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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 22, 2024, 11:09:58 AM »
Quote from: nattyfroootz on February 22, 2024, 10:35:13 AM
I have a grafted tree with two varieties on it and one of them is yellowing out super hard while the other isnt.

Hey Nate,

Did you check the graft union on both varieties? I’ve had this happen to some of my trees where I rushed my grafting and the union was kinda sloppy. I believe there was a bottleneck effect with the transport of nutrients due to incomplete union formation that caused the slower growth and yellow leaves on my tree.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:50:58 AM »
Quote from: fruit4me on February 22, 2024, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: simon_grow on February 21, 2024, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: fruit4me on February 21, 2024, 04:38:29 PM
Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.


Hey Max, is your tree in the ground or in a pot? Besides the yellowing, I also see some burnt leaf tips towards the back of your picture. Did your trees have any close contact with the trees imported from China? I’ve noticed that the trees that were imported from China and had root knot nematodes tended to have yellow leaves like yours. I wonder if any cross contamination may have occurred with RKN infested trees?

Simon
Hi Simon, the trees are planted in the ground. It’s all grafted on Californica rootstock. The Scions are from China trees.  I’m positively  sure there’s no cross contamination with the RKN infested trees. Hopefully the trees will be better when Spring comes around. As for the burnt leaf tips, I think I threw down too much fertilizer pellets.

Hey Max,

I have noticed that some trees grafted onto Californica rootstock yellowed as it got colder. My Dongkui on Californica started yellowing a bit when I got frost and it seems to be recovering a bit now that the cold has passed and the sun is showing. I have other trees grafted onto Californica rootstock that didn’t yellow at all however.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:45:17 AM »
Quote from: spaugh on February 22, 2024, 12:11:29 AM
Simon, I never got a male piece to put on it.  The plant got pretty big.  It may not work that well to hang a male piece on it.  I will probably need to chop it way back to get the new piece to grow.

Hey Brad, you can grab some scions from my Hermaphrodite next time you’re in the neighborhood. You could also stop by to collect some pollen if you want to try to get some fruit this year. I would actually recommend doing a high graft for male Yangmei scions grafted onto female varieties because these trees grow so fast and it would be beneficial to have a larger percentage of the tree remain the female variety.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 21, 2024, 10:42:09 PM »
Quote from: fruit4me on February 21, 2024, 04:38:29 PM
Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.


Hey Max, is your tree in the ground or in a pot? Besides the yellowing, I also see some burnt leaf tips towards the back of your picture. Did your trees have any close contact with the trees imported from China? I’ve noticed that the trees that were imported from China and had root knot nematodes tended to have yellow leaves like yours. I wonder if any cross contamination may have occurred with RKN infested trees?

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 21, 2024, 10:36:42 PM »
Quote from: spaugh on February 21, 2024, 04:15:38 PM
Mine is just starting to make some flowers.  Looks like it will be 1-2 months before it really blooms.



Hey Brad, looking good and healthy. Did you graft any males onto it yet?

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 21, 2024, 03:25:10 PM »
Hey Shane,

How is your Biqi seedling doing? Have you found any male blooms on it yet?

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with chilean guava / ugni molinae dyoff issues?
« on: February 18, 2024, 07:24:48 PM »
When the weather gets hot, best to move them to a cooler spot out of direct mid day sun. Make sure the plants are well watered in hot weather. If your trees are in ground, water well and you can put up some shade or move another potted plant next to it to give it some extra shade. I agree the fruit has a great flavor and smell. I keep my plants in pots so they are easier to move.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 18, 2024, 07:20:28 PM »
Quote from: FV Fruit Freak on February 18, 2024, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Jeramyl on February 17, 2024, 08:20:55 PM
Lots of flowers here too. I love the red.  Can’t remember if male or female (I think female) but I’m still looking for healthy vegetative growth over fruit.  Maybe next year I’ll graft on some scions of opposite sex but it’s fun to have it healthy and thriving!





Rad! What rootstock is it on? Thx

I grafted that one onto Cerifera rootstock.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 09:46:26 PM »
Jeramyl, nice growth! Is that the same Biqi from me? Those are female blooms. Keep up the great growing!

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 05:58:01 PM »
I haven’t seen male and female flowers on any of my plants yet. My Early Hermaphrodite is the only one that is supposed to produce both male and female blooms but so far I’ve only seen male blooms. According to the Chinese resellers/distributors from the group buys, Dongkui and several other varieties are supposed to set fruit on their own. A friend also contacted one of the sellers from a previous group buy and they sent a picture of Dongkui with both male and female blooms.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:21:22 PM »
Here’s the same picture with the supposed fruit circled.



There are several of these on my tree so fingers crossed that these are fruit set and that they can make it to harvest.

My Dongkui, An Hai, White Honey and special variety from a friend are also blooming. Late Rice (Wandao) and Biqi are slightly behind.

Here’s my An Hai blooming like crazy.











Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:07:53 PM »
I believe i have my first fruit set on my Big Black Carbon. I’ve been closely watching these blooms and as the pistil dried up, there is a round swelling at the base of the flower.



Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:01:38 PM »
Hey Rob,

Your plants look super healthy! Hopefully you will get some blooms next year. They should grow very fast in Florida.

RevivalROOts, that is awesome! I found the same thing on some of my Cerifera rootstocks.

My Hermaphrodite tree is going bonkers with Male blooms but these rain storms we get every other week is just washing away and soaking most the pollen which seems to be delaying any wind pollination.

I have multiple blooming hermaphrodite trees so I surrounded my grafted females with them in the hopes that there will be a better chance of wind pollination on the dryer days.

Here’s a couple shots of my Hermaphrodite’s male blooms.








 
My Hermaphrodite is also still pushing new buds so hopefully the pollen will still be available when my later varieties open their blooms.

Hermaphrodite with some buds at various stages of growth








Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Are The Tastiest Jabos, 2024?
« on: February 08, 2024, 11:00:02 AM »
I have Sabara, Grimal, Red Hybrid, Restinga and Paulista. Only my Sabara, Red Hybrid and Grimal have fruited. My favorite is the red hybrid because of the flavor, sugar acid balance and thinner skin compared to the other varieties.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 07:36:24 PM »
I think pinkturtle means it’s on original Rubra rootstock from the group buy.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 06:30:03 PM »
An Hai blooms opening up







Dongkui blooms





Pollen from male blooms before the rains





Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 03, 2024, 06:08:05 PM »
Hey pinkturtle, nice blooms on your tree. I’m surprised it bloomed with so little leaves on the tree. I see lots of new vegetative growth as well so hopefully it will grow out a lot this year.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2024, 10:24:29 PM »
I determined the sex of my seedling Yangmei trees by sending leaf samples to Marta Matvienko for testing. I’m not sure if she is still doing it and there is a minimum number of samples required. I forgot if it was 5 or 10. Seedling plants may or may not produce good quality fruit and commercial orchards use grafted trees to ensure quality of fruit and good production.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best sugarcane varieties for juicing in San Diego
« on: January 30, 2024, 10:14:02 PM »
Quote from: spaugh on January 30, 2024, 07:02:40 PM
I have a manualmjuicer I want to sell if you want to buy one cheap.  I bought a motorized one and dont use the manualmone anymore.

Hey Brad, which unit did you end up getting and would you recommend it? I also have the manual press but I installed a motor on it. I sometimes juice 5-10 gallons at a time and manually pressing it is tedious. The manual press is great in an emergency situation where there is no power.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2024, 12:31:09 AM »
Thanks everyone! Nate, your Biqi is looking great. I foresee Yangmei fruits at a future fruit tasting. I hope Weee will have more Yangmei fruit for sale this year. I’m so addicted to Yangmei and can’t wait for the day when we can pick fruit off our own trees.

Someone should jump on Nate’s scions. It’s good for practicing your grafting skills and you can get a male/female from it.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best sugarcane varieties for juicing in San Diego
« on: January 28, 2024, 09:49:51 PM »
Anytime Nate, sugarcane juice is always a hit at the fruit tasting parties! Now I’m crazy a nice cold glass myself. I guess I’ll have to chop some canes soon and get the juicer out. Sugarcane juice is absolutely incredible, especially on a hot Sumner day after working on the yard.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best sugarcane varieties for juicing in San Diego
« on: January 27, 2024, 05:11:06 PM »
San Diego Yellow is my favorite for pressing. I’ve experimented with about 10 different varieties and the SD Yellow grows well, is very sweet and doesn’t fall apart when pressed like the softer purple and black varieties. The canes that have bulges aren’t ideal for pressing. Brad has a stripped cane that he says is super good but I have not tried that variety yet.

Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 24, 2024, 05:37:26 PM »
Here is an update of my Early hermaphrodite. I didn’t realize how beautiful the bright reddish pink blooms looked against the dark green foliage.









Some pictures of the new foliage. The lighter color of the new leaves looks reminiscent of a flower.




Here’s a more zoomed in picture of the female blooms/pistils on my Big Black Carbon.



When I saw the female pistils open on my Big Black Carbon, I immediately moved the pot next to my blooming hermaphrodite.


Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 18, 2024, 08:40:35 PM »
First female blooms to open is the Big Black Carbon grafted onto Cerifera rootstock. You can see the pinkish red stigmas at the base of the buds.



Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 18, 2024, 09:06:02 AM »
Kankan,

Grafting some of your rootstock shoots onto those other rootstocks is a good idea. You could end up with a male or you could get lucky and get a seedling that produces good quality fruit.

I don’t know what they use in the commercial orchards in China but I assume it’s just random seeds. From doing research on other fruit crops however, I know that the rootstocks can affect growth rate, production and quality of the fruit. This doesn’t mean that it does the same for Yangmei but there is the possibility.

Simon

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