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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Apple trees
« on: August 16, 2017, 06:45:57 PM »
Different varieties bloom at different times, so need to plant varieties that are compatible. Consult your local extension agent to to see which varieties they recommend.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree wound paint ?
« on: August 14, 2017, 08:05:41 PM »
I used to use it all the time, but nowadays "they" say we shouldn't because it traps disease in the wound. One less thing for me to buy.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Apple trees
« on: August 14, 2017, 10:23:25 AM »
Since you're in FL, you probably already know this, but you need apples with low chill hour requirement such as Anna, Dorset Golden, or Einshimer. I don't graft either. Don't have time to experiment and wonder if will take. Easier to plant another tree. 

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stone Mulch in Temperate Climate?
« on: August 11, 2017, 09:02:55 PM »
I would be concerned about fall leaves getting stuck between stones and having to pick leaves out by hand. I have a few stone-covered areas with corrugated pipe rain water drains to prevent erosion of the slope in front of my house. Fall leaves get stuck between stones and after doing leaf blower of rake, theee are still s lot of leaves in between stones and I try to pick them out. May not be as bad with round stones. The other thing is that organic matter will build upon and under stones even with landscaping paper under them and it is more difficult to remove stones for any kind of cultivation that may be needed in the future. I'm a fan of natural mulch that will break down into compost over time and is easily remove with rake or shovel, and easily disposed of.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Early August zone 7b fruit crops
« on: August 10, 2017, 06:49:47 PM »
I got my persimmon and paw paw recipes off internet. Haven't made the persimmon preserves since 2007; my grandma loved persimmon and I made her some preserves that year just before she passed away. The bears have been getting my persimmons the past few years. Knock on wood, the critters haven't been after the paw paws like they do everything else.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Early August zone 7b fruit crops
« on: August 08, 2017, 08:01:34 PM »
Yeah, I'd rather make jelly out of crabapple or peaches, or even wild persimmon preserves than try to mess with tiny fruits like tupelo or elder berries, or service berry; would be exhausting trying to pick enough. Oh, my paw paws make great preserves.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Greening Discovered In Alabama
« on: August 08, 2017, 07:56:09 PM »
So tragic. I hope it doesn't make it to western NC. We may all have to go visit greenhouses one day to behold a citrus tree, like seeing rare art in a museum.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: breeding - what can I do with citron
« on: August 08, 2017, 07:45:31 PM »
Good luck with your efforts with citron and Dunstan, SoCal2warm! It will be interesting to hear about your results. Maybe your offspring will have interesting leaves, part trifoliate and some unifoliate. May be difficult to test for cold hardiness in south CA though, no?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Early August zone 7b fruit crops
« on: August 07, 2017, 09:43:14 PM »
My paw paws are not ripe yet. Usually not ripe here until a ways into September. Cool summer here; barely getting into the 80's last week. Don't think I've hit 90 degrees this year, and my citrus hasn't grown much at all. Plenty of rain too. Highs in 70's predicted this week. I didn't know the ogeechee lime was a type of tupelo; I have wild tupelo with small black fruit on it in my yard.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: breeding - what can I do with citron
« on: August 07, 2017, 09:18:17 PM »
I tasted swingle at McKinzie Farms in SC several years ago. To me it looked like a large lemon and tasted like a bitter lemon. To me, lemons are bitter, and I don't want to eat one like an orange; that's any lemon. Lemons are for pies and lemonade. Sure, there are better, sweeter lemons/ citrus to eat, but to me to see a citrus tree growing and producing anything better than trifoliata in north central SC, even if it's bitter, is an absolute miracle to behold. This coming from someone born and raised in Bradenton, FL, the home of Tropicana.  Dunstan citrumelo to me tastes like an old fashioned white bitter grapefruit that I would not eat as a child in Bradenton, but would watch grandpa eat every morning.

The article mentions that 100% of mature citrus trees in FL are infected; that is scary and so tragic.

Humans are part of nature, part of the web of life. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves; that's from Chief Seattle. We are changing the face of the planet by degrees every day with our use of land, water, and natural resources, including our means of travel, whether by land, sea or air. Similar to a beaver bringing logs to his dam and changing the flow of a river. People brought citrus to America and it became naturalized in FL. Now we inadvertently brought psillids and emerald ash borer to America, and will see the demise of citrus and ash trees.  We will read about citrus and ash trees in the future like we read about the American chestnut now. The only hope for citrus will be genetic programs for resistance and/or immunity to greening like the American Chestnut Society is doing for chestnut blight.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: The History Of Citrus Fruit
« on: July 28, 2017, 08:12:22 PM »
But think about how many pomegranates it must take to make a bottle of juice. I'm also perplexed about how many almonds it must take to make s gallon of almond milk.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Second Citrus bloom?
« on: July 27, 2017, 07:40:49 PM »
My croxton grapefruit took well over a year to ripen two years in a row and the fruit quality and color not good. Supposed to be pink grapefruit but was only a hint of pink after being on tree over a year. Did spend winter outside though protected from severe freeze with plastic sheeting and space heater but was kept dormant. Citrus, especially grapefruit need a certain number of heat units over a year/season for development. I learned this on this forum. Someone put a map showing heat units zones for the USA on this forum once; similar to the cold hardiness map, those of us north of SC don't get optimal heat units over a year's time for citrus development.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: The History Of Citrus Fruit
« on: July 26, 2017, 09:09:11 PM »
Very interesting. The citron makes me think of the popularity of the pomegranate. Really not good quality fruit, difficult to eat out of hand, yet for some reason trendy and popular for centuries among fruit enthusiasts.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Meiwa blooms for 2017
« on: July 24, 2017, 07:17:24 PM »
That's right, eyeckr. I had the well driller guys smell the blossoms today since they hadn't had the experience before, living in WNC. They had to replace the electric box that controls my well since lightning killed it again yesterday.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Croxton 7/23/17
« on: July 24, 2017, 07:12:25 PM »
Ben Salley in Columbia, SC. He lives across the road from Dr Croxton's house, and got his trees from the original. He sells trees fro his place there and at a market in Columbia on Saturdays. His business is called Simply Citrus, and has a site on Facebook.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Meiwa blooms for 2017
« on: July 24, 2017, 08:00:53 AM »
The fruit on Meiwa  overwinter on the tree and don't ripen until April or May. My satsumas fruit are harvested December through January and of course also spend time under cover since first freeze here is around Halloween.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Meiwa blooms for 2017
« on: July 23, 2017, 08:29:48 PM »

This is from March 12th.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Meiwa blooms for 2017
« on: July 23, 2017, 08:26:52 PM »

Citrus General Discussion / Re: new greenhouse planning
« on: July 23, 2017, 08:16:46 PM »
Congratulations on the new baby, Brian! Good for you; building a greenhouse in zone 6 is the best way to grow citrus with less muss and fuss in the long run. I wear myself out running around covering and uncovering trees 6 months out of the year.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Meiwa blooms for 2017
« on: July 23, 2017, 08:06:54 PM »
I cover my trees with 4 mil plastic over pvc pipe frames/domes, and have small desk-size space heaters plugged into  thermocubes so heat comes on at 35 degrees and turns off at 45 degrees. I uncover or vent trees when daytime highs in 50's to try to keep trees dormant. Also have 32 gallon water barrel under cover with each tree.  I'm trying to load a photo but power is out here right now, so have no wifi and bad cell signal on this mountain.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Croxton 7/23/17
« on: July 23, 2017, 05:32:32 PM »
Bloomed this spring with 5 small fruit on two foot tall tree on dragon.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Meiwa blooms for 2017
« on: July 23, 2017, 05:27:26 PM »
My Meiwa is finally blooming! 7/23/17.

So many possible factors. How big is the tree? Is it root-bound? Is it growing inside or outside? How often are you watering it?  I've found that plants do better if grown outside in an environment that closely resembles their native environment as much as possible. Good that it has good drainage since citrus roots don't like to be wet all the time. They also like to dry out for a few days before the next rain/ watering. I'm sure Millet and others can give better diagnosis than me, but I'm guessing you have a wet root problem or some kind of root die back problem. If roots are black instead of white when you pull it out of pot, your roots are dead and would need to repot after removing the dead parts of roots.

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