋
(https://i.postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c/E4-C67995-A339-4410-A7-B3-FD7-BEAAD729-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c)

Doesn’t look like Nam Doc Mai. Might be a Carabao
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: puglvr1 on April 30, 2021, 02:03:23 PM
Those look real nice Pug; I would be happy to feast upon any of them.

Thanks roblack! Can't wait till they are ready, I lose about 70% of my mangoes to squirrels, racoons, rabbits, you name it they eat them  >:(...I will be placing the produce clamshells when they get more mature, it doesn't stop them, but it does slow them down a little  :o
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on April 30, 2021, 02:23:55 PM
Those look real nice Pug; I would be happy to feast upon any of them.

Thanks roblack! Can't wait till they are ready, I lose about 70% of my mangoes to squirrels, racoons, rabbits, you name it they eat them  >:(...I will be placing the produce clamshells when they get more mature, it doesn't stop them, but it does slow them down a little  :o
70%?  Yikes!  You've got too many critters there.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: sumognat on April 30, 2021, 03:35:35 PM
Had my first early mango of the season, there was a lonely Nam Doc Mai mango that was almost ripe, all the other mangoes on the tree are still a few weeks out, I think.

When I first tried these, I mistakenly ate them all yellow, which I did not like. Too sweet and floral. I spoke to someone not that long ago about this variety and he said to try it mostly green. Luckily, I caught this one in time. I like it much better this way (mostly green).  I am happy to have discovered this since the house we bought has a mature NDM tree with lots of fruit. 😋
(https://i.postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c/E4-C67995-A339-4410-A7-B3-FD7-BEAAD729-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c)


Doesn’t look like Nam Doc Mai. Might be a Carabao

Alex, 

Wow!  You think so? I didn’t know what variety it was when we bought the house, just tried to narrow it down based on taste and fruit size/shape. Here are some better pictures.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3kJJm8RN/72-E38495-6-B87-432-D-978-C-E29866-DFF4-AC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kJJm8RN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpWvNc6w/7-A8-E133-A-F615-4-FB0-A03-B-7745-D67967-DD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpWvNc6w)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on April 30, 2021, 05:49:35 PM
Those look real nice Pug; I would be happy to feast upon any of them.

Thanks roblack! Can't wait till they are ready, I lose about 70% of my mangoes to squirrels, racoons, rabbits, you name it they eat them  >:(...I will be placing the produce clamshells when they get more mature, it doesn't stop them, but it does slow them down a little  :o

We have a raccoon that is all over our mango and lychee trees during the daytime. Saw him out there around 12pm today. Is that normal? I thought these guys only came out at night?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Squam256 on April 30, 2021, 07:06:59 PM
Had my first early mango of the season, there was a lonely Nam Doc Mai mango that was almost ripe, all the other mangoes on the tree are still a few weeks out, I think.

When I first tried these, I mistakenly ate them all yellow, which I did not like. Too sweet and floral. I spoke to someone not that long ago about this variety and he said to try it mostly green. Luckily, I caught this one in time. I like it much better this way (mostly green).  I am happy to have discovered this since the house we bought has a mature NDM tree with lots of fruit. 😋
(https://i.postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c/E4-C67995-A339-4410-A7-B3-FD7-BEAAD729-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c)


Doesn’t look like Nam Doc Mai. Might be a Carabao

Alex, 

Wow!  You think so? I didn’t know what variety it was when we bought the house, just tried to narrow it down based on taste and fruit size/shape. Here are some better pictures.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3kJJm8RN/72-E38495-6-B87-432-D-978-C-E29866-DFF4-AC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kJJm8RN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpWvNc6w/7-A8-E133-A-F615-4-FB0-A03-B-7745-D67967-DD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpWvNc6w)

100% not Nam Doc Mai. But need more pics of the fruit to ID. Could also just be a random seedling.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on April 30, 2021, 07:28:45 PM
Had my first early mango of the season, there was a lonely Nam Doc Mai mango that was almost ripe, all the other mangoes on the tree are still a few weeks out, I think.

When I first tried these, I mistakenly ate them all yellow, which I did not like. Too sweet and floral. I spoke to someone not that long ago about this variety and he said to try it mostly green. Luckily, I caught this one in time. I like it much better this way (mostly green).  I am happy to have discovered this since the house we bought has a mature NDM tree with lots of fruit. 😋
(https://i.postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c/E4-C67995-A339-4410-A7-B3-FD7-BEAAD729-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F6mhZ8c)


Doesn’t look like Nam Doc Mai. Might be a Carabao

Alex, 

Wow!  You think so? I didn’t know what variety it was when we bought the house, just tried to narrow it down based on taste and fruit size/shape. Here are some better pictures.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3kJJm8RN/72-E38495-6-B87-432-D-978-C-E29866-DFF4-AC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kJJm8RN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpWvNc6w/7-A8-E133-A-F615-4-FB0-A03-B-7745-D67967-DD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpWvNc6w)

What does it taste like when fully ripe?  Citrus?  Non-descript mango?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on April 30, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

 

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2/sweet-tart-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF/fruit-punch-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Galatians522 on April 30, 2021, 09:45:49 PM
Those look real nice Pug; I would be happy to feast upon any of them.

Thanks roblack! Can't wait till they are ready, I lose about 70% of my mangoes to squirrels, racoons, rabbits, you name it they eat them  >:(...I will be placing the produce clamshells when they get more mature, it doesn't stop them, but it does slow them down a little  :o

We have a raccoon that is all over our mango and lychee trees during the daytime. Saw him out there around 12pm today. Is that normal? I thought these guys only came out at night?

No that is not normal for them. From what I have seen they typically do that when they have lost their fear of people and competition for food drives them to feed outside of the normal pattern. Basically they are hungry and because people don't hunt them for food much any more they are not afraid of people seeing them. Oddly enough, racoon was actually the most frequently consumed mammal by the FL natives before the arrival of Europeans--even more common than deer.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: puglvr1 on May 01, 2021, 12:55:36 PM
Those look real nice Pug; I would be happy to feast upon any of them.

Thanks roblack! Can't wait till they are ready, I lose about 70% of my mangoes to squirrels, racoons, rabbits, you name it they eat them  >:(...I will be placing the produce clamshells when they get more mature, it doesn't stop them, but it does slow them down a little  :o
70%?  Yikes!  You've got too many critters there.

John, I do!! My neighborhood around me have many large Oak trees and I'm very close to a State Park, we have deer daily, recorded a bear at a neighbor's driveway and even had a Florida panther too...one of them attacked one of my neighbors dog and eventually died  :'(  the squirrels  >:( though are my worst thieves and destroyer of my mango fruits and lychee (no fruit this year, though)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on May 01, 2021, 01:03:06 PM
John, I do!! My neighborhood around me have many large Oak trees and I'm very close to a State Park, we have deer daily, recorded a bear at a neighbor's driveway and even had a Florida panther too...one of them attacked one of my neighbors dog and eventually died  :'(  the squirrels  >:( though are my worst thieves and destroyer of my mango fruits and lychee (no fruit this year, though)

The clamshells I use (see my above pics) work pretty good for squirrels/iguanas. The raccoons tear them to shreds but nothing is foolproof. I would say the clamshells are single best thing we've done with real results in protecting fruit.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Future on May 01, 2021, 02:01:48 PM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

 

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2/sweet-tart-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF/fruit-punch-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF)
Immaculate. That’s  “How to win friends”
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: sumognat on May 06, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
Alex & Rob,

Sorry for the delayed response. I had a reaction to cutting that mango and wanted to wait awhile before I ventured to cut and taste again, as I was already trying to recover from planting mango trees a couple of weeks ago. 😆  Suffice to say I am highly allergic to touching mango fruits and trees.

Anyway, I believe Alex is correct and it is most likely Carabao. Flesh is very melting when fully ripe (yellow). Taste is less complex and sweet, but not super sweet.  Tropical, not citrusy to me, maybe a bit resinous/piney in certain places once in awhile but not a lot. A pretty good mango, but not great. Still, worth eating when you have no mangos around and have the urge. 😋
(https://i.postimg.cc/gndnc4X9/3-F3-A9309-30-F2-4-AC1-A8-F3-FDA18-AB181-D2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gndnc4X9)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on May 06, 2021, 09:10:42 PM
Started picking my first mangos.
An angie started coloring up on the tree.
Picked my first zinc, only a little clear sap came out. Hoping it's good
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on May 07, 2021, 08:49:28 PM
probably won't be any good, but found a small fruit punch today that was colored up nicely and very fragrant. came off in my hand, so here's to hope.


(https://i.postimg.cc/gxLL6fGs/20210507-184200-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxLL6fGs)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on May 08, 2021, 06:16:39 AM
You'd be surprised, I clipped one of a few weeks ago by accident and decided to let it ripen.
It was pretty good, especially considering I haven't had a mango in a few months
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: INaba on May 08, 2021, 02:32:46 PM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

 

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)

Amazing lemon zest.  I have just 1 fruit on my lz tree this season. What did you do to your lz to get so beautiful fruits?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on May 08, 2021, 07:41:59 PM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

 

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)

Amazing lemon zest.  I have just 1 fruit on my lz tree this season. What did you do to your lz to get so beautiful fruits?

Mostly luck I guess. Last year all the flowers dried out and I didn't get a single fruit. I spray my trees pretty frequently with all sort of concoctions. Not necessarily all at once, but I'll spray with micros, kelp, neem oil, copper, sulfur, and some other stuff like 'ripe blend' (kelp4less). Also mix in copper/sulfur depending on time of season. My trees definitely look nice and healthy.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: INaba on May 08, 2021, 10:17:43 PM


Mostly luck I guess. Last year all the flowers dried out and I didn't get a single fruit. I spray my trees pretty frequently with all sort of concoctions. Not necessarily all at once, but I'll spray with micros, kelp, neem oil, copper, sulfur, and some other stuff like 'ripe blend' (kelp4less). Also mix in copper/sulfur depending on time of season. My trees definitely look nice and healthy.
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I definitely need a consultation from you. When to spray copper,  sulfur  and in what form and how often. i try to keep everything organic as possible. And what is ripe4less?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on May 09, 2021, 05:35:19 PM
Not off our trees, but mine =)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GHr8FX98/May-Mangoes52021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GHr8FX98)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on May 10, 2021, 06:37:50 AM
Great Work!!!
Is that a Glenn in the center (more yellow)?
I picked 2 so far and it seemed a decent bit smaller than usual, i guess the lack of water.

What varieties?
I think I see Edward, Glenn, Philippine, Julie

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on May 10, 2021, 09:24:03 AM
Rosigold, Cambodiana, Edward, and another.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on May 10, 2021, 09:57:54 AM
Rosigold, Cambodiana, Edward, and another.

Well i was way off lol
LMK how that Cambodiana taste, I've been meaning to try it.
I can trade you for a Zinc later this season.
Can't really get away from work these days
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on May 10, 2021, 12:17:43 PM
Should have a tasting on the Cambodiana in the next day or 2. Will post my impressions.



Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on May 10, 2021, 01:13:10 PM
Rosigold, Cambodiana, Edward, and another.

Well i was way off lol
LMK how that Cambodiana taste, I've been meaning to try it.
I can trade you for a Zinc later this season.
Can't really get away from work these days

You had Edward correct.  Lol
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on May 10, 2021, 02:18:56 PM
Rosigold, Cambodiana, Edward, and another.

Well i was way off lol
LMK how that Cambodiana taste, I've been meaning to try it.
I can trade you for a Zinc later this season.
Can't really get away from work these days

You had Edward correct.  Lol

1/4, can't even get to J&J levels.
You'd think a mango deprived brain would be sharper
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: zands on May 10, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2/sweet-tart-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF/fruit-punch-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF)

The top one (photo) is Lemon Zest? ---- I like all the clear plastic clamshells protecting the LZ fruits. Clamshells from buying strawberries probably. You must be serious about getting as few robberies by animals. At least for LZ. Your high priority mango is LZ (I suppose)

You can also take a stack of old AOL CDs and cut through with a circular saw to the center hole. Then fit them through the stem so they lay on top of the mango. Critters like to climb up then bite downward on the mangos to make them fall.....I think I have some of those from AOL. Or other junk CDs.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: JulianoGS on May 11, 2021, 02:51:20 PM
CDs on top of the fruits seems like a good idea, it will mostly scare away birds and squirrels and possibly iguanas for that matter.



The top one (photo) is Lemon Zest? ---- I like all the clear plastic clamshells protecting the LZ fruits. Clamshells from buying strawberries probably. You must be serious about getting as few robberies by animals. At least for LZ. Your high priority mango is LZ (I suppose)

You can also take a stack of old AOL CDs and cut through with a circular saw to the center hole. Then fit them through the stem so they lay on top of the mango. Critters like to climb up then bite downward on the mangos to make them fall.....I think I have some of those from AOL. Or other junk CDs.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on May 11, 2021, 08:05:48 PM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2/sweet-tart-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF/fruit-punch-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF)

The top one (photo) is Lemon Zest? ---- I like all the clear plastic clamshells protecting the LZ fruits. Clamshells from buying strawberries probably. You must be serious about getting as few robberies by animals. At least for LZ. Your high priority mango is LZ (I suppose)

You can also take a stack of old AOL CDs and cut through with a circular saw to the center hole. Then fit them through the stem so they lay on top of the mango. Critters like to climb up then bite downward on the mangos to make them fall.....I think I have some of those from AOL. Or other junk CDs.

Ya top one is LZ. It is definitrly high prioroty, but that is an earlier picture as most trees have good clamshell coverage at this point. By my estimate, we've put out probably 400 - 500 clamshells at this point. Some of those are just strawberries bought throughout the years, but I have separately bought cases of regular and 2x size clamshells so i probably have a total of around 1,000 at this point.

My guess is we have a 100-200 more worthwhile mangoes to cover.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on May 15, 2021, 05:18:20 PM
First rosigold of the season (at our house).


(https://i.postimg.cc/qN933zZS/20210515-121924.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qN933zZS)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on May 22, 2021, 03:05:44 PM
Rosigold, Cambodiana, Edward, and another.

Well i was way off lol
LMK how that Cambodiana taste, I've been meaning to try it.
I can trade you for a Zinc later this season.
Can't really get away from work these days

Cambodiana is good, not great. Small fruits, no fiber. Sweet and has a little floral and acid hints if eaten early enough. When it gets too ripe, not that great and gets soft. Still, way better than store bought mangoes.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: weiss613 on May 22, 2021, 05:02:01 PM
Save me by clamshells
Yes I too value my LZ’s the most and have most of them covered and after reading what you wrote I am going to cover the rest. Thanks.
The wind we’ve just had knocked down 19 gorgeous LZ’s but none that were covered in clamshells. I’m hoping they all ripen as they are decently sized. Most have fallen off just on e of my 40+ LZ trees. I believe it’s because that tree had a severe infestation of scale and I sprayed the infested parts with undiluted Neem oil. Afterwards many leaves on that tree turned yellow where hit with the Neem oil. Then beautiful mangoes started dropping. I quit the Neem and switched to Horticultural oil for other scale infested areas on other trees which is 98.8% Mineral oil and zero fruit have fallen off of those trees and zero yellow leaves developed. Just my current experience so draw your own conclusions. Some of the LZ’s picked up off the thick grass on the 19th are starting to turn yellow. I sure hope they ripen up as LZ’s are pure gold and I’m not talking the almighty $.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: skhan on May 23, 2021, 09:46:18 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/R3vB3Zfg/IMG-20210523-092649066-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R3vB3Zfg)

This weekend will be the second of the year with a decent crop.
In my yard it seems mango season is underway proper
Mostly getting Angie, Dupuis and Edward.

Pick the last of the starapple and finally decided to pick the cacoa
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Nwcc on May 23, 2021, 10:40:13 AM
Should be a good year here. My favorites (lemon zest, sweet tart, fruit punch) are pretty loaded this year as well as many others:

(https://i.postimg.cc/py8GCgB8/lemon-zest-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py8GCgB8)
Hi,
Love your clamshell idea. I have about 25 new mango trees  recently planted and looking for some sort of future protection. Where did you purchase your clamshells and what size would you recommend? I’m going to try the CD option also.
Thank you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2/sweet-tart-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzgvQmv2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF/fruit-punch-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWYwT0zF)

The top one (photo) is Lemon Zest? ---- I like all the clear plastic clamshells protecting the LZ fruits. Clamshells from buying strawberries probably. You must be serious about getting as few robberies by animals. At least for LZ. Your high priority mango is LZ (I suppose)

You can also take a stack of old AOL CDs and cut through with a circular saw to the center hole. Then fit them through the stem so they lay on top of the mango. Critters like to climb up then bite downward on the mangos to make them fall.....I think I have some of those from AOL. Or other junk CDs.

Ya top one is LZ. It is definitrly high prioroty, but that is an earlier picture as most trees have good clamshell coverage at this point. By my estimate, we've put out probably 400 - 500 clamshells at this point. Some of those are just strawberries bought throughout the years, but I have separately bought cases of regular and 2x size clamshells so i probably have a total of around 1,000 at this point.

My guess is we have a 100-200 more worthwhile mangoes to cover.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: savemejebus on May 23, 2021, 07:22:23 PM
Hi,
Love your clamshell idea. I have about 25 new mango trees  recently planted and looking for some sort of future protection. Where did you purchase your clamshells and what size would you recommend? I’m going to try the CD option also.
Thank you.

The ones on the LZ tree are standard size strawberry clamshells. There are various plastic packaging sites you can buy them from. I don't remember where I bought mine but pretty sure we bought a case of 500. We also buy a lot of strawberries throughout the year and save all the clamshells.

I also bought larger size clamshells (I think it was a 2lb grape size) for the bigger mangoes (e.g. fruit punch) and for avocados.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: weiss613 on May 23, 2021, 08:37:19 PM
I bought mine from a restaurant supply store on the web. I bought 1 quart  and 4 lb ones. The 4lb ones are great for clusters of mangoes. I have as many as 4 Haden’s in 1 clamshell box. If the mangoes expand too much the box will pop open in 1 corner. So far fruit inside stays about as clean as the cleanest not boxed. Only 1 box out of 100 popped open on 1 side but it had 5 mangoes inside. With LZ’s probably going to all be picked in the next 2 weeks this experiment as far as producing spotless fruit is a 10. As far as protection from squirrels if I take the fruit off at the right time I won’t find out because the right time is right before the smell of the fruit becomes so sweet that the squirrels go crazy and attack the fruit. And all the boxes are totally reusable for years!!!
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/1-qt-vented-clamshell-produce-berry-container-case/434H7561.html (https://www.webstaurantstore.com/1-qt-vented-clamshell-produce-berry-container-case/434H7561.html)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on June 02, 2021, 04:54:29 PM
Today is a wonderful day for FL mangoes.

Earlier, ate the best mango of the season so far. Perfectly ripened Ceci Love. Juicy, sweet, subacid, and some spice. Just perfect. I could eat several back to back.

Then, just got into a LZ that did not disappoint. Wonderful citrus flavor, seemed like orange sherbet at times. And then, the flesh around the seed was especially good. No doubt there were coconut hints mixed in. Quite a treat. Need more.

Can't say which was better.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: achetadomestica on June 02, 2021, 05:00:33 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/K4McTtS2/1st-pickering-2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4McTtS2)

I picked my first Pickering yesterday. It fell into my hand when I touched it.

Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on June 02, 2021, 05:32:52 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/K4McTtS2/1st-pickering-2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4McTtS2)

I picked my first Pickering yesterday. It fell into my hand when I touched it.
Pickering makes it easy!  It absolutely ripens on the tree!  And you don't need a ladder or a fruit-picker (pole).
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on June 02, 2021, 06:40:45 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/K4McTtS2/1st-pickering-2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4McTtS2)

I picked my first Pickering yesterday. It fell into my hand when I touched it.
Pickering makes it easy!  It absolutely ripens on the tree!  And you don't need a ladder or a fruit-picker (pole).

You obviously haven't seen Walter's trees.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: kmwilli6 on June 09, 2021, 11:27:56 AM
Hello all,

I'm looking for some advice for when to pick 'Angie' mangos. I have a lot of squirrels and other critters that eat a lot of the fruit from my yard so I'd like to pick them as early as possible. When do you pick them and do you think the one pictured below is ready?


(https://i.postimg.cc/w1H8NKV0/IMG-7593.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1H8NKV0)

Thanks!
Kevin
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: EddieF on June 09, 2021, 02:40:25 PM
Picked these this morning when i heard mower coming.  Kent, felt like 8lbs all 4.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PCXQKfps/IMG-0425.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCXQKfps)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jWCQ084M/IMG-0427.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWCQ084M)


Ate 1 other day i knocked off topping tree last month during cool weather.  Left in sun a week, was good!

(https://i.postimg.cc/4nRLVg5Z/IMG-0414.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4nRLVg5Z)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qzjjPCdM/IMG-0416.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzjjPCdM)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YhpdDzZs/IMG-0419.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhpdDzZs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp7gk7yM/IMG-0424.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp7gk7yM)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on June 09, 2021, 04:06:46 PM
Tasty Glenns coming in. Clean fruit, aromatic, fiberless, juicy, and a pleasant peachy flavor. Quite sweet this year. If it only had some acidity.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: pineislander on June 09, 2021, 04:40:07 PM
SWFL 1/2 my lemon meringue falling dead ripe. Pim Sen Mun and Okrung about 1/2 harvested, Some NDM ripening, Fairchild has scattered fruit ripening. Some Coghall are ready, others waiting, Carrie showing color break. Some Jean Ellen breaking color. All others still green.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Tommyng on June 10, 2021, 08:26:39 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhyNZ9Lf/52-FB2-DBD-85-E5-4-A9-A-A7-AA-6-D0878492432.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhyNZ9Lf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/2LG6prNM/9-A0-EDFBA-70-FB-4-C87-ACA8-E1-C9366-A4-ADF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2LG6prNM)

(https://i.postimg.cc/z3rF171F/CD74721-A-D57-F-423-B-8348-E0-B2-D0-A0-C84-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3rF171F)

A friend let me try some of his pim sen mun. There is a little fiber but if you like the taste of longans then this is an excellent mango to eat. It was really enjoyable with a paper thin skin. People eat this green but I like it ripe. Speaking of green mango, I wife ate some pram kea mea and she loves it. Crunchy sweet and refreshing.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: johnb51 on June 10, 2021, 10:56:06 AM
I picked some green PPK last Friday.  They're ripening ok.  The flavor is fine, but the brix is lower than it should be.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Galatians522 on June 10, 2021, 10:37:47 PM
SWFL 1/2 my lemon meringue falling dead ripe. Pim Sen Mun and Okrung about 1/2 harvested, Some NDM ripening, Fairchild has scattered fruit ripening. Some Coghall are ready, others waiting, Carrie showing color break. Some Jean Ellen breaking color. All others still green.

How do you determine when your okrung are ripe? I have an okrung seedling that put out 3 fruits for the first time this year. I guess I will find out if I picked the right sprout.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: palmcity on June 11, 2021, 08:11:31 AM

How do you determine when your okrung are ripe? I have an okrung seedling that put out 3 fruits for the first time this year. I guess I will find out if I picked the right sprout.
A slight yellowing but very slight usually before they fall.

The fruit is usually fine to take inside and ripen another few days as so small and compact damage is seldom a problem with the drop especially if a young tree. I usually let them ripen till I see brown areas forming as these brown areas do not taste good but the fruit is sweetest when they start to form so you may want to let at least the first start to almost get a spot before cutting and eating to taste the max sweetness and it is sweeter than some others like phillipine at this stage.

Problems: tree is not a consistent bearer and this year my 7+ year old tree only kept 1 fruit. Last year I did not get many either but the year before I had a nice crop. I did get another fruit this year on one of the trees i multiple grafted 2 years ago but I did not know it was  okrung until I cut into it as it is so similar to phillipine often if both drop greenish to minimal yellowing and if I don't check the fruit for the creased area looking like a butt crack on one of okrungs sides.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: zands on June 11, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
Tasty Glenns coming in. Clean fruit, aromatic, fiberless, juicy, and a pleasant peachy flavor. Quite sweet this year. If it only had some acidity.
I have been getting some Glenns from a neighbor. I usually eat mangos at room temperature. But I refrigerate Glenns. Then eat at refrigerator level temperature. I find that the cold enhances their flavor. Brings out their flavor

Try this with any bland mango.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: bsbullie on June 11, 2021, 11:02:44 AM

How do you determine when your okrung are ripe? I have an okrung seedling that put out 3 fruits for the first time this year. I guess I will find out if I picked the right sprout.
A slight yellowing but very slight usually before they fall.

The fruit is usually fine to take inside and ripen another few days as so small and compact damage is seldom a problem with the drop especially if a young tree. I usually let them ripen till I see brown areas forming as these brown areas do not taste good but the fruit is sweetest when they start to form so you may want to let at least the first start to almost get a spot before cutting and eating to taste the max sweetness and it is sweeter than some others like phillipine at this stage.

Problems: tree is not a consistent bearer and this year my 7+ year old tree only kept 1 fruit. Last year I did not get many either but the year before I had a nice crop. I did get another fruit this year on one of the trees i multiple grafted 2 years ago but I did not know it was  okrung until I cut into it as it is so similar to phillipine often if both drop greenish to minimal yellowing and if I don't check the fruit for the creased area looking like a butt crack on one of okrungs sides.

Due to their fiber and size, Okrungs can be let to drop and they will be perfectly fine. 
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on June 12, 2021, 12:13:12 PM
I usually don't like refrigerated mangoes, but will see what some cool does to the flavor of Glenn. Our youngest only eats frozen mango. Hard to cut up and freeze some of the primo varieties; things we do for love.

Picked these up today. When got home, neighbor had left a bag of the reddish ones on the porch. =)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3yXgSk8H/Mango-Haul-6-12-21.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3yXgSk8H)
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: fliptop on June 13, 2021, 12:26:46 PM
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How do you determine when your okrung are ripe? I have an okrung seedling that put out 3 fruits for the first time this year. I guess I will find out if I picked the right sprout.

Galatians522, how old/large is your seedling tree? Any pics?
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: Galatians522 on June 13, 2021, 10:10:15 PM
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How do you determine when your okrung are ripe? I have an okrung seedling that put out 3 fruits for the first time this year. I guess I will find out if I picked the right sprout.

Galatians522, how old/large is your seedling tree? Any pics?

It is about 7' tall and wide. I tipped it to give it a more rounded shape. I think I planted the seed about 5-6 years ago. Its been in the ground for 3 years I think. It probably would have fruited a year sooner if I had taken better care of it and not left it in a 7 gallon pot for 2 years. I don't have a picture of it at the moment--its pretty typical.
Title: Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
Post by: roblack on June 14, 2021, 10:00:33 AM
Just ate my first Sunny from Doc Campbell. What a nice surprise, really good. Juicy and sweet, with quite a bit of tang to it. Not too complex. No fiber. Clean mango. Kept the seed. Got another one to try.