Ilama (Annona diversifolia)

[edself65]

I was wondering if anyone has any grafted Ilamas to sale or trade?

Thanks,

Ed

[edself65]

I was wondering if anyone has any grafted Ilamas to sale or trade?

I would also be interested in budwood? Anyone got it to trade or sale?

Thanks,

Ed Self

[bsbullie]

Excalibur has grafted Ilamas.

[murahilin]

Excalibur has grafted Ilamas.

Last I spoke to them they said they did not have any in smaller sizes and only had the few giant ones in large pots. They have recently grafted a bunch that will be ready in a few months. Have you been told differently?

[HMHausman]

I was wondering if anyone has any grafted Ilamas to sale or trade?

I would also be interested in budwood? Anyone got it to trade or sale?

Thanks,

Ed Self

You were welcome to budwood from my Genova Red when you were by my house.  You didn't ask.  I can send you some though.

Harry

[edself65]

Hi Harry!

I forgot to ask! Once we tried those Haysa Sapodillas all I was thinking about was getting a sapodilla tree!

If you could send me 2 or 3 pieces that would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Ed

[bsbullie]

Excalibur has grafted Ilamas.

Last I spoke to them they said they did not have any in smaller sizes and only had the few giant ones in large pots. They have recently grafted a bunch that will be ready in a few months. Have you been told differently?

Richard had said he did, though I didn't ask what size.  I know they have some that are 2-3 months off, maybe that is what Richard was referring to.

[edself65]

Murahilin or Rob do either of you know what rootstock Excalibur is using for the Ilama?

Thanks,

Ed

[bsbullie]

Murahilin or Rob do either of you know what rootstock Excalibur is using for the Ilama?

Thanks,

Ed

Funny you ask, Richard wasn't sure on first thought when I asked him.  I will see if I can find out for you.

[Lianne Murray]

Ilama is more sensitive to cold and conditions that Atemoya and Sugar Apple. Here at The treehouse we have an aged plant that my parents brought back from El Salvador. It is Pink and has wonderful fruit. We will be propagating and have later this year.

[edself65]

Do you ever have any Ilama fruit to sell?

Thanks,

Ed Self

[HMHausman]

Ilama is more sensitive to cold and conditions that Atemoya and Sugar Apple. Here at The treehouse we have an aged plant that my parents brought back from El Salvador. It is Pink and has wonderful fruit. We will be propagating and have later this year.

That has not been my experience with Genova Red.  If anything, it is more cold hardy than atemoyas or suga apples.

Harry

[bsbullie]

The Illamas are grafted on custard apple rootstock and they are cold hearty.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Murahilin or Rob do either of you know what rootstock Excalibur is using for the Ilama?

Thanks,

Ed

Funny you ask, Richard wasn't sure on first thought when I asked him.  I will see if I can find out for you.

Ed,

Looked like annona glabra at excalibur...but had horrible galling and disgusting look about the rootstock and graft union...

Although the tree was healthy (nice above graft union, nice foliage) and fruiting....so pond apple may be an acceptable rootstock.

I think best is illama/illam, or illama/A. reticulata....also respectable candidates include atemoya seedlings, both cherimoya and sugar apple of course...am I'm sure a few other Annona sp. would be just fine to graft onto...

May all of your grafts callus and grow like weeds!

PS...some thoughts on grafting...

(I love grafting because it's like performing surgery on a a patient that doesn't bleed, need anesthetic, or a nurse...also, no family to report to if things go awry, and your patient dies!)

But...sometimes the person who gave you the budwood may want to hear how they're little "patient" (scion) is doing in your hospital (greenhouse/home garden), and "blood" (sap) can get on your grafting knife and will need to be cleaned!!!

So I guess it's all how you look at it...maybe some plants will be more missed than an old random bum that shows up in a hospital, and dies of pneumonia as a John Doe.

[edself65]

Thanks Rob for the info on the rootstock!

Thanks Adam for the grafting on pond apple info!

Thanks,
Ed

[HMHausman]

Looked like annona glabra at excalibur...but had horrible galling and disgusting look about the rootstock and graft union...

Although the tree was healthy (nice above graft union, nice foliage) and fruiting....so pond apple may be an acceptable rootstock.

I think best is illama/illam, or illama/A. reticulata....also respectable candidates include atemoya seedlings, both cherimoya and sugar apple of course...am I'm sure a few other Annona sp. would be just fine to graft onto...

My Genova Red is on pond apple and the graft union/compatability is not good.  The tree will survive and fruit, but, as you saw at my house, Ed.....the graft union is very ugly.  The glabra rootstock will grow twice or more as fast as the diverifolia.  I totally agree with Adam's recomendations for better root stock candidates.

Harry

[Cookie Monster]

Ed, how is your fairchild doing?

[edself65]

Yeah after seeing yours Harry I changed my mind about using pond Apple as rootstock. I plan to try various annona rootstock.

Thanks,

Ed

[Jacob13]

Hey Ed,

I saw your post about looking for an ilama and wanted to let you know that I have a source here is California for some "Genova Red" ilamas.  The trees are about 3' feet tall and are grafted onto Cherimoya rootstock, so there shouldn't be any problem with the Cold Hardiness.  The trees are $125.00.  I too have been looking for a "Genova Red" ilama for about 2-3 years and have finally find one.  I just thought I'd let you know in case you were interested.

Let me know if you are interested.

Talk to you soon,

Jacob

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Make sure to buy a hacksaw and novicaine to!  They are going to need one of your arms, and also a leg.   

[Cookie Monster]

Yikes. No doubt. That's the most expensive ilama I've heard of.

[Jacob13]

No Kidding,

Totally, ridiculous, I just thought I would put it out there since I know he was looking for one. Same guy wants $150.00 for a 5' Foot tall 'Kampong Mauve' Sugar Apple.

Im just the Messenger   

[FloridaGreenMan]

I had a Genova Red for a long time and fruited it for 3 or 4 years before a storm severely damaged it.  Mine was also grafted on A.glabra and the graft union was a bit ugly as has been mentioned. The fruits were awesome and tasted like a raspberry vanilla pudding with zero grit. My main complaint was that some years it aborted quite a few fruit. Roger Meyer's tree in Calif was grown  from budwood that I gave him. Another local friend nearby fruited the Pajapita cultivar but the Genova was superior to that one. It is very cold tolerant. The photo is from my fruits here in Florida.       

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Hi Ed,
Contact Mr. Roger Meyer....I was there about a month ago and he has a few genova red at 4-5', 5 gallon for $35.
cheers
DT

Called Roger, he's a nice fellow I must say.

He don't got Illama though (at least not as described)

I actually am going to try to help him get budwood of some annonas.

[nullzero]

Hi Ed,
Contact Mr. Roger Meyer....I was there about a month ago and he has a few genova red at 4-5', 5 gallon for $35.
cheers
DT

Called Roger, he's a nice fellow I must say.

He don't got Illama though (at least not as described)

I actually am going to try to help him get budwood of some annonas.

Roger is a very nice guy, I have bought several trees from him in the past few years.  He is a great resource for Southern California, his prices are always reasonable.