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Citrus => Citrus General Discussion => Topic started by: SonnyCrockett on April 03, 2017, 10:27:54 PM

Title: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: SonnyCrockett on April 03, 2017, 10:27:54 PM
It looks like guys are getting bud wood from Australia for finger limes (ie. ozifingerlimes1 on ebay).  Do you need special permits or what? 
Title: Re: Importing budwood
Post by: mrtexas on April 03, 2017, 10:57:43 PM
It is illegal to import citrus budwood or seeds from outside the country. Expect the USDA to knock on
your door if you try it out. The various state budwood programs can get the budwood for you
but expect to pay $5-10k for each variety and wait several years before getting any.

Haven't you heard of citrus canker or greening which got here from illegal imports of citrus parts?
Title: Re: Importing budwood
Post by: SonnyCrockett on April 03, 2017, 11:25:00 PM
Yes, of course.  That was my thought exactly and why it sounded so fishy.  I didn't know if you guys were getting bud wood sent to usda for testing or if there was an import agreement with Australia or what.  I asked about finger limes on another thread and was told "Ozlimes on ebay". 
Title: Re: Importing budwood
Post by: fyliu on April 04, 2017, 12:58:32 AM
You can import seeds I think. Or maybe those people are not in the US.

Budwood of citrus shouldn't be able to come through at all, even with USDA inspection. You wouldn't be able to get the import permit in the first place which is required for mailing any budwood from the source to the USDA for inspection.
Title: Re: Importing budwood
Post by: SonnyCrockett on April 04, 2017, 08:03:36 AM
I had asked the seller the same question about what was required.  Thankfully, he was honest and replied that it was not legal.

"No kind of permit or health certificate will get plants in US legally, only quarantine."

It looks like I'm going to stick with Persian limes and try to graft a Winged lime.  Eventually, some of those improved varieties will become available over here legally.





Title: Re: Importing budwood
Post by: mrtexas on April 04, 2017, 09:51:56 AM
You can import seeds I think. Or maybe those people are not in the US.

Budwood of citrus shouldn't be able to come through at all, even with USDA inspection. You wouldn't be able to get the import permit in the first place which is required for mailing any budwood from the source to the USDA for inspection.

No seeds either.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Badfish8696 on April 04, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
UCR has a finger lime available through their budwood program, it is this one...

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/microcitrus_australasica_3672.html (http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/microcitrus_australasica_3672.html)

Not sure if you are looking for a specific one or what but the cost should be affordable, they charge $2.50 per bud for out of state buyers.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Millet on April 04, 2017, 11:35:05 AM
You can purchase either red or green Finger lime trees from Logees Greenhouse. on line.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: SonnyCrockett on April 04, 2017, 12:15:56 PM
I thought the "red finger limes" from Logees were suspect.  Isn't the fruit in their picture a blood lime or some other type of citrus and not an actual finger like?

I saw ucr and a few places had finger limes, but they are just "green finger limes", not an improved variety.  Anyone with experience with these?  Are they worth growing?

Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Millet on April 04, 2017, 12:20:21 PM
I grow the common green finger lime, and also a red finger lime.  Both are great in salads and on fish. or just squeeze them into you mouth as a snack.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Mike T on April 04, 2017, 03:52:03 PM
The disease risk from Australian budwood is very low as many of the worst diseases like greening are not here and any ouitbreak would be contained quickly. Getting budwood in is almost impossible.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: bsbullie on April 04, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
The disease risk from Australian budwood is very low as many of the worst diseases like greening are not here and any ouitbreak would be contained quickly. Getting budwood in is almost impossible.

Risk is insect and disease related...
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: mrtexas on April 04, 2017, 08:49:47 PM
The disease risk from Australian budwood is very low as many of the worst diseases like greening are not here and any ouitbreak would be contained quickly. Getting budwood in is almost impossible.

There is always the risk of someone bringing illegal cuttings from their homeland.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Tropheus76 on April 05, 2017, 08:52:05 AM
Finger limes are fairly common now. I know Harris has them and am pretty sure they can ship outside FL. They were one of the first nurseries to carry the reds.
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Popo1984 on April 07, 2017, 06:37:48 PM
Does anyone in texas know what happened to the Texas budwood bureau web page?
Title: Re: Importing budwood - IS NOT LEGAL IN USA
Post by: Millet on April 07, 2017, 09:00:03 PM
Try this mark.vanness@tamuk.edu  This link was posted by Mr. Texas as an answer to the same question a week or so ago.