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Well, all I have to say is if the scientists want to GMO spinach into citrus to save the citrus species, Go For It! I doubt mixing spinach with citrus will make us sick.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ponderosa Lemon vs NZL
« on: April 22, 2017, 02:01:52 PM »
I've not had one since I was a kid, and I thought it was bitter (ponderosa) but so were the FL grapes that grandma grew. My other grandma ate what I now know were Nagano kumquats right off the neighbors tree, and they were NASTY! Grandpa ate bitter white grapefruit every morning too.

I think my poncyrus trifoliata fruit smells good when cut open. Similar to lilacs. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ponderosa Lemon vs NZL
« on: April 22, 2017, 07:28:01 AM »
My grandma had s ponderosa lemon in FL when I was a kid. She used to put a straw in the lemon and give it to me to suck the juice out like lemonade.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Flying Dragon and node count
« on: April 21, 2017, 07:46:10 PM »
Wow citrange! Your weather challenges sound like mine! We count our blessings if the trees survive freezes, high winds, droughts, fires, hail, deer, bears, voles, borers, ice storms, greenhouses collapsing under snow, etc...

Oj will get more expensive as the citrus trees die off from greening. Eventually people won't have them in yards either unless the species can be saved from greening.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Flying Dragon and node count
« on: April 21, 2017, 09:33:30 AM »
I have two FD, same age, about 4 years from seed, one 2.5 ft tall, the other 2 ft talk, and neither have bloomed. I thought one might this year, but hard freeze killed most of the bloom on my PT's, so maybe the FD buds got frozen too.

Rue plant. I'm concerned about the native "toothache tree" which is in rue family and ranges from FL to Canada.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Groves in Central Florida
« on: April 18, 2017, 07:32:12 PM »
Some may be groves that were just let go by land owner. I remember seeing neglected groves as s child in FL, way before greening outbreak. Have seen apple orchards let go in NC to.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citsuma Prague
« on: April 17, 2017, 06:33:32 PM »
I looked up chimera and looks like it is two different species fused together. Do we call this citrandarin chimera instead of hybrid because it has a good mandarin quality fruit on a trifoliata tree, whearas most trifoliate hybrids have a tree body and fruit that is a mix or blending of the two parent trees?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Can citrus be grown in Austin, TX?
« on: April 15, 2017, 10:22:03 PM »
Citranges and Ichang lemons and Changsha should be easy to grow in temps like that I presume with little to no protection.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citsuma Prague
« on: April 15, 2017, 10:12:11 PM »
That's neat. I wish I had a citsuma Prague. Would be nice to have a tree from , as grandma says, " the old country". The growth habit looks a lot like my citrange seedlings.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Painting trees
« on: April 14, 2017, 07:41:07 PM »
How about inward growing branches on trifoliata and its hybrids; is it ok to remove inward growing branches, because they sure do like to produce those? And thorns. Lots of thorns.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: The best tasting orange for coolder climate?
« on: April 11, 2017, 07:31:03 PM »
Those yellow/brown branches are dead.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma experience
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:28:10 PM »
DFWCitrus, what did you cover the satsumas with? Plastic or frost cloth?  I've been covering my grapefruit and owari and Changsha and Meiwa with 4mil plastic and put small desk-top size space heaters inside the pvc pipe -frame enclosure for the past several years, and these trees survived zero degrees for several nights. I've also lost citranges that I tried to protect with frost cloth. Maybe your trees were not very dormant when the temps in the teens hit. I have a citradia citrange that did good with a low of 7 degrees this winter, but after a warm February, it started budding out, and when I got two nights of 14 degrees, the new growth died and it lost entire branches. We have to protect more when trees not dormant.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Sassafras root suckers
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:57:11 PM »
Sassafras trees grow wild here. I've cut them down to plant other trees in my orchard, and the sassafras keeps coming back from roots. Can't hardly kill it even with round up. I bet if I jerked a piece of it up and planted it it would grow here. Where do you live? Maybe your climate isn't conducive for sassafras. It's blooming on the sides of the road here right now. Pretty yellow flowers. Roots do smell like root beer!

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tang Li pear (Pyrus Betulaefolia)
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:49:21 PM »
Kind of looks like the invasive Chinese callery pear that comes from seeds of the common Bradford pear. They grow wild in these parts.

I think melanose or maybe greasy spot. Either way, treatment is clean up dead leaf litter and remove dead wood and spray copper fungicide, per my University of FL diagnosis sheets.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: what's going on with my mandarin?
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:16:13 PM »
Spider mites are tiny sucking insects that almost look like dust on underside of leaves. I can see them, but some people have to use magnifying glass to see them. Sometimes I stare at the leaf while I lightly touch the dustiness on the leaf and I can see a speck or two move. That's mites.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma experience
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:03:50 PM »
Try Kimbrough. Mine has done very well with winter protection, even sailing through a night of 19 degrees or lower during an ice storm with no electricity to powerful my space heater in its plastic greenhouse without dropping leaves and fruiting the next year.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Papeda search.
« on: April 06, 2017, 07:55:36 PM »
Yes. Clem x tri is a citrandarin, no? I need to try a mandarin- trifoliate hybrid. Should be pretty hardy.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Last year for my xie shan
« on: April 05, 2017, 07:54:28 PM »
I had more owari and Kimbrough than I could harvest and eat myself this winter and some lasted on trees into late January. I definitely noticed a reduction in sweetness and increase in puffiness and dryness in the older fruit. If another variety matures sooner, I imagine it would be pretty dry and puffy by late January.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Plants from root cuttings
« on: April 05, 2017, 07:44:24 PM »
Very interesting. I have crabapple trees that put up leafy shoots from roots, called water sprouts I believe, and these new treelings don't bloom like the other new branches on the flowering crab trees. Similarly, I've dug new sprouts from roots of rowan trees that have since grown into 10 ft-tall trees before they bloomed. I bet citrus trees grown from root cuttings revert back to low node count like seedlings.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Papeda search.
« on: April 05, 2017, 07:30:21 PM »
Hi eyeckr. Good to hear from you again. I have several Ichang lemon trees that I grew fro seeds from a lemon you gave me several years ago at the SE citrus expo in Myrtle Beach. Several in ground are 5 ft tall or more and were protected in a high tunnel for the past few years. They look pretty rough this year ironically enough with the warm winter we had. Totally defoliated with some dead branches. I loved the fruit, but at this point doubt that it will be cold hardy enough here when/if they get to big to cover. Don't think I'll be able to cover them next winter. I had a swingle citrumelo but it died in the polar vortex a few years ago. I have some dunsta citrumelo trees, again from one of your fruits, that have survived the past two winters in ground with no protection at all with some leaves still hanging on. I just figured Ichang papeda would be even more hardy than citranges, similar to PT. From what I've read, papeda is supposed to be full of seeds, no?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: When to harvest gold nuggets
« on: April 03, 2017, 04:56:37 PM »
Oh wait. You're saying your fruit from last year hung on for over a year. I've only heard of mandarin getting less sweet and puffy after hanging on tree too long.

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