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It's a bit off topic but I wanted to clarify the ongoing thought that California is "humidity free". I find it annoying as hell to constantly read about our "zero" humidity. Extremely low humidity is found in Death Valley...on the occasion we get some Santa Ana winds in LA/OC then our relative humidity drops into the teens or single digits even down to the coast. At my location (about 9-10 bird miles) I have an average of 50% humidity in my yard (over the year/quite a bit more in the summer). Granted my yard is lush but I planned it that way, and isn't far off the data I read about other locations close by. I realize that 50% humidity isn't considered humid but it isn't the Mongolian desert either. I realize our sporadic rainfall might lead to the misconception that we are drier than we are...air wise. The driest place on earth in the Atacama desert in Chile has close to zero rainfall but it is humid FYI. I grew up in Denver and often times the humidity was close to zero...not always of course...but it happens. Just an illustration. Go on about your day/night. Peace. Chris

Hi Chris

I am lucky to travel every 5 weeks or so to the tropics and I can tell you first hand even in their dry season SoCal feels like a desert. Reason we can’t grow coconut palm is because of the lack of humidity in the air having said that, I can tell you we can grow almost anything Miami can grow in Orange County....clearly the best growing zone for tropicals in SoCal.  All newbies from SoCal should take a look in this forum archives at some of my post thru the years


















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It depends what you mean by tropicals. Mangos, sapodillas canistel, anonas, litchis, Longan and others are easily grown thru out the LA basin and Orange County. San Diego is a bit cooler but all the above tropicals do great there.  I refer you to Simon’s, behlgarden and my post about California mangos and anonas there are tons of information on this forums archives.










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Here is my 6 year Alano. Planted as a 2’ twig grew fast.




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Ok , would Makok be a good complementary variety to my Alano to have year round fruit? Or any other winter variety ?

If you like lots of smaller fruit yes, I prefer Silas wood they are small fruits but the tree is dwarfish

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Alona is my fastest grower. It blooms year round but fruits start to ripen in June or July and it goes on till November. Silas Wood and Makok are both heavy producers


Thanks for the info guys, if Alano blooms year round would that mean it would fruit all year round? Sorry I’m a bit confused   ???

not necessarily Alex. I’m in SoCal so it takes a long time for the fruits to size up and most of the bloom dry up in winter.....it could be posible in Miami. Here in SoCal  it fruits in the mildest areas so if you live in The Valley or inland empire  it may be years or you may never see fruits. I’m looking into introducing several exclusively winter varieties from the Yucatán we will have to wait and see.

CA Hockey: I have no idea of the rootstock these are nursery bought 3 gallon

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Alona is my fastest grower. It blooms year round but fruits start to ripen in June or July and it goes on till November. Silas Wood and Makok are both heavy producers

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Cool story.
Why are you posting a picture of these Avocado's here?

I think this is the way of him saying, i have scions for sir P?  Lol

That’s the last thing I would want to do is post on this thread......wrong thread Paul

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Sir Prize and Pinkerton going strong. They’ll extend all away to late June just in time for Holiday to be ready



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 02, 2018, 10:46:24 AM »
No it ripens perfectly even delicious  avocado


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Sale is over. I want to thank everyone for their business. Until the next anona scion sale in late August

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama seeds have not sprouted
« on: April 01, 2018, 09:25:04 PM »
Hi JF,
What date did your seedlings first
pop out of the soil? Thanks

These rosada seeds were potted in January 25. the pix you see was front two weeks ago so I would guess somewhere in between.... these are in Yucatán. But these germated in a month in Lakewood Ca.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama seeds have not sprouted
« on: April 01, 2018, 05:17:05 PM »
It’s easy to germinate in tropics in Florida and California a bit longer

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama seeds have not sprouted
« on: April 01, 2018, 05:09:09 PM »
These from seeds that were planted Jan 25
All germinate some burned the are now in ground




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Last two days down to 40-50 seed from these theee varieties

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 30, 2018, 12:06:34 AM »
From a production standpoint, it is hard to top Valencia Pride in California.  It's a productive tree for me.  The taste is ok for the non-mango snobs.  I give this mango to my friends and co-workers because it is pretty and large.  Better than super market mango but not top tier.

Carrie I have trouble getting it to grow well in my yard.  Maybe slightly more susceptible to die backs on florida rootstock based on me and my friend's experience

Alphonso is a pretty tree for me, blooms like crazy but doesn't seem to set fruit well for me.

Keitt I grow only because it is the latest mango in my yard.  allows me to have mangos in January/Feb in the yard.

My friends have good experience growing sweet tart in california. 

My personal favorite is coconut cream

If you want production and adaptability you go with cogshall and Glenn they are much better tasting mangos than VP.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Licia scion
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:17:43 PM »
Need licia cherimoya budwood

In August my friend the next anona sale.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:12:11 PM »
I agree Carrie is the best out of that group..... it made my top ten from over 100 varieties I've had last year. Glenn is ok, the rest are below average.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Breeding Cherimoyas/Atemoyas?
« on: March 29, 2018, 02:31:01 PM »
Behl is right. Atemoyas might set afew weeks earlier but the bulk of the fruits will set late June to July. Ilama, Custard Apple and soursop from August to October.

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All scions have been sold out
Seeds are only available of

Oxkutzcab red
Uman
Peto

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Uxmal red custard SOLD OUT (seeds)
Down to 7-8 scions for
Pink Yucatán sugar apple
Peto custard apple

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That oxkutzcab is huge.

Not only are they huge 2-3lb but these red custard apples are as good as any anonas we have in California. These varieties are much superior to Fernandez and San Paulo which are the reds I’ve had in USA.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Breeding Cherimoyas/Atemoyas?
« on: March 27, 2018, 01:32:52 PM »
Simon
That sounds good.  I’m involved in an anona breeding program but I would be willing to help with pollen from 5-6 species of anona.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Mangos of 2018
« on: March 27, 2018, 09:56:41 AM »
Early mangos are ok nothing to write home about.  Few break 20 brix





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Scions will be sold only until the end of this weekend.
Again, I will not ship anything oversees. USA only.

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Seed $3 per seed 10
Minimum. $2 per seed after 20 seeds.
WILL NOT SHIP OVERSEAS








Seeds only
Peto
Uman
Oxkutzcab






Oxkutzcab red





Uman next to a 3lb black sapote


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