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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: JF on October 11, 2017, 09:39:44 PM
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Trulytropical top 5
Carrie
Lemon meringue
Glenn
Vp
Edward
My top 5
Lemon zest
Honey kiss
Senyorita
Coc
Leo keitt seedling - fairchild close
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Trulytropical top 5
Carrie
Lemon meringue
Glenn
Vp
Edward
My top 5
Sweet tart
Lemon zest
Señorita
Carrie
Fairchild
My top 5
1. Sweet Tart
Lemon Zest
Senorita
Peach cobbler
Carrie
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My top 5
1. Lemon zest (Orange flavor profile)
2. White pirie/pirie (piney flavor profile)
3. Peach cobbler (tangerine flavor profile)
4. Coconut cream (coconut flavor profile)
5. Sweet tart (indochinese flavor profile)
Carrie too was fabulous this year. It is in my piney flavor profile category.
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My top 5
1. Lemon zest (Orange flavor profile)
2. White pirie/pirie (piney flavor profile)
3. Peach cobbler (tangerine flavor profile)
4. Coconut cream (coconut flavor profile)
5. Sweet tart (indochinese flavor profile)
Carrie too was fabulous this year. It is in my piney flavor profile category.
peach cobbler was overripe and the good piece I have doesn't challenge my top 20.....ok mango but too hard to grow not worth it
white pirie was a dud carrie is much better
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My top 1
Keitt from Mexico.
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My top five are
1 Lemon Zest
2 Sweet Tart
3 Kesar
4 Seniorita
5 Leo Keitt seedling
Simon
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My top five are
1 Lemon Zest
2 Sweet Tart
3 Kesar
4 Seniorita
5 Leo Keitt seedling
Simon
What is this LEO KEITT SEEDLING a couple of you are talking about?
Thanks,
Joe.
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My top 1
Keitt from Mexico.
You're associating with the wrong people and the wrong mangoes! (Make friends with JF and that bunch.)
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My top five are
1 Lemon Zest
2 Sweet Tart
3 Kesar
4 Seniorita
5 Leo Keitt seedling
Simon
What is this LEO KEITT SEEDLING a couple of you are talking about?
Thanks,
Joe.
Leo Manuel grew a Keitt seedling. It turned out to be a great-tasting mango. (Why don't you call it "Leo?" Frances Hargrave was a Keitt seedling also, wasn't it?)
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peach cobbler was overripe and the good piece I have doesn't challenge my top 20.....ok mango but too hard to grow not worth it
white pirie was a dud carrie is much better
Well, that's great to know. :P Just grafted a stick to my Sweet Tart!
Am new to this but our first tasting of my Lemon Zest and Sweet Tart was an experience. Wife used to hate mango. Not anymore! We made some incredible mango salsa too served with chips and slices of Reed avocado.
My mango collection is Lemon Zest, Sweet Tart, Pineapple Pleasure, Juicy Peach, Peach Cobbler, Cotton Candy, and Fruit Punch. As an aside, had a nasty case of spider mites on my citrus which carried over to some of the mangos. Took care of them and I swear in 2 days the trees look 10X better. Those bastards can really screw up a tree, scale too. Two of my worst pests. >:(
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Mark, you have chosen a pretty awesome variety of mango cultivars.
I don't necessarily think that you will regret adding Peach Cobbler. As far as I know it is doing well in Florida (at least mine is). I don't know whether your growing conditions are more like Florida or California.
JF, could you elaborate on PCs poor performance?
(Seanny, were you teasing us? If not you should definitely look into Tommy Atkins mangoes from well, it doesn't really matter...........)
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Mark, you have chosen a pretty awesome variety of mango cultivars.
I don't necessarily think that you will regret adding Peach Cobbler. As far as I know it is doing well in Florida (at least mine is). I don't know whether your growing conditions are more like Florida or California.
JF, could you elaborate on PCs poor performance?
Yeah, I'm proud of it and if it weren't for the generousity of a member here I wouldn't have a lot of those. I bought the Lemon Zest and Mallika, the latter I'm using as rootstock for a cocktail tree.
More like central California with lower RH than Florida. The beauty of growing in a greenhouse is having control over most everything and that includes letting my greenhouse lows go 34F in the winter before the heater kicks in which is quite often. That allows me to grow fruits that prefer a cold period for fruit set. My next focus is on cherimoyas.
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My top 1
Keitt from Mexico.
<barf>
I had to buy a mango over the weekend for some school project for my daughter. Bought a couple Mexico Keitts from Publix - one for her school one for me to try. I guess if you like flavorless swill it's a great mango.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
Lot's of rumors and speculation going around on that one...knockoffs, etc. Lemon Zest has that citrus thing going for it with tangerine or orange flavor tones.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
Lot's of rumors and speculation going around on that one...knockoffs, etc. Lemon Zest has that citrus thing going for it with tangerine or orange flavor tones.
OS legend has loss stem with the new varieties being release in Florida and California. It’s hard to phantom OS topping
Sweet tart
Lemon zest
Señorita
This a promo mango that will not live up to all it’s hype.
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Mark, you have chosen a pretty awesome variety of mango cultivars.
I don't necessarily think that you will regret adding Peach Cobbler. As far as I know it is doing well in Florida (at least mine is). I don't know whether your growing conditions are more like Florida or California.
JF, could you elaborate on PCs poor performance?
(Seanny, were you teasing us? If not you should definitely look into Tommy Atkins mangoes from well, it doesn't really matter...........)
Peach Cobbler is top tier excellent mango. the problem with the one at tasting was that it riped on tree and had soft nose, by the time it hit tasting it was overipe so there was little edible part. Peach Cobbler does have ripening issues if not picked properly, I am still learning. Got 4 on the tree and one is almost a 2 lb. I will pick at hard stage and see how it goes. It was delicious last year as it was riped perfectly. It is very intense flavor and was my favorite last year.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
Lot's of rumors and speculation going around on that one...knockoffs, etc. Lemon Zest has that citrus thing going for it with tangerine or orange flavor tones.
OS legend has loss stem with the new varieties being release in Florida and California. It’s hard to phantom OS topping
Sweet tart
Lemon zest
Señorita
This a promo mango that will not live up to all it’s hype.
Orange Sherbert is no hype. Slowed by the decision to exclusively license it, it will eventually take its place among the top tier. For me, it remains in the top 5.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
only when we can get to try it ;) ;)
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Buy them at the mango auction during Fairchild Mango Fest or purchase direct from Richard Campbell. I have gorged on many many mangos and these are my favorite. This isn't any legend or huckster knock off. The real deal is a force to be reckoned with.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
Lot's of rumors and speculation going around on that one...knockoffs, etc. Lemon Zest has that citrus thing going for it with tangerine or orange flavor tones.
OS legend has loss stem with the new varieties being release in Florida and California. It’s hard to phantom OS topping
Sweet tart
Lemon zest
Señorita
This a promo mango that will not live up to all it’s hype.
Orange Sherbert is no hype. Slowed by the decision to exclusively license it, it will eventually take its place among the top tier. For me, it remains in the top 5.
I take you and josh’s word as good as gold. it is just odd that truly tropical did not have it in their top 5. I have missed out the last few years I hope to try it in 2018
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Orange sherbet is hard to beat
At some point it comes down to individual taste
But an OS is a top five fruit imo
Chris has to have trees of OS as sales counts are a big part of her list
As far as I know she doesn't have a tree
A Zill but have better chance with Dr Campbell acquiring one
Bought a a box from him a couple years back
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The official OS is unreleased. There is a least one person who has fruited a "reverse grafted" seedling cutting. OS is worth waiting for.
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California ST, hard to beat at this time or anytime of the year. They are sweeter and more complex than any mangos I've ever had anywhere
(https://s1.postimg.cc/88e82lrhqz/IMG_7930_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/88e82lrhqz/)
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California ST, hard to beat at this time or anytime of the year. They are sweeter and more complex than any mangos I've ever had anywhere
(https://s1.postimg.cc/88e82lrhqz/IMG_7930_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/88e82lrhqz/)
That sure is a yummy sweetart.
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Behl, good to know about the Peach Cobbler and picking the right moment to harvest any new fruit is trial and error. I pulled my first Sweet Tart when it was almost 100% colored up. It was delicious, almost too much (rich) for one sitting, smelled like perfume.
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Orange Sherbert is no hype. Slowed by the decision to exclusively license it, it will eventually take its place among the top tier. For me, it remains in the top 5.
Wasn't implying hype, just some confusion and rumors as to whether or not what they have is the real deal as bred and released as Orange Sherbert. Glad you have it and love it!
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My top five are
1 Lemon Zest
2 Sweet Tart
3 Kesar
4 Seniorita
5 Leo Keitt seedling
Simon
What is this LEO KEITT SEEDLING a couple of you are talking about?
Thanks,
Joe.
Leo Manuel grew a Keitt seedling. It turned out to be a great-tasting mango. (Why don't you call it "Leo?" Frances Hargrave was a Keitt seedling also, wasn't it?)
Hey John, I hope that Leo does eventually name it because it was excellent tasting even when compared to the numerous named varieties that it went up against. We need more data to collect over several more years to see if it is consistently a good Mango. Leo planted the seed so it will be up to him to give this Mango a name. I will try to find out more about this variety next time I visit him. Hopefully production is good. I’ll also ask about vigor and disease resistance.
Simon
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This variety first fruited 3 years ago when Ashok and I visited Leo. He gave us one fruit we were amazed of the quality of the fruit. According to Leo so far this seedling has been a shy bearer like his Leo coconut but this it is younger and it is quite promising. As Simon said it’s is a top tier mango that competes with most of Zill ne varieties. The tree is a medium grower
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California ST, hard to beat at this time or anytime of the year. They are sweeter and more complex than any mangos I've ever had anywhere
(https://s1.postimg.cc/88e82lrhqz/IMG_7930_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/88e82lrhqz/)
I just cut open this Sweet Tart grown in Anaheim Hills area of SoCal and it was, as Frank described, one of the sweetest and most complex mangos I’ve ever eaten! The Mysterious Mr. AZ sent me a few different Sweet Tarts grown either on Manilla rootstock or Florida Turpentine rootstock and asked me to compare and contrast the two.
This fruit grown on Manilla rootstock was sent to me rock hard and green on October 4. There was not a bit of yellow on its skin so I ripened it with bottom heat set at 93F and turned the fruit multiple times a day to try to get even ripening. After 10 days, the outer skin was slightly wrinkly and the fruit had a very light sweet smell to it.
The flavor was phenomenal and I let it get to this very ripe wrinkly stage because i like it very sweet with just enough acidity to balance out the intense sweetness. It had a strong Indochinese flavor component that was acidic and multidimensional and not just sour like lemon or vinegar. The juice was thick and viscous because of all the sugar. This Fruit had a Brix reading of 30%!
I’m really shocked that this fruit developed such fine flavor and such a high level of sugars considering the fruit was completely green and rock hard when I received it. Here are some pictures when they first arrived at my house.
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Here are some pictures of the Sweet Tart on Manilla rootstock cut open. It had a Brix of 30%
Postimage not working, I’ll try again tomorrow
Simon
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Ripe fruit
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Simon
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Nice to see Carrie mango so well represented. When I eat one I say to myself that it is as good as any new Zill such as LZ and ST. I would be happy to eat Carrie all mango season if there were such a Carrie tree. (no there is not)
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Nice to see Carrie mango so well represented. When I eat one I say to myself that it is as good as any new Zill such as LZ and ST. I would be happy to eat Carrie all mango season if there were such a Carrie tree. (no there is not)
I'm a big Carrie fan also. I have a Carrie mango tree and I've just grafted some Carrie budwood onto one of my Glenn branches to have two varieties on one tree. :)
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Ripe fruit
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Simon
Nice! Amazed that the green fruit was that sugary.
Eyes closed, savoring the moment while I chew on a ST seed.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/7aer8un3yz/Sweet_Tart_First_July26.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7aer8un3yz/)
Change gears....wife and I have tried about every kind of processing we can including using a big spoon with a sharpened edge on one side to spoon it out. Wife came up with what we both like best - cut the "cheeks" off the seed and with a very sharp knife cut lengthwise into 1" or so wide strips. Using the paring knife she cuts along and against the peel one end to the other. The meat comes off clean in a thick strip making for nice chunks. I like to pull the peel strips between my teeth to take off every bit of the meat, like you would an artichoke leaf. :D
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Mark, these Sweet starts we’re shipped to me dark green, one of them had a tiny bit of yellow, but the rest were completely green and rock hard. They were so hard that the person that shipped the fruit to me didn’t use any packing material at all and the box was crushed on one corner yet every fruit, so far, has been perfect. Here in SoCal, we get less rains and the fruit ripens on the tree for extended periods of time which seems to make them very sweet as long as we are careful not to overwater.
I’ve had excellent tasting Sweet Tarts so I was expecting the Brix to be around 24-26 but I was blown away with the 30% reading! The density of flavor was just incredible. I believe this is the highest Brix reading I have taken for the Sweet Tart variety.
Eating this mango is like eating candy, I can see why some people say they can’t eat more than one of these ultra sweet flavor bombs.
Simon
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Nice to see Carrie mango so well represented. When I eat one I say to myself that it is as good as any new Zill such as LZ and ST. I would be happy to eat Carrie all mango season if there were such a Carrie tree. (no there is not)
I'm a big Carrie fan also. I have a Carrie mango tree and I've just grafted some Carrie budwood onto one of my Glenn branches to have two varieties on one tree. :)
Carrie goes way back to Lawrence Zill. Carrie endures and cures all at the same time. The recent hurricane did not do a lick of damage to my Carrie tree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_(mango) Written by by Alex in Palm Beach.
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I just cut open the Sweet Tart grown on Florida Turpentine rootstock and it had a Brix of 26%. It was an excellent Mango but the sweetness and intensity of flavor was much stronger in the fruit with 30% Brix. I also noticed that this fruit had more fibers around the fruit.
This is just a small sampling of fruit from two different rootstocks and we are just starting to track this kind of info but no conclusions can be drawn until we get a lot more data from more fruit from different trees and over multiple years. There can be significant differences in the quality of fruit even from the same tree.
Here is a picture of the Sweet Tart when it was first sent to me
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2kpzd7vk17/32_BADB6_E-84_B2-41_B3-917_C-_E6_F7829_E367_F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/2kpzd7vk17/)
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And here it is 11 days later ripened with bottom heat set at 93F
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Simon
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Great pix, thanks for sharing. Wife and I both commented that a particular ST we ate was almost too rich for one setting. We did put half back in the fridge. How folks can eat one or two a day by themselves is unreal.
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Mark
Your persistence has been rewarded. Sweet tart and other mangoes easy to grow in S Florida but takes strategy and IQ to pull this off in Hill Country Texas yeah I have been to New Braunfels a while back for BBQ
Anyways.... For variation slice off the mango cheeks. Scoop out flesh with a spoon. Then scrape the skin as close as you can w a spoon. Nice exciting flavors can pop up close to the skin. There/not there meaning variable results.
Real mango shit tests are chewing around the seed and scraping the skin w a spoon. Those are boundary aka transition areas. Doing a mango test by eating mango flesh is for children and amateurs. The connoisseur taste is close to seed and skin. All else is commentary.
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The flesh around the skin is my favorite part. It tastes like it has the most flavor components, turpenes I suppose. If you get too close to the skin, there can be some sort of natural component in the skin that tickles the back of my throat and makes me want to cough.
The good thing about these flavor grenade type mangos is that a little bit goes a long way and in the case of Sweet Tart, the fruit grows in clusters and are often relatively small. The Sweet Tart variety can even hold a decent amount of fruit in a pot although it will need judicious pruning.
People that have a basement, balcony or small patio can grow this variety and the small mangos will go a long ways in terms of not needing a lot of flesh to be satisfied.
Simon
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The flesh around the skin is my favorite part. It tastes like it has the most flavor components, turpenes I suppose. If you get too close to the skin, there can be some sort of natural component in the skin that tickles the back of my throat and makes me want to cough.
The good thing about these flavor grenade type mangos is that a little bit goes a long way and in the case of Sweet Tart, the fruit grows in clusters and are often relatively small. The Sweet Tart variety can even hold a decent amount of fruit in a pot although it will need judicious pruning.
People that have a basement, balcony or small patio can grow this variety and the small mangos will go a long ways in terms of not needing a lot of flesh to be satisfied.
Simon
You get it about scraping the mango skin! Great sweet tart testimony and accounting. Lets talk May 2018 when mangoes are looking good here
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The flesh around the skin is my favorite part. It tastes like it has the most flavor components, turpenes I suppose. If you get too close to the skin, there can be some sort of natural component in the skin that tickles the back of my throat and makes me want to cough.
The good thing about these flavor grenade type mangos is that a little bit goes a long way and in the case of Sweet Tart, the fruit grows in clusters and are often relatively small. The Sweet Tart variety can even hold a decent amount of fruit in a pot although it will need judicious pruning.
People that have a basement, balcony or small patio can grow this variety and the small mangos will go a long ways in terms of not needing a lot of flesh to be satisfied.
Simon
You get it about scraping the mango skin! Great sweet tart testimony and accounting. Lets talk May 2018 when mangoes are looking good here
My good friend Zands, while you are waiting we continue on until January.
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My good friend Zands, while you are waiting we continue on until January.
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Friend. Looks like October Maha Chanok
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31 Brix California Sweet Tart showing us mango magic
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Sweet tart looks like the winner no matter location
Some types don't translate locations as well as the ST
Like the Kensington or the Julie never gets as good in Florida as it does back home
The ST is best tasting and it is translating well
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Those ST’s are looking fantastic!
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Scoop out flesh with a spoon. Then scrape the skin as close as you can w a spoon. Nice exciting flavors can pop up close to the skin. There/not there meaning variable results.
I know and like I said in a previous post I treat the skin like an artichoke leaf. "Change gears....wife and I have tried about every kind of processing we can including using a big spoon with a sharpened edge on one side to spoon it out. Wife came up with what we both like best - cut the "cheeks" off the seed and with a very sharp knife cut lengthwise into 1" or so wide strips. Using the paring knife she cuts along and against the peel one end to the other. The meat comes off clean in a thick strip making for nice chunks. I like to pull the peel strips between my teeth to take off every bit of the meat, like you would an artichoke leaf. "
Using my WorkSharp tool I put a sharp edge on one side of a big S/S spoon. Works pretty good.
New Braunfels is nice albeit very congested thanks to IH35 running thru it. Try Fredericksburg - very cool place with lots of great music, food, about 50 wineries, breweries, and now trendy distilleries.
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Fredericksburg. 1,693' elevation. Sounds nice. I'm gunna check it out if we decide to move back to Texas. 5 years in DFW Metroplex ('06 to '11). Liked it a lot, but probably want something more "country" if we move back.
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First time I tried Ugly Bettey very impress with this variety. The mango is sweet, chalky and piney. Remind me of HK with the piney taste brix 25.
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Fredericksburg. 1,693' elevation. Sounds nice. I'm gunna check it out if we decide to move back to Texas. 5 years in DFW Metroplex ('06 to '11). Liked it a lot, but probably want something more "country" if we move back.
Rather than completely hijacking this thread Message me if you need more info. Area is truly a piece of paradise.....some of the lowest taxes in Texas (City's property rate is 22 cents/$100 for example), CLEAN, farming & ranching community with a college and high school that teaches viticulture, enology, etc. Weather is much cooler than DFW too. My elevation is 1,800' in the country north of town.
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Mango count down has begun.....20 some left. Maha is extremely good, as always, and a prolific mango for us in North Orange County.
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Mango count down has begun.....20 some left. Maha is extremely good, as always, and a prolific mango for us in North Orange County.
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Impressive for a California growb! Annona & mangoes that can't be beaten.
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Mango count down has begun.....20 some left. Maha is extremely good, as always, and a prolific mango for us in North Orange County.
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That is a beautiful selection you got there Frank.
Savor every last bit.
I'll come visit SoCal one of these days.
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Mango count down has begun.....20 some left. Maha is extremely good, as always, and a prolific mango for us in North Orange County.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3i4mic0znv/IMG_8083_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3i4mic0znv/)
What a beautiful site to see! The Fruits of your labor has truely paid off.
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Based on taste/ fruit quality alone
1) Coconut cream
2) sweet tart
3) PPK / LM
4) Carrie
5) cac/coc
As for overall trees to have if I could only have 5? not fair but
1) Carrie --- Early-ish, heavy production, clean tree and fruit
2) PPK------ Early, great production even from small tree, couldn't tell the difference between PPK/LZ but got the PPK in April.
3) Sweet tart---- great tree, the only zill/indo flavor I really love, great production thus far for me.
4) Beverly---- Best of the late season ( have yet to try cotton candy or peach cobbler) Productive
5) Maha schanok------- long season, great floral flavor, easy to manage tree with clean fruit, decent production.
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Orange Sherbet. One mango to rule them all.
Who were the Orange Sherbet trees licensed to? Any idea when they will be released?
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My top 1
Keitt from Mexico.
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I had to buy a mango over the weekend for some school project for my daughter. Bought a couple Mexico Keitts from Publix - one for her school one for me to try. I guess if you like flavorless swill it's a great mango.
I got a couple of the Mexican Kietts at Publix a couple of weeks ago and they were actually pretty good. I did have to search through a lot of them before I found a couple that I felt were properly ripe (actually had a strong scent and weren't hard) and I still let them sit for another 3-4 days before eating. When I went back the next week, all of the ones they had were hard as rocks and had no smell - obviously picked far too green to have any flavor no matter how long they sat.
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Facebook @Mangotreegrowersofamerica so others can be informed of the new mango varieties out. Anyone reporting on the Kathy Mango this year I feel like it has dissapeared fro the radar...
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Facebook @Mangotreegrowersofamerica so others can be informed of the new mango varieties out. Anyone reporting on the Kathy Mango this year I feel like it has dissapeared fro the radar...
Mine seems to be growing at a normal rate with nothing to report. But to be honest, if it has a ZINC flavor profile that doesn't rival my top ten overall mangos it will probably get beat out for yard space by my sweet tart. The ST is defiantly a "flavor bomb" Im going to try to make a sweet tart pie next summer as apposed to a key lime!!!
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The Kathy mangos I had this year were pretty washed out
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Had a small tasting this Am and Peach cobbler took it easy brix26...top 5
(https://s1.postimg.cc/153q1rwwsb/9398_BD48-1_F27-484_E-98_CD-81_EF7002_BECE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/153q1rwwsb/)
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Had a small tasting this Am and Peach cobbler took it easy brix26...top 5
(https://s1.postimg.cc/153q1rwwsb/9398_BD48-1_F27-484_E-98_CD-81_EF7002_BECE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/153q1rwwsb/)
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What else was on the plate, I couldn't quit make them out?
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Peach cobbler 26
2 ST 22 underriped
Maha 21
H.M. Muntant 20
Swehintha 18
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Thanks. My Kathy seems like it does not want to grow at all but my Coconut Cream is doing great and the Pina Colada. I pugged my Peach Cobbler but deers kept eating it and eventually it died of stress. Question should I get rid of my Kathy that is ground planted and put my LZ in it’s place. My LZ is in a 35 Gal container.
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Thanks. My Kathy seems like it does not want to grow at all but my Coconut Cream is doing great and the Pina Colada. I pugged my Peach Cobbler but deers kept eating it and eventually it died of stress. Question should I get rid of my Kathy that is ground planted and put my LZ in it’s place. My LZ is in a 35 Gal container.
What other varieties do you have?
If you have Sweet Tart, which most people have in their top 5, then Kathy (also a ZINC seedling) may be too similar in flavor.
I'd go with Lemon Zest.
Obviously if you can plant all three...
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Thanks. My Kathy seems like it does not want to grow at all but my Coconut Cream is doing great and the Pina Colada. I pugged my Peach Cobbler but deers kept eating it and eventually it died of stress. Question should I get rid of my Kathy that is ground planted and put my LZ in it’s place. My LZ is in a 35 Gal container.
do you like any of the zill indo Chinese type flavors? like a Floragon? Better than a lemon meringue/PPK ? also how much space do you have for it to grow? LZ will be a beast, don't think the K3 will be as big and maybe you could have room for another smallish tree close by. Ive taken up a high density philosophy until I can top graft, that's the way to go. Deer ate your Peach cobbler? Eye for an eye lol. Do you live in wedgefield in east Orlando?
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Where did you get your trees?
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close enough to wedge field more like Avalon Park. I get my trees from all over Florida. From Central Florida to Miami.
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Where did you get your trees?
Yes, I just don't know about that Kathy. I have heard bad reviews on it lately and mine is slow growing. May be one flush all summer.
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you must have the biggest lot in Avalon lol. my Kathy seems a bit on the slow side as well.
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Mahachinok a workhorse. I have about 10-12 left in the tree which start ripening in late July to November. I highly recommend this variety to socal growers for its fine quality and extended season.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3cobnmk3iz/IMG_8201_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3cobnmk3iz/)
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Wow! Congrats. Pretty fruits. How are they tasting this year?? I may graft my Maha to my Nan Doc Mai but only if I decide to ground plant my Nam Doc Mai which is currently in a pot.
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Mangos & more
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Mangos & more
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Unbeatable
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Mahachinok a workhorse. I have about 10-12 left in the tree which start ripening in late July to November. I highly recommend this variety to socal growers for its fine quality and extended season.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3cobnmk3iz/IMG_8201_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3cobnmk3iz/)
Good looking fruits and a great yield from your tree(s)! Mahachinok is a ramped up Nam Doc Mai? So it seems.
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Thanks. My Kathy seems like it does not want to grow at all but my Coconut Cream is doing great and the Pina Colada. I pugged my Peach Cobbler but deers kept eating it and eventually it died of stress. Question should I get rid of my Kathy that is ground planted and put my LZ in it’s place. My LZ is in a 35 Gal container.
My peach cobbler was stolen. I planted a three gallon peach cobbler and two weeks later I went to take a look but it was dug out and gone. Was planted 14ft from the road. Most baffling theft on my property. For sure the scum that took it was not able to grow it properly so it died. Rob gave it infinite praise so this is why I bought one, a good specimen from Bender's Grove.
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Mahachinok a workhorse. I have about 10-12 left in the tree which start ripening in late July to November. I highly recommend this variety to socal growers for its fine quality and extended season.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/3cobnmk3iz/IMG_8201_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3cobnmk3iz/)
Good looking fruits and a great yield from your tree(s)! Mahachinok is a ramped up Nam Doc Mai? So it seems.
Hi Zands
got more fresh ones from the ground a few left on the tree this seems to be a perfect commercial mango from Socal
(https://s1.postimg.cc/6fntozugej/IMG_8282_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fntozugej/)
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It's one thing when they pick fruit you waited for years to try
But getting the whole tree makes you start all over
Landscapers with shovels on hand most likely suspects.
Plant another ahead of the rain and I hope you have better luck
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Thanks. My Kathy seems like it does not want to grow at all but my Coconut Cream is doing great and the Pina Colada. I pugged my Peach Cobbler but deers kept eating it and eventually it died of stress. Question should I get rid of my Kathy that is ground planted and put my LZ in it’s place. My LZ is in a 35 Gal container.
My peach cobbler was stolen. I planted a three gallon peach cobbler and two weeks later I went to take a look but it was dug out and gone. Was planted 14ft from the road. Most baffling theft on my property. For sure the scum that took it was not able to grow it properly so it died. Rob gave it infinite praise so this is why I bought one, a good specimen from Bender's Grove.
Home owners association......
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It's one thing when they pick fruit you waited for years to try
But getting the whole tree makes you start all over
Landscapers with shovels on hand most likely suspects.
Plant another ahead of the rain and I hope you have better luck
Thanks for the inspiration. Maybe next spring I will buy a peach cobbler and culture it in a pot. I am out of room for planting trees. Then use my PC tree for scion wood in top grafting. Then sell it a few years later after I have gotten enough scions.
Is peach cobbler that good? I guess it is from reading comments here.
My HOA went crazy on me (but OK now) but I doubt they would dig up my newly planted tree. But being this is Floriduh anything can happen anywhere at anytime by anyone. This state is full of free lancers and free spirits. The wack jobs that used to infest California come here instead. And one of them dug up and took my peach cobbler.
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My peach cobbler was stolen. I planted a three gallon peach cobbler and two weeks later I went to take a look but it was dug out and gone. Was planted 14ft from the road. Most baffling theft on my property. For sure the scum that took it was not able to grow it properly so it died. Rob gave it infinite praise so this is why I bought one, a good specimen from Bender's Grove.
That just sucks. I hate thieves and the only way I'd grow in most neighborhoods is behind a secured fence with perhaps a pet rottweiler or pit bull. We're still old school here where many still don't lock their doors and most respect other's property.
BTW, didn't we have this "what in the hell are you doing planting outside in the open?" conversation either by email or posts?
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My best mango of 2017 behind lemon zest. Peach cobbler. Simply tangy goodness of sweetness. Brix 24. A must have for backyard gardeners. Grows compact and produces heavy every year for me.
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(https://s1.postimg.cc/1v5hk248ej/20171028_134609.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1v5hk248ej/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/266cp6q88r/20171028_134638.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/266cp6q88r/)
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My best mango of 2017 behind lemon zest. Peach cobbler. Simply tangy goodness of sweetness. Brix 24. A must have for backyard gardeners. Grows compact and produces heavy every year for me.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/228pfhmydn/20171028_141521.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/228pfhmydn/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1v5hk248ej/20171028_134609.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1v5hk248ej/)
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Marvelous Behl. I hope to be a professional grower like u someday.
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Amazing job Behl!! It looks picture perfect
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got more fresh ones from the ground a few left on the tree this seems to be a perfect commercial mango from Socal
(https://s1.postimg.cc/6fntozugej/IMG_8282_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fntozugej/)
Did you see what an enterprising Australian is doing with Maha Chanok mango (at least ten spellings on this mango so hard to track and trace it) http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2016-07-12/mango-farm-planting-40000-extra-maha-bliss-trees/7558378 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2016-07-12/mango-farm-planting-40000-extra-maha-bliss-trees/7558378)
Anyone in USA who copies him can make millions. It's all in the marketing to bored city dwellers and bored suburbans w lots of disposable income.
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My peach cobbler was stolen. I planted a three gallon peach cobbler and two weeks later I went to take a look but it was dug out and gone. Was planted 14ft from the road. Most baffling theft on my property. For sure the scum that took it was not able to grow it properly so it died. Rob gave it infinite praise so this is why I bought one, a good specimen from Bender's Grove.
That just sucks. I hate thieves and the only way I'd grow in most neighborhoods is behind a secured fence with perhaps a pet rottweiler or pit bull. We're still old school here where many still don't lock their doors and most respect other's property.
BTW, didn't we have this "what in the hell are you doing planting outside in the open?" conversation either by email or posts?
A meaningful hedge or fence would carve into my property too much. My town Tamarac maintains a ten foot easement into my property where they are entitled to do anything but in realty prolly never will. But if larded up with enough Federal money they could put in a sidewalk cutting into my property.
Federal money has paid for (financed) so many stupid and unused bicycle lanes where I live so anything is possible
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How do true do they come from seed?
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Federal money has paid for (financed) so many stupid and unused bicycle lanes where I live so anything is possible
Hey, ya never know. People might get smart someday, and start riding bicycles! There are a few of us in my neighborhood who do.
It does improve quality of life.
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Hey, ya never know. People might get smart someday, and start riding bicycles! There are a few of us in my neighborhood who do.
It does improve quality of life.
Riding the neighborhood is fine. Around here this "let's get healthy" trend also creates a bad attitude where they (bicyclists) ride 4 across blocking traffic. Why? Because they can. "Share the road" doesn't seem to be in their mindset - rude is. I live on a wicked, no shoulders, dangerous state highway and these nuts are on it making it dangerous for our rural community commuters.
Yep, fine Peach Cobbler you have there Behl!
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Hey, ya never know. People might get smart someday, and start riding bicycles! There are a few of us in my neighborhood who do.
It does improve quality of life.
Riding the neighborhood is fine. Around here this "let's get healthy" trend also creates a bad attitude where they (bicyclists) ride 4 across blocking traffic. Why? Because they can. "Share the road" doesn't seem to be in their mindset - rude is. I live on a wicked, no shoulders, dangerous state highway and these nuts are on it making it dangerous for our rural community commuters.
Yep, fine Peach Cobbler you have there Behl!
You should see what they do here Mark. Twisty back country road. Blind turns, double yellow line, no bike lane. Hills, cliff on the side of the road. Bikers think its the best thing since sliced bread. They will be in the road and Im behind them in a full size truck waiting for a safe place to pass. Then they are waving me to pass them around a blind turn with a cliff on the other side of the road. They are straight up crazy.
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Federal money has paid for (financed) so many stupid and unused bicycle lanes where I live so anything is possible
Hey, ya never know. People might get smart someday, and start riding bicycles! There are a few of us in my neighborhood who do.
It does improve quality of life.
Come on...are you really using the designated bicycle paths? I see loads of cyclists in packs of 20-50 riding the nicer tree lined streets on Saturday and Sunday. Designated bike paths mean nothing to them. They did this before the bike lanes were put in (make work projects if you ask me) And they do it now in their spandex outfits/ I have nothing against them
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Yes, I really do use the bike lanes on Federal Highway in Boca and Delray. They're great and and make it safer. I hope they add them to A1A.
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In my opinion my risks of being injured/killed while spearfishing with sharks in the area is much lower than riding a bike on the Hwy. without a bike lane... Biking in that situation is too scary and not worth my risks to rewards...
So for exercise and lower risks with still a cardio workout, I walk on my treadmill in front of the TV vs. any desire to go biking.
Now if some are doing it just for risks and an adrenaline junkie or exhibitionist, I understand but I would prefer other quicker venues for excitement & adrenaline release without backing up the car lanes & offending others; and if an exhibitionist I would just prefer to go to some Natural Florida beaches. 8)
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Going the limit on two lane road listening to a toe tapper on the radio when I come to a hill and curve
Just over the top of the hill I see that 3 by 6 inch safety flag dip below vision on the other side
Just in time to slow down before I hit the fifty bikers
One second slower I wouldn't have time to stop
Road is next to West Orange Bike trail
Which was empty of riders and just thirty feet from the road
It's the shorts
Too tight to think
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You should see what they do here Mark. Twisty back country road. Blind turns, double yellow line, no bike lane. Hills, cliff on the side of the road. Bikers think its the best thing since sliced bread. They will be in the road and Im behind them in a full size truck waiting for a safe place to pass. Then they are waving me to pass them around a blind turn with a cliff on the other side of the road. They are straight up crazy.
Same road conditions here - tons of hills, turns, blind spots, cliffs with no road shoulders. Ranchers and farmers have fits as do the general public especially when it comes to annual Hill Country Rides, 100 miles and such. It's open season in Austin, dumbasses don't think and get killed.
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Where I live the cyclists use the bike trails, but badly.
They go the wrong way on one-way streets, and ignore all traffic signs and signals.
They never look both ways at an intersection or entrance. I guess they keep their eyes forward,
and hope for the best.
Actually, those cyclists who use the sidewalks also do it badly. :-\
But that said, I don't think you really need to replace your Peach Cobbler, Zands. Sure it's great, but how many wonderful mango trees does one family really need?
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I pugged my PC around a month ago. It was growing vigorously prior to that. After the Pugging it has not pushed out any branches. Not sure if it's dead. Do you think pugging can kill a mango tree or is it dormant waiting for spring?
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But that said, I don't think you really need to replace your Peach Cobbler, Zands. Sure it's great, but how many wonderful mango trees does one family really need?
I forgot about peach cobbler after the theft but all the positive comments here about PC are getting to me.
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I forgot about peach cobbler after the theft but all the positive comments here about PC are getting to me.
It's pretty darn good and I'm glad I have it, but if I were stranded in Lake Worth with only Dot, Lemon Zest, and one of the ZINC family I think I could still lead a reasonably satisfying life.......
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The last Maha on tree total 63. Long run from first week of August to November
Harvest moon mutant on top
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The last Maha on tree total 63. Long run from first week of August to November
Harvest moon mutant on top
(https://s1.postimg.cc/8q5r4x27nv/9152620_C-72_B3-46_CD-_B042-_ACF889_EDE8_A6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8q5r4x27nv/)
Seems like maha is very productive in our climate.
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The last Maha on tree total 63. Long run from first week of August to November
Harvest moon mutant on top
(https://s1.postimg.cc/8q5r4x27nv/9152620_C-72_B3-46_CD-_B042-_ACF889_EDE8_A6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8q5r4x27nv/)
63?! Holy cow!! How big is your tree?
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The last Maha on tree total 63. Long run from first week of August to November
Harvest moon mutant on top
(https://s1.postimg.cc/8q5r4x27nv/9152620_C-72_B3-46_CD-_B042-_ACF889_EDE8_A6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8q5r4x27nv/)
63?! Holy cow!! How big is your tree?
don't know now after that load....i would say 5' three and a half years on the ground.
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Harvest last mangos of the season. I had two split I didn’t want to take any chances with the rain and the beginning of winter
Guava
HM mutants
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Harvest last mangos of the season. I had two split I didn’t want to take any chances with the rain and the beginning of winter
Guava
HM mutants
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Hm mutant is a very good mangga
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Unnamed sport of harvest moon brix 22-27
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Harvest moon brix 18-20
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Harvest Moon in West Palm Beach, Florida:
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Harvest Moon in West Palm Beach, Florida:
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Harvest Moon in La Habra Ca
Same thing I
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