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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Flowers of Poncirus
« on: March 07, 2018, 08:10:23 PM »
All the poncyrus I've smelled have no fragrance.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer Lemon leaf drop
« on: March 04, 2018, 05:38:10 PM »
Give it time. Different varieties will wake up at different times.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: How To Find Love In China
« on: March 02, 2018, 09:20:28 PM »
Neat tradition!

How does someone move one of those large boxes without damaging it? Some kind of dolly cart? I tried moving my old whisky barrel with dolly cart and the wooden bottom fell out.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Growers Forum
« on: February 21, 2018, 07:56:56 PM »
That's wonderful, Sylvain! So nice to see our old posts again. I saved the link to my home screen.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Papeda search.
« on: February 16, 2018, 07:48:59 PM »
Well I hope my seedlings prove to be hardy and produce descent quality fruit too. May all our papedas be blessed.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Papeda search.
« on: February 16, 2018, 02:02:48 PM »
Well Zitrusgaerner, it sounds to me according to Ilya, that almost all seedlings from Ichangensis are actually hybrids of Ichangensis, so our plants aren't true Ichang papeda, no?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Papeda search.
« on: February 16, 2018, 10:11:14 AM »
Thanks for the information, Ilya. I'm growing seeds from two different Ichangensis trees and noticed some seedlings have large petiole and some from other location don't have petiole and resemble an orange or other  mandarin leaf. They are all narrow and pointy leaves though, online the Ichang lemon seedlings growing next to them, which have rounded larger leaves in comparison.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Papeda search.
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:03:12 AM »
Is it possible that some seeds from Ichangensis fruit may produce a true Ichangensis? It can self pollinate, no?  If not, it is probably worth trying to plant seeds from Ichangensis fruit to get more random cold-hardy hybrids, right? 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Saint Valentine's Day
« on: February 14, 2018, 07:44:58 PM »
So, pummelo needs cold weather to color up? I thought they were more tropical than subtropical, no?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: February 13, 2018, 09:00:28 PM »
Ilya, I parked the truck at the end of that metal guard rail on west bound side of Hwy 74 at the sign that said " Livingston Creek ", and walked down the length of the guard rail, scanning the woods as I walked until I got up to the bridge crossing the creek and walked down the steep embankment and jumped across a small flowing ditch/ stream to get to the island/ creek bank described in the story. That bush you got a picture of looks like one of many scrubby laurel bushes I've seen in the area. We've had a pretty cold winter here this year and all the trifoliata I've seen in this state are almost completely leafless right now. I traveled the length of this state this weekend in the passenger seat , while my husband drove, looking out the window looking for citrus trees on the edge of the woods and in people's yards like a fanatic. I really wish I had seen a trifoliata or s citrange in those woods. I even asked local extension agent and park rangers about the swamp lemon, and they thought I was nuts. I had to educate the extension agent about it.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Name That Orange
« on: February 12, 2018, 08:28:17 PM »
Neat. Very informative.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: February 12, 2018, 04:02:49 PM »
This area where I searched was very swampy and The west side of the creek I was standing on was actually an island with cypress swamp to the west. After driving around Columbus county today and in the past, I've noticed that this area is largely swamp land and as many know, eastern NC is known for occasional catastrophic flooding. I wonder if maybe these wild poncyrus trees may have died out from flood damage.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: February 12, 2018, 11:46:33 AM »
Yeah. If I had a public dock to put a canoe in the creek and had permission from whoever owns the property, etc, I could have spent all day cruising those woods, but I was pulled off on side of major highway? A house on other side of creek, just waiting for cops to show up and ask why I'm trapsing around in whoever property, and when I tell them I'm looking for wild citrus in NC, the'd take me to the nut house. Actually, I knowhat poncyrus looks like in winter and if it was where I was, I would have seen it. It would be more productive to drive around the area scoping out people's yard to see if one is in front yard, and then chance knocking on their door to inquire about a tree.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: February 12, 2018, 10:33:42 AM »

Well guys, the fantasy is over! I went to the Livingston creek in Delco, NC and tromped around on the west side of the creek and alas! Didn't see no swamp lemon tree, no Sasquatch, and not even a unicorn!  I've called around all the local nurseries and no one knows what I'm talking about and only one nurseryman in Wilmington has flying dragon and Meyer lemon. I've been to Purple Pepper nursery in Delco, which is a rocks throw from the creek, last year and they had no citrus. They're closed January and February but I stopped and looked through fence and saw no trifoliate or citrus. Left a message though. Actually, I got my three trifoliata trees from Sandy Mush nursery in Sandy Mush in western NC, and the owner told me she got hers from local person who makes marmalade out of hers, and the fruit I've tasted from my tree isn't horrible and actually has a lilac kind of flowery taste. So , since I can't find a special swamp lemon, I'll be content with my special mountain orange!!! I'm going back home now.

The spherical citrumelo is possibly a Dunstan which resembles a white grapefruit. I've eaten one before and it was a grapefruit as far as I'm concerned; an old fashioned sour white grapefruit full of seeds. The grower I got the fruit from labeled the seedling tree I bought from him s " Dunstan grapefruit ".  The trees I've grown from those seeds have proven to be more cold hardy than any other hybrid I have.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: February 11, 2018, 12:15:18 PM »
I am currently en route, embarking on an exciting adventure, to Delco, NC in search of the elusive and highly sough-after Swamp Lemon! I'll let y'all know if I find some. Hope to find some seed-filled fruits in a ditch off of hwy 74, or maybe a local nursery will be open tomorrow and have a lovely assortment of potted specimens to choose from at a very low price! Got it all figured out.

Maybe poncyrus is a product of the hardy rue plant bred with an ancient papeda. Rue is same family and has a multi-lobed leaf pattern like poncyrus, and makes tiny fruits that actually remind me of some of these lobed/sectioned shaped citranges I've seen. It's all very interesting.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: US 80-5 citrumelo
« on: February 11, 2018, 10:46:31 AM »
Try looking up "Ponds and Plants" in Dayton, TN. Also try "Chilly Palm Tree" in Charlotte, NC (704-527-8478). I think I tried ponds and plants years ago and wasn't successful. Haven't called chilly palm yet.


I actually tasted a Swingle citrumelo at McKenzie Farms during one of the citrus expos and thought it tasted like a strong lemon. I'd like to try growing another one since they do make a large impressive fruit. And yes, I know zone 8b folks on the coast will say Swingle is trashy and only good for throwing, but if my neighbors drive by my house one snowy day and see a large citrus tree covered in these large "lemons", they would probably drop their teeth and come knocking on my door. I think more nurseries should start grafting trifoliate hybrids on dragon at least as novelties for those of us in colder climates.

I've asked growers at southeast citrus expo to graft trifoliate hybrids and Ichang hybrids on dragon so those of us in colder zones can have something better than straight trifoliata, but I just get blank stares or they tell me to graft my own; they don't think about the fact that we don't have access to dragon rootstock nor are my seedling citranges old enough to produce fruiting wood yet. I've got probably ten seedling trees from woodlanders several years ago; they come in gallon pots about 1-2 ft tall. They have all grown well, doubling in size in a season. Trifoliate hybrids do experience winter die back here, losing newer wood that is not at least pencil thick, and sometimes dying back almost to or to the ground. If you have s bad freeze, down to zero or a late spring freeze in the mid teens after new growth starts, you may lose your graft and be left with dragon if not protected. You can ask Stan McKenzie of McKenzie Farms out of Scranton, SC to graft you a Dunstan citrumelo on dragon. Actually, the last time I asked him for Ichang lemon on dragon or Changsha on dragon, I think he said he had some Thomasville citrangequat on dragon. In 7b you may be able to succeed with a Thomasville. My Thomasville seedling came back from roots after polar vortex killed all my other citranges including Swingle citrumelo dead.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: African shaddock X Rubidoux trifoliate
« on: February 08, 2018, 07:10:51 PM »
No, I grew my citrumelos from seed from fruit given to me from a grower in Virginia Beach.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: African shaddock X Rubidoux trifoliate
« on: February 07, 2018, 07:05:22 PM »
Well, my Dunstan citrumelo trees have performed pretty well here in zone 6b for the past three years with no protection.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Dekopon Seed Germination
« on: February 06, 2018, 07:34:41 PM »
It may take more than a week to sprout seeds. Some of mine are taking between three weeks and three months indoors in pots.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: African shaddock X Rubidoux trifoliate
« on: February 06, 2018, 07:27:47 PM »
So it's a citrumelo variety?  What's it called?

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