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Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« on: February 21, 2017, 07:33:21 PM »
Got this T. bicolor that is 8 years old ( 4 - 5 meters tall ) and so far nothing , just a long stem looking for light , not even side branches . I must say it is shaded by a huge Kwai Muk .

Did anybody ever graft this on a regular cacao ?
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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 07:46:42 PM »
hi

Usually die, they are incomparable I was in Vitória in an experimental station of the government of Espirito Santo State and I talked with a agronomist specialized in theobromas and I asked this question, with time the graft dies.

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Got this T. bicolor that is 8 years old ( 4 - 5 meters tall ) and so far nothing , just a long stem looking for light , not even side branches . I must say it is shaded by a huge Kwai Muk .

Did anybody ever graft this on a regular cacao ?
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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 12:49:12 PM »
Luc :
  Yo tengo un bicolor tambien de 4 a 5 mts de altura sobreviviente de 2, lo compre en 1997 y florea pero nunca a frutado...

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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 01:58:54 PM »
According to this paper you can only graft it on theobroma speciosum rootstock or on the same sp.

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http://www.fruitlovers.com/Fruit/TheobromaHybrids.pdf
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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 06:29:31 PM »
Got this T. bicolor that is 8 years old ( 4 - 5 meters tall ) and so far nothing , just a long stem looking for light , not even side branches . I must say it is shaded by a huge Kwai Muk .

Did anybody ever graft this on a regular cacao ?
You might need another tree for cross pollination, as with cacaco, some trees are self sterile. It might have flowered and you not noticed it, as the flowers are up very high and really hard to spot.
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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 07:42:56 PM »
theobroma speciosum, This species of cacao is very complicated to grow, sensitive to the cold of the southeastern Brazil, the purpose is to get a new mucambo planting to cross pollination, it is a beautiful big fruit, but the taste is strange.







According to this paper you can only graft it on theobroma speciosum rootstock or on the same sp.

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http://www.fruitlovers.com/Fruit/TheobromaHybrids.pdf
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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 04:18:42 AM »
theobroma speciosum, This species of cacao is very complicated to grow, sensitive to the cold of the southeastern Brazil, the purpose is to get a new mucambo planting to cross pollination, it is a beautiful big fruit, but the taste is strange.







According to this paper you can only graft it on theobroma speciosum rootstock or on the same sp.

Page 6
http://www.fruitlovers.com/Fruit/TheobromaHybrids.pdf

Thanks for the information Alexandre.
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Re: Grafting T. bicolor on T. cacao
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 02:39:52 PM »
Thank you all for the information .
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