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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: fruitlovers on August 01, 2014, 12:31:42 AM
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indian-scientists-develop-seedless-mangoes/1/373573.html (http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indian-scientists-develop-seedless-mangoes/1/373573.html)
First came seedless grapes. Now, Indian scientists have developed
what could be the ultimate delicacy - a seedless mango which is
finely textured and juicy, with a rich, sweet and distinctive
flavour when mature.
"We have developed a seedless mango variety from hybrids of mango
varieties Ratna and Alphonso," V.B. Patel,chairman of the
horticulture department at the Bihar Agriculture University(BAU)
at Sabour in Bhagalpur district, told IANS.
Trials of the new variety, named Sindhu, are under way at
different locations in the country but the result of the one at
BAU suggests it could be suitable for both integrated
horticulture and kitchen gardening.
"We are happy and enthuastic as well as confident and hopeful of
improving the seedless mango variety," Patel said.
He said that an average fruit weighs 200 grams and its pulp,
which is yellowish in colour, has less fibre than other mango
varieties.
He said the trials of the Sindhu variety, originally developed at
the regional fruit research station of the Konkan Krishi
Vidyapeeth at Dapoli in Maharashtra's Konkan region, has thrown
up good fruiting on a three-year-old plant this year. It
generally grows in bunch and the fruit matures in the middle of
July.
BAU vice chancellor M.L. Choudhary said the university has, on an
experimental basis, decided to recreate plants of this variety
and make them available to Bihar's mango growers during the next
season.
"The seedless variety also has good export potential. The
university would provide quality plants to mango growers in 2015
to exploit the export market," he added.
Patel said our trial has successfully established that seedless
mango could be grown in local condition.
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Hoping I can procure some seeds from our Indian friends ;) :P
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Seedless mango means this cultivar will have no seed at all.
One should get scion but it is difficult to transport it to Australia.
Roy
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I never saw the huge, inedible mango seed as a minus to enjoying it... but it's cool that option is possible.
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Any updates?
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Any updates?
We're growing Sindhu now in West Palm. Probably won't crop for another 2 years though.
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indian-scientists-develop-seedless-mangoes/1/373573.html (http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indian-scientists-develop-seedless-mangoes/1/373573.html)
First came seedless grapes. Now, Indian scientists have developed
what could be the ultimate delicacy - a seedless mango which is
finely textured and juicy, with a rich, sweet and distinctive
flavour when mature.
"We have developed a seedless mango variety from hybrids of mango
varieties Ratna and Alphonso," V.B. Patel,chairman of the
horticulture department at the Bihar Agriculture University(BAU)
at Sabour in Bhagalpur district, told IANS.
Trials of the new variety, named Sindhu, are under way at
different locations in the country but the result of the one at
BAU suggests it could be suitable for both integrated
horticulture and kitchen gardening.
"We are happy and enthuastic as well as confident and hopeful of
improving the seedless mango variety," Patel said.
He said that an average fruit weighs 200 grams and its pulp,
which is yellowish in colour, has less fibre than other mango
varieties.
He said the trials of the Sindhu variety, originally developed at
the regional fruit research station of the Konkan Krishi
Vidyapeeth at Dapoli in Maharashtra's Konkan region, has thrown
up good fruiting on a three-year-old plant this year. It
generally grows in bunch and the fruit matures in the middle of
July.
BAU vice chancellor M.L. Choudhary said the university has, on an
experimental basis, decided to recreate plants of this variety
and make them available to Bihar's mango growers during the next
season.
"The seedless variety also has good export potential. The
university would provide quality plants to mango growers in 2015
to exploit the export market," he added.
Patel said our trial has successfully established that seedless
mango could be grown in local condition.
Cool, now im hoping to meet more indian people who would share these skinds of infos like youuu God Bless
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Any updates?
We're growing Sindhu now in West Palm. Probably won't crop for another 2 years though.
Awesome!
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Seedless mango, whoda thunk it? What's next? Treeless, skinless types? :-)
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Won't be happy until they develop a Money Tree. ;)
THEN I CAN HAVE ALLLLLLLLL THE SEEDLESS MANGOS I WANT!
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Seedless mango, whoda thunk it? What's next? Treeless, skinless types? :-)
Weirder yet--there is a skinless jackfruit. :o
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How would a program go about 'developing' a seedless mango? Seems like the kind of thing that would develop itself, someone come upon it and start propagating it.
Peter
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You can use irradiation to cause mutations or use chemicals to alter the number of chromosomes. Interesting how seedless watermelons are created.
Simon
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Sindhu isn't truly "seedless" fwiw. Just produced fruit with very small, underdeveloped seeds.
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Seeded grapes are better than the seedless ones. Seeded watermelons are superior but get more difficult to find each year. Seeded grapes are a rare find these days. People are too damn effin lazy n stooopid to deal with seeds. Same type people text while driving and cross the street without looking at traffic because they are looking at their phone.
Thank God my backyard muscadine vines are seeded same as all muscadines.
Aldi tries tohave seeded and seedless watermelons though last year they didn't have the seeded ones as consistently as usual. I believe Aldis was not to blame, it was a bad year for the seeded watermelon crop
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Sindhu isn't truly "seedless" fwiw. Just produced fruit with very small, underdeveloped seeds.
That's what I heard as well, it's more of a thin underdeveloped seed. Frankie over in Hawaii is supposed to have a good sized tree.
Simon
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Is there a specific reason or technique to get seedless mango or mango with undeveloped seed?
We have one seedling mango at home, that had been growing since 1998-99, but never fruited. The trunk diameter is not less than 15 inches.
Finally i was thinking to trim all it's branches and to graft different varieties on newly developed branches. But before i do that, last year i thought of trying to induce flowering.
I sprayed (in December)some branches that were within reach, with potassium nitrate (Multinitrate 13-00-45 http://www.mahafeedwsf.net/npk-foliar-spray-fertilizers.html (http://www.mahafeedwsf.net/npk-foliar-spray-fertilizers.html) ) twice at the interval of 1 week.
Few weeks later it bloomed and set some fruits. Around 20 fruits developed until maturity / ripe - and they dropped by itself, even with green skin (in May). Those fruits were not huge, but around 200 grams and the taste was very nice. Interestingly, the seed was very thin, in fact, there was no real seed inside the husk, for all of them.
So, the question is: was the seed remained undeveloped since the tree was forced to bloom artificially or is it safe for me to declare "I have developed another of seedless mango variety :-)"
This year, i did the same, sprayed the whole tree with the same, but unfortunately got no flowers at all. So, i already trimmed the top branches to prepare them for grafting and left the lower branches as it is just to see if it flowers next year and gets the same, so called seedless fruit.
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By the way, the so called seedless Sindhu mango variety was developed and released back in 1992, by DR . BALASAHEB SAWANT KONKAN KRISHI VIDYAPEETH, DAPOLI, DIST. RATNAGIRI.
Grafted plants of that variety in the university or at their Regional Fruit Research Station, Vengurla is available for 50 rupees each, that is less than a $.
http://www.dbskkv.org/Research/Varieties_Fruit-Crops.html (http://www.dbskkv.org/Research/Varieties_Fruit-Crops.html)
http://www.dbskkv.org/Research/Seed_Planting_Material_Availablity.html (http://www.dbskkv.org/Research/Seed_Planting_Material_Availablity.html)
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It can be from artificial selection for smaller seed or various techniques causing mutations such as irradiation for bud mutations such as how they developed Tango Tangerine or the use of polyploid plants such as how they create seedless watermelons.
On a side note, here in California where Mango is marginal, the cold weather or some other factor I have yet to consider seems to create extreme fruit set with many of the fruit having extraordinarily small atrophied seeds. Many of my Glenn fruit have tiny tiny seeds and I get nubbins on my LZ that have paper thin seeds.
Simon
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I am growing Sindhu. It is a super turtle in CA conditions. When it was grafted 2 years ago on Malina, the trunk of Manila was 0.5", now trunk is 3 inches, while growth is very little on graft. you can see the union looking like upside down funnel, lol. It put up 3 fruits last year, very small size and then aborted.
It flowered heavy this season again, but doesnt look good. It does has seed, I have fruited Melee (Pen Sen Mun Seedling) and Amarpali to have paper thin seeds, so there is nothing special about Sindhu. time will tell.
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Any updates?
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Alex is growing it, and I thought there was mention of it fruiting this year.
www.tropicalacresfarms.com (http://www.tropicalacresfarms.com)
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Sindhu Has a good amount of fruit on it now relative to the tree size.
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Sindhu Has a good amount of fruit on it now relative to the tree size.
How is taste of sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
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Sindhu Has a good amount of fruit on it now relative to the tree size.
How is taste of sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
Will have to let you know in July because that’s probably when these are maturing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj/059-A34-A7-B610-4-BEC-8-BF6-B99505983137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj)
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Sindhu Has a good amount of fruit on it now relative to the tree size.
How is taste of sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
Will have to let you know in July because that’s probably when these are maturing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj/059-A34-A7-B610-4-BEC-8-BF6-B99505983137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj)
Hi Squam256,
Have you tasted Sindhu? How is its taste?
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Where can you get sindhu in the us??
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Sindhu Has a good amount of fruit on it now relative to the tree size.
How is taste of sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
Will have to let you know in July because that’s probably when these are maturing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj/059-A34-A7-B610-4-BEC-8-BF6-B99505983137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj)
Hi Squam256,
Have you tasted Sindhu? How is its taste?
You might have to PM him (unless you're reading this, Alex).
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Sindhu Has a good amount of fruit on it now relative to the tree size.
How is taste of sindhu compared to its parent Alphanso?
Will have to let you know in July because that’s probably when these are maturing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj/059-A34-A7-B610-4-BEC-8-BF6-B99505983137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cng9Mgrj)
Hi Squam256,
Have you tasted Sindhu? How is its taste?
Quite good. Very similar to Alphonso, definitely in that Alphonso/Kesar flavor group.
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Quite good. Very similar to Alphonso, definitely in that Alphonso/Kesar flavor group.
Hello Squam,
Another question related to the 'Sindhu' –but apart from its taste similarities to the 'Alphonso group' . . . .
Is 'Sindhu' fibrous or is it largely fiberless?
Is the fibrousness of 'Sindhu' fruits comparable to any other mango cultivars in its related 'Alphonso' group, –or to any other mango cultivars which display a reduced seed size? Or is fibrousness unrelated to seed size?
Just got curious about this 'Sindhu' cultivar after reading today's replies to this thread –and seeing that the thread started back in 2014.
Paul M.
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Quite good. Very similar to Alphonso, definitely in that Alphonso/Kesar flavor group.
Hello Squam,
Another question related to the 'Sindhu' –but apart from its taste similarities to the 'Alphonso group' . . . .
Is 'Sindhu' fibrous or is it largely fiberless?
Is the fibrousness of 'Sindhu' fruits comparable to any other mango cultivars in its related 'Alphonso' group, –or to any other mango cultivars which display a reduced seed size? Or is fibrousness unrelated to seed size?
Just got curious about this 'Sindhu' cultivar after reading today's replies to this thread –and seeing that the thread started back in 2014.
Paul M.
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No noticeable fiber in the flesh.
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In release note of Sindhu it is said it is fibreless.
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I don't know, but I never like seedless watermelon or grapes. I rather eat regular and tasty watermelon and wine making grapes with rich flavor but plenty seeds. You will lose your tongue eating those seedless stuffs.