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Grafting Cambuca
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:10:14 AM »
Hi fellow fruit tree lovers I was wondering if anyone could advise a
suitable rootstock for grafting Plinia Edulis on to . Will they graft on to
any of the common Myrciaria  ?

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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2018, 07:38:51 AM »
Though I am not a fruit tree lover (more of a lustful exploiter) I think I know the answer.
I think intercompatibility exists with Plinia trunciflora as well as Plinia peruviana.
Rock in Taiwan insists that cambuca can also be grafted onto Plinia cauliflora (regular jaboticaba).
Since the taxonomy shake-up, Myrciaria is a separate genus populated only by cambui/tenella, blue jabo/vexator, guaquica, strigipes, yellow jabo...)
« Last Edit: June 18, 2018, 07:40:48 AM by Mango Stein »
Eugenia luschnathiana = CURUIRI.    Talisia esculenta = PITOMBA
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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 07:51:49 AM »
Thanks Mango that sounds very promising.I might even try Sabara to see how it goes

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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 11:55:03 AM »
Though I am not a fruit tree lover (more of a lustful exploiter) I think I know the answer.
I think intercompatibility exists with Plinia trunciflora as well as Plinia peruviana.
Rock in Taiwan insists that cambuca can also be grafted onto Plinia cauliflora (regular jaboticaba).
Since the taxonomy shake-up, Myrciaria is a separate genus populated only by cambui/tenella, blue jabo/vexator, guaquica, strigipes, yellow jabo...)

Plinia peruviana is now the accepted name for Jabuticaba de Cabinho, so P. trunciflora is a synonym.

I used to think cambuca was incompatible with the common jaboticaba, Plinia jaboticaba var. Sabara, but come to find out, it is compatible, or at least somewhat.  I have heard that they will suddenly reject the scion in certain cases, after about 4yrs of solid growth, where others never have an issue.  I had tried grafting P. edulis onto P. jaboticaba several times in the past with no success, but recently I had a graft take with no issues.
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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2018, 08:48:48 PM »

Plinia peruviana is now the accepted name for Jabuticaba de Cabinho, so P. trunciflora is a synonym.


Edit: Database has been changed since my original post. But the peruviana vs trunciflora dispute is ongoing and may change again as Plinia expert Aline Stadnik from Salvador is in the process of submitting a paper on the validity of P. trunciflora.
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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2018, 06:20:55 PM »

Plinia peruviana is now the accepted name for Jabuticaba de Cabinho, so P. trunciflora is a synonym.


nope

well here reads something to the contrary.

http://theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-161390
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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2018, 07:03:02 PM »
Nice, thanks for update Adam ;)

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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2018, 07:31:02 PM »
That has not been updated yet. theplantlist.org is not even Kew's primary taxonomy resource.

Try http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/?page.size=120&q=plinia much slicker and up-to-date.
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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2018, 10:03:15 PM »
That has not been updated yet. theplantlist.org is not even Kew's primary taxonomy resource.

Try http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/?page.size=120&q=plinia much slicker and up-to-date.


Whatever it is, I've been selling it as Plinia trunciflora, and it has dangly fruits...the variety i got takes long time to fruit...but makes big fruit with thin skin, and several small seeds.
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Re: Grafting Cambuca
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2018, 12:29:19 PM »
Mango Stein, great link thanks for posting!