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Temperate Fruit & Orchards => Temperate Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: JF on January 15, 2015, 07:01:54 PM

Title: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 15, 2015, 07:01:54 PM
One of the best fruit in the world......
I decided to axe all my undesirable guavas and planted the best hybrid in the last 20 years.

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_7913.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: BMc on January 15, 2015, 07:07:16 PM
Its pretty incredible. I put one in two years back. Fruited well first year and nothing held this year. Conflicting reports on its chill requirements have led me to give it a go. If I don't see decent fruit next year I'm gonna have to dig it up. Its vigorous here, but is not attacked by the same pests as peaches and nectarines, so its almost perfect if the whole fruiting thing works out...

I hope yours bears in abundance!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: nullzero on January 15, 2015, 07:11:34 PM
I always loved the plouts and other hybrids, it must be pretty good from what you say :).
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 15, 2015, 07:22:40 PM
Its pretty incredible. I put one in two years back. Fruited well first year and nothing held this year. Conflicting reports on its chill requirements have led me to give it a go. If I don't see decent fruit next year I'm gonna have to dig it up. Its vigorous here, but is not attacked by the same pests as peaches and nectarines, so its almost perfect if the whole fruiting thing works out...

I hope yours bears in abundance!


thx Bruce
the reports from here is that they fruit in abundance but with the climate changing every year I wouldn't be surprise if it's short lived.

Nullzy
this is a nectaplum hybrid check out some of the reviews.

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_7902.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: tanguy on January 16, 2015, 12:32:52 AM
One of the best fruit in the world......
I decided to axe all my undesirable guavas and planted the best hybrid in the last 20 years.

([url]http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_7913.jpg[/url])


How were the fruits of your tree, Frank?
 I purchased 4 trees of this nectaplum more than 2 years ago (in 5-gallon pots). The first year when they were still in pots, I got about 4 fruits each pots but they were not very good. So, I sold 2 pots. The second year (last year) I put 1 tree in the ground and the fruits from that tree were still not very good, almost the same as the first year's fruits. Fruits from my other little trees such as Snow Queen nectarine, Artic Star nectarine and Double Delight nectarine were much better. I hope my nectaplum fruits will be better in the next couple years (when the trees get bigger).
Tam
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: venturabananas on January 16, 2015, 12:45:56 AM
This plant was terrible in my yard.  Bland fruit and the plant was a brown rot magnet.  I dug it up and tossed it after 3 years of giving it a shot.  I'll take Snow Queen nectarine over Spice Zee any day!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 16, 2015, 10:10:11 AM
One of the best fruit in the world......
I decided to axe all my undesirable guavas and planted the best hybrid in the last 20 years.

([url]http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_7913.jpg[/url])


How were the fruits of your tree, Frank?
 I purchased 4 trees of this nectaplum more than 2 years ago (in 5-gallon pots). The first year when they were still in pots, I got about 4 fruits each pots but they were not very good. So, I sold 2 pots. The second year (last year) I put 1 tree in the ground and the fruits from that tree were still not very good, almost the same as the first year's fruits. Fruits from my other little trees such as Snow Queen nectarine, Artic Star nectarine and Double Delight nectarine were much better. I hope my nectaplum fruits will be better in the next couple years (when the trees get bigger).
Tam


Thanks for you input Tam and Ventura. Spice zee was recommended by a tropical fruit expert the owner of Park Hill Orchard in Escondido and he's been after me for a few years to plant out more stone fruits. He spays his trees when they are dormant with lime sulfer or cooper and never had any issue with brown rot or anything else. I welcome all inputs I like to know your experience with spice zee nectaplum.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Bush2Beach on January 16, 2015, 11:11:53 AM
That's prime tropical fruit territory your taking up with that stone fruit. You can go buy zee spice nectaplums at the market but not any of the other awesome fruits coming from your wonderful yard in the highly desirable climate zone for sub tropicals. Any one can grow stone fruits! Your pushing the envelope with all this killer rare fruit and got talked into planting an old stone fruit  ;)  I thought your yard gets less than 100 chill hours and rarely below 45 degree. Either way from the looks of your yard you'll figure out how to fruit it there.
The grass is always greener I guess. If only my Annonas grew that fast, or I could fruit a mango..
I have yet to see Pluerry's sold anywhere , that is one to add to the yard if you want to taste.
http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/sweet-treat-pluerry-interspecific-plum (http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/sweet-treat-pluerry-interspecific-plum)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: BMc on January 16, 2015, 04:49:56 PM

(http://s16.postimg.org/hd9upnv5d/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hd9upnv5d/)

Here is mine. When perfectly ripe they are amazing. Less than perfect ripeness will yield bland mealy fryut. Like I said, it's got one more year to show if it is a worthwhile producer in my climate.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: ClayMango on January 16, 2015, 06:55:55 PM
That's prime tropical fruit territory your taking up with that stone fruit. You can go buy zee spice nectaplums at the market but not any of the other awesome fruits coming from your wonderful yard in the highly desirable climate zone for sub tropicals. Any one can grow stone fruits! Your pushing the envelope with all this killer rare fruit and got talked into planting an old stone fruit  ;)  I thought your yard gets less than 100 chill hours and rarely below 45 degree. Either way from the looks of your yard you'll figure out how to fruit it there.
The grass is always greener I guess. If only my Annonas grew that fast, or I could fruit a mango..
I have yet to see Pluerry's sold anywhere , that is one to add to the yard if you want to taste.
[url]http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/sweet-treat-pluerry-interspecific-plum[/url] ([url]http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/sweet-treat-pluerry-interspecific-plum[/url])


I've heard from several people there are some amazing stone fruits out there...Going to give a few a try that a friend mentioned to me out there in Escondido :)

Edit* JF if you dont get enough Chill hours in the next few years, I'll come dig it up for you :)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: venturabananas on January 16, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
Thanks for you input Tam and Ventura. Spice zee was recommended by a tropical fruit expert the owner of Park Hill Orchard in Escondido and he's been after me for a few years to plant out more stone fruits. He spays his trees when they are dormant with lime sulfer or cooper and never had any issue with brown rot or anything else. I welcome all inputs I like to know your experience with spice zee nectaplum.

Some people who really know fruits rave about Spice Zee.  Maybe it is a climate thing.  I don't get much heat where I am along the coast.  But I get a lot of humidity, and even though I spray copper and sulfur, I can't eliminate brown rot.  Virtually every stone fruit in my neighborhood has it to some degree.  So there was no point keeping an especially susceptible plant that I wasn't enjoying the fruit from.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 16, 2015, 10:28:47 PM
That's prime tropical fruit territory your taking up with that stone fruit. You can go buy zee spice nectaplums at the market but not any of the other awesome fruits coming from your wonderful yard in the highly desirable climate zone for sub tropicals. Any one can grow stone fruits! Your pushing the envelope with all this killer rare fruit and got talked into planting an old stone fruit  ;)  I thought your yard gets less than 100 chill hours and rarely below 45 degree. Either way from the looks of your yard you'll figure out how to fruit it there.
The grass is always greener I guess. If only my Annonas grew that fast, or I could fruit a mango..
I have yet to see Pluerry's sold anywhere , that is one to add to the yard if you want to taste.
[url]http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/sweet-treat-pluerry-interspecific-plum[/url] ([url]http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/sweet-treat-pluerry-interspecific-plum[/url])


I've heard from several people there are some amazing stone fruits out there...Going to give a few a try that a friend mentioned to me out there in Escondido :)

Clay

you should listen to your friend in Escondido he knows what he's talking about.....a home grown stone fruit is as good as any mango,actually, any tropical fruit :D
go to our scion exchange in the OC Fairground and pick up some scions,

Edit* JF if you dont get enough Chill hours in the next few years, I'll come dig it up for you :)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: simon_grow on January 16, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Nice pick up JF. My friend has all the new hybrids planted at his yard and they fruit very heavily in general so they need thinning. Before he knew about thinning, his fruit were bland because of overproduction. After thinning and addition of potassium fertilizers, his fruit quality has dramatically increased with much sweeter taste. Please keep us updated JF!

Simon
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: merce3 on January 17, 2015, 11:40:44 AM
i use serenade on my stone fruits and it seems to keep the rot at bay
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 18, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
Nice pick up JF. My friend has all the new hybrids planted at his yard and they fruit very heavily in general so they need thinning. Before he knew about thinning, his fruit were bland because of overproduction. After thinning and addition of potassium fertilizers, his fruit quality has dramatically increased with much sweeter taste. Please keep us updated JF!

Simon

Ok Simon
I'm getting ready to jank out a cherimoya seedling put in gold kist apricot and double delight nectarine
Laguna Hills nursery received their bareroots this Friday go check them out and support Gary in his new location in Santa ana
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: NathanC on January 18, 2015, 07:17:29 PM
Speaking of stone fruits, garden prince almond seems like an nice alternative to places where oil-rich avocado and macadamia nut can't grow, while still having low chill.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: ClayMango on January 19, 2015, 11:53:58 AM
JF

What worthy Guava still remain in your Yard?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 19, 2015, 03:48:16 PM
JF

What worthy Guava still remain in your Yard?


Only guava standing is Jalisco red.....

Here is an aprium, decide with this after consulting with our friend in Escondido, and the 10' cherimoya seedling in the background that will bite the dust. If I get fruits from spice Z and Cot N Candy in July I'll post it.last on the list will be arctic star nectarine another recommendation from our friend.




(http://s16.postimg.org/6a4dr81i9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6a4dr81i9/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: tanguy on January 19, 2015, 07:09:30 PM
JF

What worthy Guava still remain in your Yard?

Only guava standing is Jalisco red.....

Here is an aprium, decide with this after Counseling with our friend in Escondido, and the 10' cherimoya seedling in the background that will bite the dust. If I get fruits from spice Z and Cot N Candy in July I'll post it.last on the list will be arctic star nectarine another recommendation from our friend.


Congratulations Frank.
Aprium fruits are really good.  Costco sales them for $4/lb. I got 2 trees last year. My Cot-N-Candy had 5 fruits and Flavor Delight had 12 fruits (probably because Flavor Delight needs less chilling than Cot-N-Candy). They were excellent, very sweet and flavorful.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 19, 2015, 09:10:02 PM
JF

What worthy Guava still remain in your Yard?




Congratulations Frank.
Aprium fruits are really good.  Costco sales them for $4/lb. I got 2 trees last year. My Cot-N-Candy had 5 fruits and Flavor Delight had 12 fruits (probably because Flavor Delight needs less chilling than Cot-N-Candy). They were excellent, very sweet and flavorful.
I'm glad to hear Tan. You are in riverside so you probably have plenty of chill hours.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: marklee on January 20, 2015, 01:15:19 AM
You guys in So Cal, there are some real good stone fruits that don't ned high chill hours, and even the "Dave Wilson" varieties  that say they need high around 300-500 can fruit where I have my sensitive plants. Take Blenheim or Royal apricot, they are supposed to only fruit at 400 hours, but I can get plenty each summer, and we're lucky to get 100 actual chill hours each year. Even my friends in the warmest parts of Vista have fruited Pawpaw, Pluerry, Stella cherry and some real good apples, pears, and stone fruit crosses. I just ordered the "Nadie" a true cherry plum cross unlike Pluerry.

In order to save space I have 4 rootstocks planted 18-24 inches apart and have grafted about 30 stone fruit varieties. I'm just going to experiment with chill hours and some force bloom methods to see what comes out.

I also grafted a bunch of Asian pears and different apples. My high chill apple varieties do fine here such as Granny Smith (400 hours), Beverly Hills (300 hours) Mutsu (500 hours) Pink lady, Fuji (500 hours).

I have 3 varities of Pawpaw in the ground, all planted in the same hole, they have flowered, but no fruit have set yet.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 21, 2015, 01:12:34 PM
You guys in So Cal, there are some real good stone fruits that don't ned high chill hours, and even the "Dave Wilson" varieties  that say they need high around 300-500 can fruit where I have my sensitive plants. Take Blenheim or Royal apricot, they are supposed to only fruit at 400 hours, but I can get plenty each summer, and we're lucky to get 100 actual chill hours each year. Even my friends in the warmest parts of Vista have fruited Pawpaw, Pluerry, Stella cherry and some real good apples, pears, and stone fruit crosses. I just ordered the "Nadie" a true cherry plum cross unlike Pluerry.

In order to save space I have 4 rootstocks planted 18-24 inches apart and have grafted about 30 stone fruit varieties. I'm just going to experiment with chill hours and some force bloom methods to see what comes out.

I also grafted a bunch of Asian pears and different apples. My high chill apple varieties do fine here such as Granny Smith (400 hours), Beverly Hills (300 hours) Mutsu (500 hours) Pink lady, Fuji (500 hours).

I have 3 varities of Pawpaw in the ground, all planted in the same hole, they have flowered, but no fruit have set yet.

Good luck!


Thanks Mark,very interesting. I wonder if Wilson's nursery is using the Utah chill hours ( below 55F). I count my chill hours by the USDA model(below 45F). I hope to be in Chula Vista in mid February I'll mail you.

Planted out my last stone fruit, Arctic Star

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_2922.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: marklee on January 21, 2015, 10:06:37 PM
Frank, I use the www.getchill.net (http://www.getchill.net) website and check the chill hours, you go to the nearest weather station on wunderground website and get the weather station data and put it into the chill calculator.

Anyway, the Arctic Star is a good variety, Arctic Jay is supposed to be good but needs a lot of chill.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: BMc on January 22, 2015, 02:14:48 AM
Using that calculator my chill hours are:

Below 45 Model: 0 chill hours
Between 45 and 32 Model: 0 chill hours
Utah Model: -1965 chill units
Dynamic Model (experimental): 0 chill portions

So, I guess getting a reliable crop from this tree is probably out of the question here?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: starling1 on January 22, 2015, 03:19:29 AM
Its pretty incredible. I put one in two years back. Fruited well first year and nothing held this year. Conflicting reports on its chill requirements have led me to give it a go. If I don't see decent fruit next year I'm gonna have to dig it up. Its vigorous here, but is not attacked by the same pests as peaches and nectarines, so its almost perfect if the whole fruiting thing works out...

I hope yours bears in abundance!

Mine came with small fruit and held them, but I  was not  able to repeat this success having tried bunch of things. Lasted 2 years in my patch, ended up on the bonfire in the end.  I don't have a good track record with prunus though.

Ot, but you should consider getting the dwarf coconuts from daleys if you haven't already, mine have been racing along and haven't been bothered by the cold whatever. Does this man they will bear? No. But it's a good sign. They're definitely worth a shot in Brisbane, mine aren't even really in a frost protected spot.At worst I'll end up with a pretty palm tree I guess.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 22, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
Using that calculator my chill hours are:

Below 45 Model: 0 chill hours
Between 45 and 32 Model: 0 chill hours
Utah Model: -1965 chill units
Dynamic Model (experimental): 0 chill portions

So, I guess getting a reliable crop from this tree is probably out of the question here?

Bruce

you have to change the dates. so the winter of 2014 in Biggenden from 06/01/2014 to 09/30/2014 had 245 chill hours. here are some other weather stations in IQUEEN and chill hours

jImmY'S 51
Coorparoo 8
Ashgrove 30

La Habra 22 chill hours 25 for homestead FL to date. I'm beginning to wonder if this is going work.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: BMc on January 22, 2015, 06:52:38 PM
Its pretty incredible. I put one in two years back. Fruited well first year and nothing held this year. Conflicting reports on its chill requirements have led me to give it a go. If I don't see decent fruit next year I'm gonna have to dig it up. Its vigorous here, but is not attacked by the same pests as peaches and nectarines, so its almost perfect if the whole fruiting thing works out...

I hope yours bears in abundance!

Mine came with small fruit and held them, but I  was not  able to repeat this success having tried bunch of things. Lasted 2 years in my patch, ended up on the bonfire in the end.  I don't have a good track record with prunus though.

Ot, but you should consider getting the dwarf coconuts from daleys if you haven't already, mine have been racing along and haven't been bothered by the cold whatever. Does this man they will bear? No. But it's a good sign. They're definitely worth a shot in Brisbane, mine aren't even really in a frost protected spot.At worst I'll end up with a pretty palm tree I guess.

Mine set a few dozen small fruit this season but all fell at almond size. Gulf series plums fruit fine, but I'm guessing these are higher chill.
I've got the green and gold malay dwarf. The green is much more vigorous than the gold. There are producing talls around Newmarket, so I'm hoping these will be fine a few kms away.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: BMc on January 22, 2015, 06:54:41 PM
Using that calculator my chill hours are:

Below 45 Model: 0 chill hours
Between 45 and 32 Model: 0 chill hours
Utah Model: -1965 chill units
Dynamic Model (experimental): 0 chill portions

So, I guess getting a reliable crop from this tree is probably out of the question here?


Bruce

you have to change the dates. so the winter of 2014 in Biggenden from 06/01/2014 to 09/30/2014 had 245 chill hours. here are some other weather stations in IQUEEN and chill hours

jImmY'S 51
Coorparoo 8
Ashgrove 30

La Habra 22 chill hours 25 for homestead FL to date. I'm beginning to wonder if this is going work.

Thanks for that JF. Ashgrove is the closest so 30 chill hours it is! I'm guessing 30 chill hours is not gonna cut it?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 22, 2015, 10:24:20 PM
Using that calculator my chill hours are:

Below 45 Model: 0 chill hours
Between 45 and 32 Model: 0 chill hours
Utah Model: -1965 chill units
Dynamic Model (experimental): 0 chill portions

So, I guess getting a reliable crop from this tree is probably out of the question here?


Bruce

you have to change the dates. so the winter of 2014 in Biggenden from 06/01/2014 to 09/30/2014 had 245 chill hours. here are some other weather stations in IQUEEN and chill hours

jImmY'S 51
Coorparoo 8
Ashgrove 30

La Habra 22 chill hours 25 for homestead FL to date. I'm beginning to wonder if this is going work.

Thanks for that JF. Ashgrove is the closest so 30 chill hours it is! I'm guessing 30 chill hours is not gonna cut it?

I'm not too far behind. The calculator had me at 63 for 2014 and I doubt if we'll reach 40 hrs this year so I will be closely looking how these trees perform in the next 2 years.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Waterfall on January 22, 2015, 11:03:22 PM
I have a Spicezee here in coastal Sydney, just had a go on that chill calc and I only got 30 hours last year whereas western Sydney got 265 hours, the blue mountains got 1081 hours. These numbers seem a bit low to me?

previous years at my place

2013 44hrs
2012 67hrs
2011 50hrs
2010 71hrs

Anyway mine was only recently planted so I can't comment on performance in this location yet but we do have a peach of unknown variety which produces lots of fruit.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on January 31, 2015, 08:58:37 PM
Here in Socal we have fruits that will blow your palettes away without having to go half way around the world to the tropics. I am slowly diversifying from guavas, cherimoyas and mangos to Zaiger new Interspecifics. Another hybrid creation from the most famous Z..

http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/multiple-budded-interspecific-plum-zee-sweet-nuggets-splash-emerald-drop-flavor-grenade-geo-pride (http://www.davewilson.com/product-information/product/multiple-budded-interspecific-plum-zee-sweet-nuggets-splash-emerald-drop-flavor-grenade-geo-pride)


Multiple Dudded Interspecific Plum Zee Sweet Nuggets

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_7918.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: marklee on January 31, 2015, 10:35:51 PM
I just picked up an "Inca Plum", and I grafted a Santa Barbara and Long Beach peach on it. The Inca Plum is a excellent variety from LE Cooke, they have many nice varieties that Dave Wilson doesn't carry, and I don't believe they are patented unlike Wilson's varieties so you can share the budwood. Frank if you come down in February I should have scions that haven't budded out yet that you can use.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 01, 2015, 03:47:26 PM
I just picked up an "Inca Plum", and I grafted a Santa Barbara and Long Beach peach on it. The Inca Plum is a excellent variety from LE Cooke, they have many nice varieties that Dave Wilson doesn't carry, and I don't believe they are patented unlike Wilson's varieties so you can share the budwood. Frank if you come down in February I should have scions that haven't budded out yet that you can use.

Thanks Mark

Ashok and I are thinking of going down there late February first week of March
I have to call Willy

We are going to stone fruit tasting in Escondido in June
We'll talk about that, I'll email you
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 01, 2015, 10:50:51 PM
Tour of Chris Floyd Zaiger world famous hybridizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Zambezi on February 02, 2015, 06:21:40 PM
JF,

You picked up a very nice specimen.  :) I think you will really like the Spice Zee NectaPlum. I really love the taste and it's a gorgeous tree. Beautiful pink flowers in spring followed by deep maroon new growth. Really pretty!!The plums are a nice mottled red color on yellow background.
 
Here's a pic of some I posted a while back.

(http://s3.postimg.org/y926zmqyn/IMG_0870.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y926zmqyn/)

Good Luck..:)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 02, 2015, 08:44:29 PM
JF,

You picked up a very nice specimen.  :) I think you will really like the Spice Zee NectaPlum. I really love the taste and it's a gorgeous tree. Beautiful pink flowers in spring followed by deep maroon new growth. Really pretty!!The plums are a nice mottled red color on yellow background.
 
Here's a pic of some I posted a while back.

([url]http://s3.postimg.org/y926zmqyn/IMG_0870.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.org/image/y926zmqyn/[/url])

Good Luck..:)


Thank you GT....I'm keeping my fingers cross. The Spice Zee above was a 15 gallons it should fruit this year.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: ClayMango on February 02, 2015, 11:05:41 PM
Tour of Chris Floyd Zaiger world famous hybridizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM)

Great Video!!!!!  just wow!! This guy Zaiger is like the Zill family for stonefruits!!!!   I had no idea of all the crosses and hybrids!!!!! A Cherry crossed with a plum...wtf????? I mean Nature and Mother Earth gave us some incredible Fruit to enjoy in life throuhg Natural selection....then you have Fruit Geniuses such as the Man Zaiger or or Zill who tweak and bend Mother Earths design into something even better!!!! Just amazing!!!!!

Now to find that Fruit Punch Pluot that is pending release.....and I want a  Cherry plum!!!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 02, 2015, 11:15:52 PM
Tour of Chris Floyd Zaiger world famous hybridizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM)

Great Video!!!!!  just wow!! This guy Zaiger is like the Zill family for stonefruits!!!!   I had no idea of all the crosses and hybrids!!!!! A Cherry crossed with a plum...wtf????? I mean Nature and Mother Earth gave us some incredible Fruit to enjoy in life throuhg Natural selection....then you have Fruit Geniuses such as the Man Zaiger or or Zill who tweak and bend Mother Earths design into something even better!!!! Just amazing!!!!!

Now to find that Fruit Punch Pluot that is pending release.....and I want a  Cherry plum!!!

Clay,  according to our friend in Escondido Flavor Grenade has that fruit punch flavor! Slash is a combination of a cherry/plum
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: mangomaniac2 on February 03, 2015, 12:15:57 AM
Have never had the fruit but very ornamental with the leaf color change and big bright pink flowers. I am partial to arctic star nectarine. Very incredible sweet flavor. These will never approach the greatness of zills mangos. But very worthwhile in more cold climate.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: ClayMango on February 03, 2015, 02:49:09 AM
Tour of Chris Floyd Zaiger world famous hybridizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM)

Great Video!!!!!  just wow!! This guy Zaiger is like the Zill family for stonefruits!!!!   I had no idea of all the crosses and hybrids!!!!! A Cherry crossed with a plum...wtf????? I mean Nature and Mother Earth gave us some incredible Fruit to enjoy in life throuhg Natural selection....then you have Fruit Geniuses such as the Man Zaiger or or Zill who tweak and bend Mother Earths design into something even better!!!! Just amazing!!!!!

Now to find that Fruit Punch Pluot that is pending release.....and I want a  Cherry plum!!!

Clay,  according to our friend in Escondido Flavor Grenade has that fruit punch flavor! Slash is a combination of a cherry/plum


And this ladies a Gentleman is what Friends, networking, and this forum is all about!!!!

To the man who started my Fruit tree madness, cheers to JF and me explaining to the wife on why I need a  new fruit Tree.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: marklee on February 03, 2015, 01:54:27 PM
Tour of Chris Floyd Zaiger world famous hybridizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM)

Great Video!!!!!  just wow!! This guy Zaiger is like the Zill family for stonefruits!!!!   I had no idea of all the crosses and hybrids!!!!! A Cherry crossed with a plum...wtf????? I mean Nature and Mother Earth gave us some incredible Fruit to enjoy in life throuhg Natural selection....then you have Fruit Geniuses such as the Man Zaiger or or Zill who tweak and bend Mother Earths design into something even better!!!! Just amazing!!!!!
Now to find that Fruit Punch Pluot that is pending release.....and I want a  Cherry plum!!!
Clay, the true cherry plum cross is a variety from raintreenursery.com called Nadie which is a pretty big fruit. The Zaiger called pluerry is small and has other stone fruit traits mixed in.

Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: behlgarden on February 03, 2015, 05:47:15 PM
I am amazed looking at size of some of the fruits in that video. I wish I planted decent stone fruits instead what I planted Katy (apricot) and pluot (apricot/plum), 3 years and growth with no fruit. now they are amazing cocktail of everything, cant wait for it to start setting some fruits.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: BMc on February 03, 2015, 07:12:05 PM
I notice DWN has listed n/a under chill hour requirements for SpiceZee. Does anyone know what that means?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 03, 2015, 08:31:39 PM
Tour of Chris Floyd Zaiger world famous hybridizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhW_ngcaQvM)

Great Video!!!!!  just wow!! This guy Zaiger is like the Zill family for stonefruits!!!!   I had no idea of all the crosses and hybrids!!!!! A Cherry crossed with a plum...wtf????? I mean Nature and Mother Earth gave us some incredible Fruit to enjoy in life throuhg Natural selection....then you have Fruit Geniuses such as the Man Zaiger or or Zill who tweak and bend Mother Earths design into something even better!!!! Just amazing!!!!!

Now to find that Fruit Punch Pluot that is pending release.....and I want a  Cherry plum!!!

Clay,  according to our friend in Escondido Flavor Grenade has that fruit punch flavor! Slash is a combination of a cherry/plum


And this ladies a Gentleman is what Friends, networking, and this forum is all about!!!!

To the man who started my Fruit tree madness, cheers to JF and me explaining to the wife on why I need a  new fruit Tree.

Clay we'll be able to evaluated these fruits in the summer right around the same time as our mangos ripen.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 24, 2015, 12:37:25 AM
Spice Zee started to bloom 2 weeks behind the peaches and nectarines. Are we early this year? Here is my 4 n 1 peach tree Mid Pride, Red Barron, Saturn and May Pride.

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_3036.jpg)


Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on February 24, 2015, 01:12:53 AM
Wow, seems like all branches have flowers on them..., looking pretty in the least!
I will make room for this combo too, where did you get this tree JF if I may ask?

Btw; I went out some 2weeks ago to local to me now Laguna Hills nursery in Santa Ana,
and took home a bareroot Spicezee..., already sprouting young reddish leaves...and little clump of flowers!
Thanks JF, this post inspired me to get one... :D
(http://s13.postimg.org/3swmm55vn/IMG_0197.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3swmm55vn/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Viking Guy on February 24, 2015, 06:36:00 AM
I was tempted to get the SpiceZee this year.

I am trying to find something with low chill to beat the taste of the Double delight nectarine.  So far, DDN is the best tasting stonefruit I've ever grown. 

Seeing some conflicting reports, though.  Anyone tried SpizeZee on the southern coastal areas?

I really want to find something that tops DDN in flavor, but preferably a peach.  I have a couple of redskins I'm giving away and will have 2 openings for potential candidates!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 24, 2015, 10:36:26 AM
Wow, seems like all branches have flowers on them..., looking pretty in the least!
I will make room for this combo too, where did you get this tree JF if I may ask?

Btw; I went out some 2weeks ago to local to me now Laguna Hills nursery in Santa Ana,
and took home a bareroot Spicezee..., already sprouting young reddish leaves...and little clump of flowers!
Thanks JF, this post inspired me to get one... :D
([url]http://s13.postimg.org/3swmm55vn/IMG_0197.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.org/image/3swmm55vn/[/url])


Nice Sam
Gary has some big barefoot trees. Btw, our mangos and cherimoyas will be on sale there this fall whatever we have left over. Thx
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: simon_grow on February 24, 2015, 02:06:56 PM
Hey JF, I believe there is also a new hybrid Aprium called Cotton Candy. I saw it at Walter Anderson nursery in Poway. I am not growing this variety and I've never tasted it before. The new hybrids are extremely sweet.

Simon
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: rliou on March 01, 2015, 05:53:07 PM
I have a cotton candy aprium.  It''s extremely sweet.  I like it but some may not.  It's low chill (~300 hr) Aprium seems to be only stone fruit that my wife consistently will eat.  (though she does occasionally eat a portion of a peach)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: venturabananas on March 04, 2015, 01:20:01 AM
I have a cotton candy aprium.  It''s extremely sweet.  I like it but some may not.  It's low chill (~300 hr) Aprium seems to be only stone fruit that my wife consistently will eat.  (though she does occasionally eat a portion of a peach)

I grafted this one (Cot N Candy) on last year and was really impressed with the single fruit it set.  I'm looking forward to having more than one of these fruit to enjoy this year!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Carl.D on January 02, 2016, 03:29:27 AM
Would anyone know what I would get from planting the seeds of the spicezee ?
Had a few fruits so far, really nice  , with more coming along.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on May 25, 2016, 02:02:05 AM

I grafted this one (Cot N Candy) on last year and was really impressed with the single fruit it set.  I'm looking forward to having more than one of these fruit to enjoy this year!


I planted a bare root Spizee in February 2015, and only a single fruit seems to survive today. Me too, looking forward to do a test taste on this one and having more next year... :)
Good luck to you VB; any update on yours, Frank?

(http://i.imgur.com/5OQfWOCl.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on May 28, 2016, 10:53:39 AM
Samu

Tree is doing well.....10' and loaded with about 60 fruits
Some pix of zee with a few peaches mid pride,may pride, Barron and I have two golden nuggets

(http://s33.postimg.org/xzwn0m5xn/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xzwn0m5xn/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/bbc1esdxn/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bbc1esdxn/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/a7nbp33wr/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/a7nbp33wr/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/6wyyp7dzf/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6wyyp7dzf/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/xe7o4iavf/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xe7o4iavf/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/tvvo849zf/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tvvo849zf/)

(http://s33.postimg.org/ehxe6xjm3/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ehxe6xjm3/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on May 30, 2016, 11:42:27 PM
Nice going Frank, good to know Spizee can do well in our area.
Looks like mine is very close to picking/tasting time: already 'give" when squeezed... :D
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on June 17, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
Nice going Frank, good to know Spizee can do well in our area.
Looks like mine is very close to picking/tasting time: already 'give" when squeezed... :D

They are finally ripening. With a brix of 27 these are as sweet as sapodilla and much better tasting.,.,,not the spicy nauseating taste of chicos. Spicezee will challenge any fruit in season for supremacy


(https://s32.postimg.org/970md1d4h/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/970md1d4h/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 19, 2016, 05:33:39 PM
I picked and tasted mine 2 weeks ago, it's pretty big (1st fruit of the tree)  -it's already a bit too ripe off the tree it looks like-  (Turns out, that there is a second small fruit I didn't see before, hidden behind the leaves.)

It tasted 'very refreshing" to me, enough sweetness with very little sourness, have the typical Nectarine taste but very juicy (from the Plump side parent?); my wife didn't detect this sourness, "very sweet" she said...

Here's a couple of photos:

(http://i.imgur.com/qYF26e6m.jpg)



(http://i.imgur.com/B6IDwBGm.jpg)


My next stone fruit taste test is Burgundy plump, just picked the 1st and only today...

edit:  not sure about weight: removed.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on September 23, 2016, 05:39:54 PM
Spice zee tree caught my attention after reading this thread, i finally scored one from home depot for 70$ in a 15 gallon pot-- i think it's a steal considering its approx 10 feet tall.

Is it normal to have blooming flowers on it?
I dnt know how the chilling factor works.

Do u think it will do ok in a 25 gallon pot?

(http://s16.postimg.org/shdquvzht/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/shdquvzht/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on September 23, 2016, 10:08:27 PM
Spice zee tree caught my attention after reading this thread, i finally scored one from home depot for 70$ in a 15 gallon pot-- i think it's a steal considering its approx 10 feet tall.

Is it normal to have blooming flowers on it?
I dnt know how the chilling factor works.

Do u think it will do ok in a 25 gallon pot?

([url]http://s16.postimg.org/shdquvzht/image.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.org/image/shdquvzht/[/url])


Gonz
What rootstock is this on? Did it have a Dave Wilson tag?? If it didn't you are in trouble wrong rootstock.
My Dave Wilson 15 gallon $89. Home Depot is not an authorize dealer
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on September 23, 2016, 11:55:55 PM
Professor Frank, it does have a Dave Wilson tag.

I guess my SpiceZee is good?

Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on September 24, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
Professor Frank, it does have a Dave Wilson tag.

I guess my SpiceZee is good?

Gonz, great deal must have been leftovers from authorized nurseries or maybe HD is now accredited. Look in Dave Wilson webpage they'll have a list in your area.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on September 24, 2016, 06:06:51 PM
You are right--leftover from a nursery.

How many feet was your spice zee when u planted it versus now?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on September 27, 2016, 11:29:27 PM
You are right--leftover from a nursery.

How many feet was your spice zee when u planted it versus now?

Gonzo
six feet it has double it's size
you will have no problem getting the require chill hour. I hope we get at least 75-100 this winter
one of the best fruits out there

(https://s17.postimg.org/zcgc5vy2j/IMG_8741.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zcgc5vy2j/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on September 28, 2016, 01:57:59 PM
Wow looking good.

They get bushy..


Should i prune my spice? (Pic above)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on September 30, 2016, 05:29:36 PM
Wow looking good.

They get bushy..


Should i prune my spice? (Pic above)

Yes cut the bottom branches you'll little to no fruit sets down there
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 26, 2017, 06:34:23 PM
Blooming looks like a good season with 200 chill hours this season

(https://s22.postimg.org/nxq2gki4t/IMG_3421_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nxq2gki4t/)

(https://s14.postimg.org/psjq8x5st/IMG_3423_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/psjq8x5st/)



(https://s24.postimg.org/w6thqu3kx/IMG_3422_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w6thqu3kx/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on February 27, 2017, 04:34:38 PM
Yours look super healthy as usual, Frank!
Here' my 2 years in ground Spicezee blooms look today:

(http://i.imgur.com/QRvrjJxm.jpg)

Only 2 fruits stayed till maturity last year, hopefully we'll get more this year...  :D
Dave Wilson website says 200-300 chilling hours required, hopefully our trees in Orange County (CA) make the "cut"...



Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on February 28, 2017, 12:52:53 AM
Sam your trees looks great! You will soon be enjoying the fruits of your labor

(https://s3.postimg.org/9kxrpg7xb/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9kxrpg7xb/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on March 03, 2017, 06:45:48 PM

(https://s8.postimg.org/vgp0m9agh/20170303_090750.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vgp0m9agh/)


Thanks for recommending this, Prof Frank.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on March 28, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
Today i thinned out the little fruits on the new branches.... i was hesistant, however, when these little fruitlets get big, the branches will break
(https://s8.postimg.org/uwo6eq3ht/20170328_172608.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uwo6eq3ht/)

(https://s27.postimg.org/wk1vmwgj3/20170328_172550.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wk1vmwgj3/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Viking Guy on March 28, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
My SpiceZee is loaded in flowers now.  Looking forward to the harvest.

I'll pop up some photos later.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Oolie on March 31, 2017, 02:49:46 AM
Been thinning the set heavily, though not as much work as last year.

Last year we only recovered 4 fruit out of approximately 30.

Anyone have a solution to keep the earwigs from getting them?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on April 06, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
Been thinning the set heavily, though not as much work as last year.

Last year we only recovered 4 fruit out of approximately 30.

Anyone have a solution to keep the earwigs from getting them?


Hi Oolie,
Interesting to note that you had 4 fruits out of 30; while I got only 2 fruits out of 8 or so...Lets see what happens this year...good luck!

Earwigs? Sorry, I don't hv that in my yard, actually my yard is practically "pest free", my neighbor just 2 feet over the wooden fence apparently has a regular maintenance contract with an exterminator company, their truck  shows up every month and spray their whole house...the bad thing is that I heard sapodilla pollination is being done by ants...., but I haven't seen any ants in this house since we moved here ...; so, for now I have been doing manual pollination with my Sapodilla tree...

Here's some fruitlets as of 10days ago...
(http://i.imgur.com/e0x78tJl.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on April 06, 2017, 02:51:17 AM

(https://s13.postimg.org/eo0shqtb7/20170405_191901.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eo0shqtb7/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on April 06, 2017, 11:28:59 AM

(https://s13.postimg.org/eo0shqtb7/20170405_191901.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eo0shqtb7/)

They grow full size in about a month.....don't be tempted harvest in July
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on April 07, 2017, 02:03:17 AM

(https://s13.postimg.org/eo0shqtb7/20170405_191901.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eo0shqtb7/)

They grow full size in about a month.....don't be tempted harvest in July

They size up.pretty quick.

I am not tempted... i am tempted to shoot a squirrrrrel. Lol
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on April 07, 2017, 12:22:38 PM
Squirrels will be the least of your problems......make sure you net it or you will only enjoy a few if any.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on April 07, 2017, 08:36:07 PM
Squirrels will be the least of your problems......make sure you net it or you will only enjoy a few if any.

what kind of net do u use?

do u have a photo?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on April 08, 2017, 11:10:19 AM
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dalen-Products-Incorporated-DALBN4-14ftx45ft-Bird-X-Net-3-4in-Mesh/22257304 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dalen-Products-Incorporated-DALBN4-14ftx45ft-Bird-X-Net-3-4in-Mesh/22257304)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on April 16, 2017, 09:23:26 PM

(https://s13.postimg.org/5pd7fxa03/IMG_4194.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5pd7fxa03/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/y3imzsxk3/IMG_4195.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y3imzsxk3/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on April 16, 2017, 10:28:52 PM
Dang, ur tree is loaded
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on April 16, 2017, 11:05:03 PM
Dang, ur tree is loaded

It's got 500 fruits
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on April 17, 2017, 04:53:08 AM
How many are u plucking out?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on April 17, 2017, 11:01:12 PM
How many are u plucking out?

Probably 350
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on May 24, 2017, 02:43:12 AM
Just wanted to update my SpiceZee fruits development as of yesterday:
(http://i.imgur.com/UUl058ul.jpg)

Seems like mine is way behind compared to JF's. Did you harvest yours Frank?

Lots more fruits this year (2nd year fruiting) even after lots of thinning; last year only 2 fruits stayed till maturity. I would consider this SpiceZee a quick fruiting tree, considering I purchased it in Feb 2015 as a 5 ft bare root stick. The relatively easy growing and no pest -so far- and "low chilling" requirement is also a bonus.

Looking forward to a sweet and juicy Summer days...  :)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on May 24, 2017, 09:41:08 AM
Sam
If you can net them and wait one more month you'll be rewarded.  they are in their prime in July don't make the mistake of harvesting too early.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on May 24, 2017, 12:15:50 PM
Actually, my mistake last year was picking it (only 1-2 fruits) too late... :D
Ok, I'll start looking for the net, hmm, what men would do
for their hobby..., thanks for the heads up, Frank!
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: FruitFool on May 25, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
Hi, All,

I have about 4 fruits on my spicezee and it was planted this year as a bare root tree. Its around 7 ft tall.
I see holes in the leaves, anyone know what kind of pest could that be? Sorry no photos yet, will upload later.

Thanks,
FruitFool
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Viking Guy on May 25, 2017, 10:07:28 PM
Hi, All,

I have about 4 fruits on my spicezee and it was planted this year as a bare root tree. Its around 7 ft tall.
I see holes in the leaves, anyone know what kind of pest could that be? Sorry no photos yet, will upload later.

Thanks,
FruitFool

You looking for a single season plant?

I would highly recommend culling those fruit immediately and giving that bare root a year or two to develop before letting it hold fruit.

You may not see it come out of dormancy next year.

Holes in the leaves will be may beetles and white weevils most of the time with occasional katydids.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: FruitFool on May 27, 2017, 01:34:30 AM
Thank you, Viking Guy!

will cull fruits.

Thanks,
FruitFool
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on May 27, 2017, 04:53:21 PM
Sam
If you can net them and wait one more month you'll be rewarded.  they are in their prime in July don't make the mistake of harvesting too early.


Just netted today... ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/B5v0GSfl.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on May 28, 2017, 12:12:47 PM
Sam

That's the way to do it ties to the bottom. After netting the birds and squirrels have stayed away


Can wait for spice Z but it the meantime we have flavor slight, Arctic


(https://s3.postimg.org/yu4erpgtr/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yu4erpgtr/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/ix5muzofj/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ix5muzofj/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/dn0o3p46n/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dn0o3p46n/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on May 28, 2017, 02:55:58 PM
Sam
That's the way to do it ties to the bottom. After netting the birds and squirrels have stayed away
Can wait for spice Z but it the meantime we have flavor slight, Arctic


Nice stone fruits collection you have, Frank!
While at it, I wrapped my Midpride peach with a net as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/j9L4E9ol.jpg)

Hope the nettings will work againts the squirrels too, but I am also deploying other means against  them now: with "Ratzapper", and rat poison. If that's not enough, I can also put out rat/squirrel's trap...
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on May 28, 2017, 03:55:55 PM
I have to net my June pride, red Barron, Eva's pride and others too lazy. I'll tell you, the hybrid stone fruits from master breeder zaiger genetics are better than anything thing the tropics have to offer right now ..... they are unreal.,,,..and design for the low chill hours of SoCal
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Viking Guy on May 29, 2017, 10:30:45 AM
I have to net my June pride, red Barron, Eva's pride and others too lazy. I'll tell you, the hybrid stone fruits from master breeder zaiger genetics are better than anything thing the tropics have to offer right now ..... they are unreal.,,,..and design for the low chill hours of SoCal

There is a nice contender, though.

I have all of the interspecifics from Zaiger, but there is a peach I chose to get called UF Best for the tropics, and oh my gosh.  I was surprised by that thing.  Only allowed it to make 7 fruits this year, and still 5 in it plumping up.  I don't often say, but that peach is impressive and can hang with the hybrids.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on June 03, 2017, 07:08:56 PM
Sam
We are starting to eat June & mid Pride Zee's are almost ready
I've never had florida's best I sure like to try it

Here is Z

(https://s2.postimg.org/psqqb395x/IMG_4984.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/psqqb395x/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 04, 2017, 12:09:36 AM
That red hanging fruits in that photo above sure look tempting for the birds as well as for the pedestrian... :D

I haven't tasted my SpiceZee nor my Mid-pride peach yet Frank, maybe in another month or so; they are still hard when squeezed...
My Burgundy plum has just a couple of green fruits hanging, and so is the Flavor grenade pluot.

Here's my SpiceZee fruits look today:
(http://i.imgur.com/A81QeZGl.jpg)





Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on June 04, 2017, 07:35:56 PM
Here is the netted Zwell over 100 fruits

(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/IMG_5012_1.jpg)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/IMG_5011_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on June 05, 2017, 02:09:43 PM

(https://s16.postimg.org/rox5rss81/20170605_110335.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rox5rss81/)


I plucked this Z's today. i will let these soften a bit. I was able Taste one yesterday and it tastes like jujube to me..i can imagine how gud these are when they are fully matured & riped from the tree.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on June 05, 2017, 07:48:33 PM

(https://s16.postimg.org/rox5rss81/20170605_110335.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rox5rss81/)


I plucked this Z's today. i will let these soften a bit. I was able Taste one yesterday and it tastes like jujube to me..i can imagine how gud these are when they are fully matured & riped from the tree.

Oh no! why? you should've waited 4 more weeks
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on June 05, 2017, 08:26:47 PM

(https://s16.postimg.org/rox5rss81/20170605_110335.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rox5rss81/)


I plucked this Z's today. i will let these soften a bit. I was able Taste one yesterday and it tastes like jujube to me..i can imagine how gud these are when they are fully matured & riped from the tree.

Oh no! why? you should've waited 4 more weeks

One small branch are holding 20... it is near the point of breaking in half. Lol
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on June 06, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
You need to thin down to 4-5 pieces per branch
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on June 16, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
Frank, i have tasted a ripe one from the tree.


These i Consider the best tasting fruits........
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 16, 2017, 10:58:01 PM
Mine still hanging...maybe in a couple of weeks?
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: gozp on June 17, 2017, 01:39:48 AM
I have tasted the unriped ones on different stages.. some tasted like plum, some jujube/ apple, & some hint of guava.



But the riped from the tree are supreme.... so far i have only tasted 1 small riped from tree.


Gud thing i was able to cover nectaplum. Dam squirrels got like 15 ++....
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 17, 2017, 02:26:29 PM
Partially harvested my first Midpride peach 3 days ago:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ofz8MUFl.jpg)

While waiting for the SpiceZee; they seem to get rounder and plumper by the week...:
(http://i.imgur.com/9Zbu4Y3l.jpg)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 22, 2017, 02:10:01 PM
Just wanted to show the size difference between my SpiceZee fruits, one picked on June 12 (2 1/4 oz), the other picked today (3 3/4 oz): 10 days apart; both were the only 2 fruits from the same small branch... (so, they were of the same size 10 days ago):
(http://i.imgur.com/1IUGJM4l.jpg)

(I have not harvested the fruits yet -getting close seems like- , those 2 were picked at different days just for my own observation).

We'll do the taste test comparison soon :)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 27, 2017, 08:43:58 PM

(https://s16.postimg.org/rox5rss81/20170605_110335.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rox5rss81/)


I plucked this Z's today. i will let these soften a bit. I was able Taste one yesterday and it tastes like jujube to me..i can imagine how gud these are when they are fully matured & riped from the tree.

Oh no! why? you should've waited 4 more weeks

Is it about time to harvest now Frank?
Mine gives a little when given medium squeezing..., even though no dropped fruit, yet.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 29, 2017, 02:07:47 PM
Well. checking the fruits this morning, they get bigger and softer still; and I found one dropped on the net.

 So, i went ahead and picked the largest/softest ones to fill a medium size box:
(http://i.imgur.com/0MTGBnFl.jpg)

And here's a look inside, already showing sign of overripe: hmm hmm good; sweeter and juicier than regular nectarines:
(http://i.imgur.com/D3rZaGFl.jpg)
The largest ones average weight: 5.75 oz.
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on June 29, 2017, 08:11:58 PM
They look great Sam! I've eaten and giving away dozens and over 150 left..... ripening every day
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on June 30, 2017, 11:30:13 AM
Thanks Frank!
You got me interested in this! Looking back, I went out and
bought a 5 ft bare root tree after reading this thread in February 2015!

So, it's a fast grower; I never had any pest/disease issue, easy to grow even
on my most infertile  part of my yard...
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on July 02, 2017, 12:42:50 PM
Finish harvesting Spiice Z...picked up.267 over 400 piece for the season.
(https://s3.postimg.org/or35nd3sf/IMG_5463.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/or35nd3sf/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/bbg4xwvan/IMG_5464.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bbg4xwvan/)
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: Samu on July 03, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Wow, what a bountiful harvest!
Looks like you shook up the tree to get those fruits dropped on the ground... ;D
Title: Re: Spicezee
Post by: JF on July 03, 2017, 11:09:32 AM
Wow, what a bountiful harvest!
Looks like you shook up the tree to get those fruits dropped on the ground... ;D

They were dropping like flies and spoiling. turned my back on them for two days and I found a mess. This is the most productive 3 year old fruit tree I've ever planted.....one of the top tree i would plant if I was starting a new orchard