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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What type of mango is this?
« on: June 24, 2017, 06:49:45 PM »
Pine Island identified it today as Irwin. But the below, they could not identify. Anyone?




Fruit is way too big to be Irwin.

Second pic appears to be Julie

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What type of mango is this?
« on: June 23, 2017, 07:58:44 PM »
More pics would help but from a cursory glance Jacqueline and Zill-80 are candidates

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: venus mango
« on: June 22, 2017, 09:21:08 AM »
This cultivar, while quite anthracnose resistant, is very susceptible to MBBS and the rots.

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Angie gets beautiful, Edward-like blush with full sun exposure but when there's a lot of overcast/Rainy  weather or the tree is shaded they don't get much blush at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone identify this mango?
« on: June 13, 2017, 10:44:16 PM »
Might be Hatcher

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Bump. Second crop is starting to roll so I'm going to start shipping.

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I love Carrie and have a number of the trees, but I no longer recommend it for planting. The trees were once very disease resistant but are susceptible to newer strains of anthracnose in the western communities. They also have responded poorly to the winters of the last several years, producing excessive numbers of male flowers and resulting in poor fruit set, despite blooming multiple times. At one point I had over 40 Carrie trees under cultivation so this isn't just one tree we're talking about, and I've made these observations with Carries grown by others as well. On top of these newer issues are the problems it's always had: supernsoft flesh, short shelf life and window period for harvesting and consumption.

Angie on the other hand does taste quite similar to Carrie...some days essentially identical actually. But the advantages over Carrie are numerous.

- more anthracnose resistance, even to newer strains
- much firmer fruit than Carrie
- longer window period for harvesting
- longer shelf life
- flavor tends to be more appealing to American palates
- better, more consistent producer

Angie's major drawback is it's foliar scab problem, particular in interior areas. This can range from moderate to severe enough that the tree literally can't grow or flower right if it isn't controlled.

Both trees have very similar growth habits. Compact, spreading, not terribly vigorous.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: June 09, 2017, 08:36:22 PM »
first Angie... which is a miracle considering the fruit was found untouched on the floor and this tree was underwater two days ago. Between the ducks and the family of iguanas in the backyard it's amazing nothing nibbled on it. Ate it on the firmer side and it was delicious. A little chalky/tart which I find best for angie (rather than allow it to get mushy).


Very Nice. Love Angie, harvested some this week.

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Mango's don't always color up all the way when grown in SoCal. Here is a picture of a fruit I harvested from my tree. At first I thought it was Pineapple Pleasure but based on size and shape, I believe it is Sweet Tart. This fruit was picked green but got a slight yellow blush when it ripened. Notice how wide and filled in the shoulders are.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21404.msg261476#msg261476

Simon


That's a Pineapple Pleasure.


Yes I think Simon is confuse. Alex, is PP a heavy producer? I got dozens of first time fruits in a three year graft. Does it sets in clusters like sweet tart ?



In Florida thus far PP has been a disappointment as far as production. the trees have a serious problem with premature fruit drop, as do a number of the other new Zill cultivars. Talking about dropping fruit not just small, but large sized past the point that most trees stop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango splitting
« on: June 09, 2017, 10:34:09 AM »

The heavy rain that we have had in the last few days has caused splitting of mangoes in my NDM#4, Sweet Tart and Bailey' Marvel.  The worst affected is ST. Anyone else dealing with this problem?

Alampur Baneshan is the worst when it comes to this.

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Mango's don't always color up all the way when grown in SoCal. Here is a picture of a fruit I harvested from my tree. At first I thought it was Pineapple Pleasure but based on size and shape, I believe it is Sweet Tart. This fruit was picked green but got a slight yellow blush when it ripened. Notice how wide and filled in the shoulders are.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21404.msg261476#msg261476

Simon


That's a Pineapple Pleasure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: History of Gary Mango
« on: June 07, 2017, 08:03:35 AM »
I've watched every single one of the Truly Tropical Videos on Mangos and they are all excellent. Extremely informative and I love how she breaks down the pros and cons. I especially like how she lists whether the mango is Mono or a Polyembryonic.

In this video, I believe Gary mentioned that the Pettigrew or its seed came from a collection from the west coast?

Simon


Pettigrew came from the property of a man named Asa Pillsbury in Bradenton, Florida back in the 1940s.. Part of his orchard was still there as of a couple years ago.

It was likely a Mulgoba seedling and it shares a number of traits with Mulgoba.

Laurence Zill's first mention of it can be found here:
http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1950-vol-63/219-220%20(ZILL).pdf

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Unfortunately I'm not allowed to ship mangos to California due to the state regulations there.

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Yes, it's absolutely a problem with Lemon Zest.

Really?  Interesting because at another forum someone made the remark that many of the Zill releases don't bear as well as the original oldies.  My Sweet Tart is holding 8 (I dropped the rest) and it has 1/3 the canopy of the LZ.  Here's the LZ a few days ago with at least 22 new branches.  Didn't have to drop them, it did so on its own.



A number of the Zill releases have serious issues with excessive fruit abscission compared to most other cultivars. Pineapple Pleasure, Juicy Peach, and Harvest Moon do it too.

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Yes, it's absolutely a problem with Lemon Zest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tree bacterial black spot
« on: June 03, 2017, 07:56:23 PM »
Foliar bacterial spot is a relatively common affliction that has been around a while. Normally it doesn't present much of a threat to the tree other than really severe cases that lead to premature defoliation.

However there are newer strains which also attack the fruit. This has become a severe problem in Palm Beach County. You won't know if you're dealing with that until the tree fruits.

I definitely wouldn't automatically trash the tree just because of some bacterial spot on the leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this REALLY a Mahachanok Mango ???
« on: June 03, 2017, 05:25:49 PM »
OP needs to take more pics.




Looks like a different fruit from post # 5. In this photo it looks more like Madame Francis, which could explain the "Maha Chanok" mislabel.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this REALLY a Mahachanok Mango ???
« on: June 02, 2017, 06:40:40 PM »
OP needs to take more pics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID on mango
« on: June 02, 2017, 06:24:07 PM »
Tommy Atkins.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: June 01, 2017, 07:40:32 PM »
First Zill and Sturrock:


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Most likely a random seedling tree would be my guess.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this REALLY a Mahachanok Mango ???
« on: June 01, 2017, 01:05:03 PM »
Might be Carrie. That one clear pic isn't really enough though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this REALLY a Mahachanok Mango ???
« on: June 01, 2017, 11:39:18 AM »
Not Maha

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Post more pics of the fruit from the side rather than the stem end.

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How did the CC taste this year ?

Thanks Ed

Coconut cream was probably the least impressive of the bunch.

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