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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cogshall
« on: May 21, 2017, 05:14:26 PM »
I believe the correct pronunciation is Cogs-hall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Developing a hybrid mango variety
« on: May 21, 2017, 08:35:58 AM »
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I wonder what technique gary zill uses to cross dfferent mango varieties. Seems he keeps on selecting new varieties from crossing or selection through chance seedlings.

He planted seeds and looked for certain aromatic and flavor profiles. Didn't do any hand pollination. Many of the maternal parents had 'Gary' trees growing nearby so it appears in a number of the crosses.

Using mangos like Irwin and Sensation for breeding projects is a likely recipe for bland tasting mangos. The Israelis leaned on Irwin heavily for their breeding program and almost all their mangos are bland/flavorless.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango...Any idea?
« on: May 18, 2017, 04:39:09 PM »
Maybe Cushman

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Thanks everyone

Thanks Alex for coming out and speaking tonite! Great job and everyone learned something new tonite..... didn't know about Lox grove......guess the humidity was too much to overcome?

Chad

Prettt much. High disease pressure and the farm in West Palm occupies most of my time, tough to do both.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: black chaunsa and Fajri Kalan mango
« on: May 17, 2017, 07:47:53 AM »
How about HIMAYAT (also called Imam Pasand)  that fruits well in florida very sweet large no fiber pale color flesh ,melting firm flesh

I've picked a couple Himalayat/Iman Passand this week. Awesome mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: black chaunsa and Fajri Kalan mango
« on: May 16, 2017, 07:12:03 AM »
That brix reading is crazy high but the "abundant fiber" description isn't very appealing.

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Bump for Central Florida tonight. Going to try to have someone record it for those who requested.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted - Mango Scions
« on: May 13, 2017, 01:51:37 PM »
Hi Alex,
I sent you an email about these. Please reply or PM. Thanks.
Sam

I didn't receive it. Try PM-ing me or you can email Tropicalacresfarms@gmail.com

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Bump for tonight.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted - Mango Scions
« on: May 12, 2017, 11:31:11 AM »
Sam,

I sell budwood and have these available.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bombay Mango Flavor
« on: May 11, 2017, 12:19:19 PM »
White Piri produced its first crop relatively quickly for me. It is *highly* susceptible to powdery mildew and has a poor male/female flower ratio, tending to set fruit almost exclusively on the distillate ends of its panicles. I suspect anthracnose would be a problem for it the iinterior. The eating quality is excellent and I like it even better than regular pirie/Bombay.

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Hi Alex, can you verify the date for the Orlando talk.  Monday of that week is the 22nd while Thursday is the 25th.  You have posted Monday the 25th.  Is it Monday or Thursday (or 22nd or the 25th)  Thanks!

Sorry I meant Monday the 15th. Thanks

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Will there be mangoes for sale at these events :D:D.

Not to sell but I'm Hoping to bring some fruit for sample if I have enough ripe ones available.

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ALEX will you be doing the Naples Run ?

Thanks Ed

If they ask me to speak I'd be interested, sure.

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For anyone interested, This Friday the 12th at 7:30pm I'll be the speaker at the Palm Beach Rare Fruit Council in West Palm Beach. The topic will be about challenges for the future of growing mangos in south Florida. This talk will contain some new subjects compared to the one I gave last August.

On Monday the 15th at 7:00pm I'll be speaking to the Central Florida Fruit Society in Orlando. This topic will be "Growing Mangos in Central Florida" and be geared towards those trying to grow mangos in the more fringe territory of the state's center.

The Palm Beach organization meets at the amounts auditorium located at 531 North Military trail, West Palm Beach

Central Florida is located at
East End Market (2nd Floor)
3201 Corrine Drive
Orlando, FL 32803


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: May 07, 2017, 08:29:29 PM »
First Dot:


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Florida Mango production?
« on: May 05, 2017, 09:28:20 PM »
Very hit or miss. I would rate it better than last year, but still below historical average in most of Southeast Florida. Certainly below 2014 and 2015 production levels (2014 was the "gap" year), owing to the fact that a lot of trees had incomplete blooms.

In the plus side it's looking like a very long season for me. I started getting the first fruits in march and have been selling my little early crop for over a month now. Hoping it will kind of "blend" with the second primary crop, which is off the February/march bloom and is much larger.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: May 05, 2017, 09:09:35 PM »
Hi Squam 256 (aka Alex),

Row 1&2 are what I call typical Glen Mango with peach aroma. Row 3&4 are also Glen Mango with peach aroma, however they are always elongated more and always a little earlier to ripen and usually sweeter. This was my only good tasting mango in the month of April. I prefer this elongated line of Glen. Do you have any like this?



Your row 3/4 mango appears to be Rosigold.
Alex, That would be fine to find out but I am unable to verify much on Rosigold in the forum or online thus far. I tried to find a match through the forum posts but have went back about 200 posts and no luck yet for finding pictures or description of aroma matching what I smell or see with a Rosigold. It has a peachy smell before and after cutting and a peachy taste. I will include a picture of the tree that was graphed about 4 years ago but I did not label the graphs as took many from a nursery from cuttings and buying some other small trees.

I went out I took a picture of the graphed tree with the trunk visible being this graft and the fruit visible with one split being the mango for identification. The other parallel limbs in the background are a graft also but it is from the typical Glen Mango look. I also have Keitt grafted on this tree at another site.

I will also post a picture of the cut open elongated Glen with a seed from another eaten yesterday in the plate. All of the mangos eaten today so far (about 5) were sweet and good tasting except 1 of 2 Okrung Tong.





It's definitely Rosigold, the peachy smell and flavor match as well.

Here are some photos of the few remaining on my Rosigold trees from the first crop. They'll have a second crop in summer:





Great, thanks for letting me know. I guess I'm now in the camp of people who IMO like Rosigold better than Glen....  ;D

I think so too. The earliest Rosigolds usually taste like a store bought Ataulfo, but after a couple weeks their flavor really opens up nicely, and it holds up better to wet conditions than Glenn. Less vigorous tree too and more consistent bloomers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: May 05, 2017, 05:26:14 PM »
Hi Squam 256 (aka Alex),

Row 1&2 are what I call typical Glen Mango with peach aroma. Row 3&4 are also Glen Mango with peach aroma, however they are always elongated more and always a little earlier to ripen and usually sweeter. This was my only good tasting mango in the month of April. I prefer this elongated line of Glen. Do you have any like this?



Your row 3/4 mango appears to be Rosigold.
Alex, That would be fine to find out but I am unable to verify much on Rosigold in the forum or online thus far. I tried to find a match through the forum posts but have went back about 200 posts and no luck yet for finding pictures or description of aroma matching what I smell or see with a Rosigold. It has a peachy smell before and after cutting and a peachy taste. I will include a picture of the tree that was graphed about 4 years ago but I did not label the graphs as took many from a nursery from cuttings and buying some other small trees.

I went out I took a picture of the graphed tree with the trunk visible being this graft and the fruit visible with one split being the mango for identification. The other parallel limbs in the background are a graft also but it is from the typical Glen Mango look. I also have Keitt grafted on this tree at another site.

I will also post a picture of the cut open elongated Glen with a seed from another eaten yesterday in the plate. All of the mangos eaten today so far (about 5) were sweet and good tasting except 1 of 2 Okrung Tong.





It's definitely Rosigold, the peachy smell and flavor match as well.

Here are some photos of the few remaining on my Rosigold trees from the first crop. They'll have a second crop in summer:





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: May 05, 2017, 04:01:48 PM »
First Rumani mango. This cultivar is from southern India



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: May 05, 2017, 12:05:35 PM »
Hi Squam 256 (aka Alex),

Here are some beginning of May fruit at my location that I hope will have some sweetness as most of my April early  tree drops were not colorful and not sweet.

Row 1&2 are what I call typical Glen Mango with peach aroma. Row 3&4 are also Glen Mango with peach aroma, however they are always elongated more and always a little earlier to ripen and usually sweeter. This was my only good tasting mango in the month of April. I prefer this elongated line of Glen. Do you have any like this?

Row5 = phillipean, Row 6 = small Haden picked with fungal issues ripening early, Row 7 = Okrung Tong but unfortunately my early ripening Okrung Tong are not colorful and are much inferior to last July 2016 crop with much less sugar and other normal tastes (it was at the top of my list for IMO best tasting mango last year).  I am hoping more leaves and heat will result in more sugar, better coloration, and better taste.

Have you had a similar opinion of your harvest on current early ripening mango taste vs. normal ripening time frames?


Your row 3/4 mango appears to be Rosigold.

My March/early April fruit typically suffer in flavor comparisons to later fruit, but the fruit I've had the last 3 weeks have been very good overall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: These are Haden mango?
« on: May 05, 2017, 12:02:12 PM »
Bought a couple of these at Aldi's .49 cents each...I thought Haden had some reddish/greenish along with yellow, these are all yellow. Label says Haden but is it really?

Grape tomato next to it for size reference





 the fruit on the bottom could be Haden but the one above the tomato definitely isn't.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What mango variety is this one?
« on: May 04, 2017, 09:01:14 PM »
It is a vigorous grower
This is the first time that it bloomed but only one branch...
I was wondering if this is an egyptian mango call Diab ?
Any thoughts?

No definitely not Diab. Looks more Like Sunrise, one of the newer Zill creations. Makes sense if you got it from a nursery.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What mango variety is this one?
« on: May 04, 2017, 04:53:49 PM »
Some more pics of the tree itself might help also.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango fruit of 2017
« on: April 29, 2017, 01:49:44 PM »
Yay... first mango of the season.

Rosigold:




Pfft, Rosigold is so last month  ;) 

Venus and Maha Chanok:


That's right, I eat Venus in April AND October.
BrettBorders beat me on Maha.

I thought Venus was supposed to be late?

Except when grown by Squam256! Then they're early, late, an in between  8). Had some in October last year.

Is that the normal size for a Venus?  I know Maha is not a large fruit,  I was under the impression that Venus was a 1.5 pounder  or is this just a small specimen ?


They're usually closer to a pound but can get larger. Mahas can get over a pound too.

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