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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria/Plinia Guaquiea
« on: May 07, 2018, 04:54:14 AM »
Stevo, you really should have picked the username Steve T, and piggyback on the reputation of your co-germinal. You would command much more respect from these heathens.

Guaquica is rated very positively on this forum.
For instance, dreamfrutas wrote: "Myrciaria guaquiea, is one of the rarest of all fruits from the Atlantic Rain Forest. Until a few years ago the Guaquica was known only for old references, not even a picture of this species existed. It was mentioned as growing in the seashore of Rio de Janeiro state, in an area with big real state pressure and speculation, so the danger of extinction was really big. Initially we located only one tree, and over the last years I was able to locate a very few more.  The fruit is not only extremely rare, it is also delicious, sweet and fresh, with a complex flavor not plain at all."
Alexandre Neles wrote: "The fruit has a transparent pulp, like glazoviana Myrciaria, however has greater amount of pulp and very sweet. When you bite into the fruit it explodes in your mouth. Guaquica is better, save more pleasant, and does not have what I hate about glazoviana, forget and bite the peel is almost equal drinking perfume, bad taste. On the appearance of the trees, just clean the area with a hoe, fertilizer with manure, coffee straw, that photo to see some of my coffee trees, 2 x 150 g for years, NPK 05.20.20, without irrigation because I have 1490 mm of rainfall a year. In this way the plants grow more naturally, soon intend to take NPK, I will use only organic fertilizer.
Alexandre's tree can be seen here: http://postimg.cc/image/ntrf0rb3v/
E-Jardim has a photo of fruit: http://e-jardim.com/produto_completo.asp?IDProduto=303

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia ID please
« on: April 22, 2018, 11:42:19 PM »
Safe to say it's not E. uniflora.
Are you sure the fruit was ripe? My guess the fruit wanted to get a bit darker in color.
Could be a mutation. Another possibility is it is a hybrid of grumichama and a similar species like E. blastantha, E. ophthalmantha or E. itaguahiensis. Hybrids sometimes have quite different characteristics from both of the parents. I trust you have already asked the seed supplier.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: who grows Kwai Muk?!
« on: April 20, 2018, 04:04:11 AM »
My kwai muk appears to suffer branch die back. Though it is the older branches that are affected - not the newer. It's also happening at a strange time (middle of autumn/fall) and temps are still warm here.




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Apparently one is monoembryonic while the other is poly. That might be a starting point. I'm guessing Maha Chanok and Rainbow are not synonyms after all.

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Has anyone done this experiment? Regular pears normally sink, whereas apples float.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Blackberry Jam Fruit/Randia formosa
« on: April 09, 2018, 06:38:55 AM »
According to Helton Muniz the blackberry jam fruit (R. formosum) is hardy to -4C (25F), however this has not been my experience. Anyone in a cold climate able to confirm?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / New species: Pouteria tennisballi
« on: April 01, 2018, 05:05:34 AM »
Recently discovered in the Amazon region of Brazil.
Grows on clay or lawn.
Can be used dehydrated or deuced.
I will be able to Fedex seeds in future.




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Looking at quantity of 15-20. Need them sent to Europe. Obviously a longshot in subzero temps (and that's fahrenheit too) but will be fun experiment.

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If they are at all like grumichama, then you can propagate from leaves (they root from in-tact petioles). Probably from cutting then as well.

Just wondering why you cant transplant the tree. If it is the one being shaded, then I assume it is smaller than the other trees. Borrow a bulldozer.  8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Videos.
« on: March 16, 2018, 02:08:05 AM »
Julie Frink and Tom Spellman discuss Nimlioh, Queen, G-6, Fuerte, Sharwil at UC Irvine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z5ONrV67MY

Julie Frink gives lecture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7OAmGRQ8OE&

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Why is Peluda de Alagoas (Large leaf Jaboticaba) still referred to as Plinia sp.? It is Plinia jaboticaba (distinct from Plinia cauliflora). If they are conspecific, then so should P. coronata be absorbed. At least, this is the way it was explained to me by Helton, who has read all of Mattos's original work. The key morphological difference is that P. cauliflora flowers on everything from trunk to thin branches, whereas P. jaboticaba only fruits on the thick branches. Varieties of cauliflora include Sabar, Paulista & ponhema. Varieties of jaboticaba include Olho de boi, Rajada, Pintada, a etc... So PdA or Grimal is variety of P. jaboticaba. Or if you want to go with the current incorrect orthodoxy, a variety of P. cauliflora...

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Is Yellow Ubaia a sister-species with Red/Ruby Ubaia (E. patrisii)?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: dwarf mulchi ID
« on: March 14, 2018, 09:20:40 AM »
Dear Jim

Is it difference with giant mulch? I thought only size difference....

Plinia inflata has 2 varieties, one with regular fruit and one with giant fruit.

Plinia salticola = dwarf mulchi = it's own species

BTW this Lucia Kawasaki is a machine. Someone send her Ross Sapote and Luc's Garcinia for IDing

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting avocado tree
« on: March 12, 2018, 08:29:15 PM »
I have avocado rootstocks 2 feet tall but of thin trunk diameter. Can these be side-cleft grafted now (start of autumn/fall here)?

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I have a bunch of biriba seedlings going and they all start branching at 1-2 inches in height. Why do they do this? Should I prune all of them to leave just one central leader and make them grow taller? I plan to graft them all onto A. montana when they are big enough. I want them to bulk up for one good diameter scion each.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« on: February 26, 2018, 04:56:22 AM »
Looks like a hematologist at some point plied his trade at avocado raising

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha Chanok Advice
« on: February 22, 2018, 10:07:08 AM »
Ah ok. Well, it is marketed here that way. Actually, King Thai is, which is a clone seedling of Maha Chanok.

Any recommendation based on the low vigor characteristic?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha Chanok Advice
« on: February 22, 2018, 07:41:48 AM »
What would be a good cultivar to graft onto Maha Chanok in view of the fact that it is of low vigor and semi-dwarf? I thought Ice Cream mango, but that maybe is not an elite mango worthy of sharing the tree.
Only interested in elite types like perhaps Fruit Punch, Peach Cobbler, Sweet Tart, Coconut Cream, Cotton Candy, Edward, Pineapple Pleasure, Carrie... most which I believe are big and vigorous.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: where is the meat
« on: February 18, 2018, 10:55:16 PM »
To opening poster: learn how to use a subject line. They are not supposed to be mystery topic click bait.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Campomanesia schlechtendaliana
« on: February 14, 2018, 02:53:44 AM »
Few know that chamba was actually the inspiration behind British anarchist rock band Chumbawamba. Good harvest song.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc

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Look's like my 2-foot tall plant is about to die, from root rot I think.
Probably because I watered it too much... 9L every evening. But the weather has been so hot and also it is on a raised mound.
Has some shade cloth above it.


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Ok always been a synonym. But now Pouteria gallifructa is the "synonym" with priority, no? That should be the default way to perceive Sapote de Mico. Certainly more streamlined than dealing with lengthy subspecies/varietal nomenclature, that may be more wrong than synonymous.

As for P. torta glabra and P. guianensis (guajava) I suspect some midentification has occurred in the past.

theplantlist.org is probably just working off FloraDoBrasil (with some delay)

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I always found it hard to believe that Sapote de Mico was a subspecies of Pouteria torta, owing to major morphological divergence. Sure enough, the taxonomists at Flora do Brasil reclassified this as Pouteria gallifructa. Also the ssp. glabra has been defined as P. guianensis. Sure to spark disagreement...

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Wait, isn't this the same Samuel that was in Trinidad and Tobago? And you moved to Reunion Island near Mauritius? Now that's a sea-change.

Good luck fruiting those stone fruit if you get them. Although, I do notice your highest peak is 3070m above sea level, higher than the entire Australian continent. Maybe if you have decent elevation...


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Mango splitting problem is continuing for me. I'm fairly sure watering is not the issue. I've noticed that the panicle is turning black (necrotizing?) from the fruit upwards. It must be connected to the problem somehow.


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