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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2013, 10:51:02 PM »
Hi,

After reading about others who grow lucuma, I am beginning to think that 1 solitary lucuma tree may not be enough. I found several accounts of growers with only 1 tree at about 10 years old/8-9ft tall. One person only gets 1 fruit each year and other person only 2 fruits in 3 years. Any thoughts?

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The Fullerton Arboretum has single mature Lucuma tree that is always loaded with fruits. You should check with Alex at Papaya Nursery his father was the one who donated the Lucama to the FA.

http://papayatreenursery.com/

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2013, 11:12:58 PM »
Hi JF,

Wow that's good news! I have a small lucuma plant myself and I got worried that I need at least two. I will check with Alex. I wish I were in that neighborhood.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2013, 11:41:13 PM »
Im getting confuse of canistel,ross sapote and lucuma,what is the main different between these 3 closed relative fruits?
Lets try out this new fruits,Black Tiger

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2013, 11:44:39 PM »
I got mine from Alex. I would get it from him even when it cost more than other places. His plants are healthier and often already flowering or fruiting.

Quail Gardens in San Diego also has an always loaded lucuma. It's of the dry variety that's softball-sized. Alex's is the nice creamy kind that's much smaller.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2013, 12:08:23 AM »
Im getting confuse of canistel,ross sapote and lucuma,what is the main different between these 3 closed relative fruits?

Canistel: Pouteria campechiana
Lucuma: Pouteria obovata
Ross Sapote: Pouteria sp., it's not known for sure if this is a different species from campechiana, a sub species of campechiana, or totoally different species.

Ross sapote and campechiana fruits are very similar. The Ross sapote tends to be moister pulp than most canistels. The lucuma has a little nipple marking on the end which canistel and ross don't have. Lucumas vary from extremely dry to quite moist. The taste of these 3 fruits is very similar. Lucuma is more cold hardy than the others as some lucumas come from highlands of Andes. Canistel originates in Mexico. Ross Sapote originates in Costa Rica. So i'm thinking Lucuma is the most sub tropical, canistel in between, and Ross sapote the most tropical.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2013, 12:17:25 AM »
The lucuma has a little nipple marking on the end which canistel and ross don't have.
You mean the ring of scar tissue on the flower end of the fruit?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2013, 12:25:23 AM »
Hi fyliu,

About the dry and the creamy kind of lucuma, do they taste the same?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2013, 12:58:50 AM »
I thought the dry one tastes like sweet potato. The smaller rounder ones with more moisture are supposed to be better.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #58 on: March 20, 2013, 01:10:02 AM »
The lucuma has a little nipple marking on the end which canistel and ross don't have.
You mean the ring of scar tissue on the flower end of the fruit?

Yes.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #59 on: March 20, 2013, 01:17:17 AM »
I thought the dry one tastes like sweet potato. The smaller rounder ones with more moisture are supposed to be better.

The dry lucumas are not for eating out of hand. They are used for processing. They are much drier than the driest of the canistels! Only the moist ones are eaten out of hand. You can buy Lucuma powder at many health food stores. It's used for baking, making deserts, ice cream, adding to smoothies. Hard to describe the taste of the powder but i find it very appealing.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #60 on: March 20, 2013, 01:17:41 AM »
Lucumas generally arn't eaten out of hand are they? Isn't the powder used in milkshakes and other stuff like that. So get the dry easy to find kind. That's what I'm about to resort to.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #61 on: March 20, 2013, 01:19:43 AM »
Lucumas generally arn't eaten out of hand are they? Isn't the powder used in milkshakes and other stuff like that. So get the dry easy to find kind. That's what I'm about to resort to.

The moist lucumas are very pleasant to eat out of hand, but are much harder to find. For some reason almost all the plants in USA are of the dry type.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #62 on: March 20, 2013, 03:35:26 AM »
Maybe the dry type is hardier? Alex sells the more moist type but I guess it's because his father went through the trouble of collecting those.

I got a grafted tree with flowers last year and I'm seeing 1 bud right now. Spring's just starting so that's a good sign.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #63 on: March 20, 2013, 05:53:37 AM »
Maybe the dry type is hardier? Alex sells the more moist type but I guess it's because his father went through the trouble of collecting those.

I got a grafted tree with flowers last year and I'm seeing 1 bud right now. Spring's just starting so that's a good sign.

I  believe that is right, the upland varieties tend to be dry types, moist types are lowland types.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #64 on: March 20, 2013, 11:56:21 PM »
I got a grafted tree with flowers last year
How much was it?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2013, 12:07:58 AM »
Xeno I PM'd you but I'm not sure how much it actually was. I decided I just had to have one so I got one and it happened to be one of the hottest days of last year. All his plants were looking tired and the leaves on mine were all drooping by the time I got home but it recovered just fine after a couple weeks in the shade.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2013, 05:14:26 AM »
Hello guys,

For those who want to try Organic Raw Lucuma Powder, I really advise you to go to my friend's website: Maretai Organics
Here is the link : http://www.maretai.com.au/lucuma-powder.html

Their offers really worth it and you can be sure to have a a high quality product!

Don't forget that you can do whatever you want with this powder as it is very versatile! It mixes very well with many dishes and foods such as cakes, ice creams, drinks, shakes, baked goods and many others.

See you!

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2013, 10:01:45 PM »
I also noticed that it was not lucuma.  I was waiting for someone to mention it.
They were eating matisia cordata also known as  quararibea cordata. The common name used in Brasil is "Sapota-do-Solimoes (solimoes is the name of a river in the amazon area).

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2013, 11:29:01 PM »
Fyliu, just wanted to let you know that I got one scion of your Lucuma to take on my tree, I try to get a pic soon. Thanks again! That tree is still holding the first one fruit! :) ;D 8)

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2013, 04:55:14 PM »
Luis, are you growing lucuma?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2013, 05:19:50 PM »
Luis, are you growing lucuma?
No, infortunately i don't get any seed yet, but i want it a lot!  ;D You have it don't you? You have a good experience with lucuma?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2013, 12:39:40 PM »