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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam Cherry
« on: September 29, 2017, 06:39:10 AM »
Kevin, how high is your plant? Would love to see a picture of it with the container so I could see its form.

Regarding the resinous aftertaste I read on the hort.purdue site that cutting open and chilling the fruit may help dissipate it.

"For table use, they are best slit vertically on one side, spread open to release the seed(s), and kept chilled for 2 or 3 hours to dispel most of their resinously aromatic character."

Seems like a lot of work for a small fruit but if it improves the experience......

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Your favorite zone 8a plants?
« on: September 01, 2017, 11:46:55 AM »
Here in north Texas which is zone 8a the following have done well for me

Pear
Jujube
Figs



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If you have any I would like to buy some or trade for some.

Thanks!

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Thanks! How tall is your tree and do you prune it to keep it contained?

Since the fruit seems to bear on the trunks my thinking is to prune it often to create more branches and control height and width.

Anyone growing the sweet type? Would love to graft a branch on to my tree.

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I am growing one in a container from seeds I got from Adam.

I have several questions on them.

1. Does anyone else grow these in a container and able to fruit?

2. How long before it fruits?

3. Are there cultivars or selected trees that have superior tasting fruit or large fruit etc?

I kept 3 plants and was able to easily graft branches from each other.

Thanks!


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Local pick up only in Flower Mound. PM me if you are interested.

All grown in containers.

Gefner Atemoya $50 (fruited last 2 yrs)

Gefner Atemoya small grafted plant $10

Sugar Apple - green $40 (fruited last 2 yrs)
Sugar Apple - red $20 ( 2nd yr plant starting to flower - seeds came from Adam)

Che - Mellon Berry $15 ( grafted on to Osage Orange)

Cherimoya $10( 2+ year old plant)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garage ripened container Gefner
« on: December 20, 2015, 09:29:44 PM »
Hi Max,

I do have a north facing window in my garage but it only provides very little light. The lights I use intermittently are 4ft LED shop lights, not the fancy LED lights that are used to grow plants. Last year it survived these conditions fine. Sometime the outside temps went down to the 20's F. It dropped most of its leaves, but come late February they want to grow so badly and start new buds.

I have had Guava fruit enlarge and ripen in the garage over winter but they were not quite as sweet. The Genfer blew me away because it was sweet and tasty! My summer temps are high - in the 90-100F for July, Aug and Sep. Wish I had a green house, but this arrangement seems to work fine for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garage ripened container Gefner
« on: December 20, 2015, 12:13:04 PM »
Thank you all for your input!

The container is about 15 gal. 22" diameter and 17" high. At the beginning of the year when I moved it to this container from a 3 gal. the container looked overly big for the plant but then it took off. I will need to strategically prune it before new growth starts. It will be in the garage for the next 4 months or so but will start putting out new buds before it gets warm enough to be outside.

I might take up on your suggestion and put it in a cloth container next year. I have had very good growth with those pots with other tropicals this year.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Garage ripened container Gefner
« on: December 19, 2015, 07:42:44 PM »
My container Gefner survived the winter of 2014/15 in the garage. In early June I pollinated several flowers which resulted in one fruit.





The average first freeze date in my area is around Nov 15 so I moved the Gefner into the unheated garage with the unripe fruit around Nov 10. I provided some light for  a couple of weeks and then discontinued it.

Well yesterday, after being in the garage for well over a month,  I noticed the fruit had fallen. Today I cut it open and ate it and to my surprise it was sweet and delicious! (while not a fair comparison it was much better than a $10 Cherimoya I bought at the store.)

I had thought of getting rid of it as it is very vigorous and wanting to grow large but now I think I will keep it.

Do you have any tips on keeping it small in a container and getting a few fruit every year? I pruned it last year and know how to do that.
What I am interested in is does the location of the flower affect chances of ripening early?







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is Cherimoya a good heat tolerant rootstock?
« on: August 23, 2015, 07:43:33 AM »
I am growing some Cherimoya seedlings from a California grown fruit.

I plan to graft Sugar apple and Atemoya on to some of these.

I am growing these seedlings under a fig tree now as they tended to burn in full sun once the heat kicked in.

My Gefner Atemoya and Sugar apple seem to handle the heat fine. The Gefner better than the Sugar apple.

The question is would these seedlings do ok as a rootstock as far as heat tolerance?


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Is it MBVS? (Marseilles Black VS)

This one takes the Texas heat like a champ. Also cold hardy(lows were in the teens F on a few nights). Did not protect mine last winter and lost only a couple of small branches. Its been in the ground about 3 yrs. One issue for me is that when it is very hot (100F) they tend to ripen quickly and they are not as sweet. Birds love the dark color and its a challenge to protect them as well.

The fruit tends to hang on the tree and not drop when ripe. They hang on till they dry up. 




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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Phyllanthus acidus seeds
« on: August 23, 2015, 07:14:08 AM »
I was able to get 4 plants out of about 10 seeds. Took over a month to germinate the fresh seeds.

Are these trees individually male, female or hermaphrodite?

Or individual trees produce all three types of flowers?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this container Sugar Apple ripening?
« on: August 16, 2015, 05:54:19 AM »
Thanks Adam! I must have over watered it. I have micro sprinklers on a timer and it waters two times a day. Since it is very hot I have been hosing it down once a day as well. This may have been too much.

Does Atemoya behave the same way by splitting when over watered? I have a Gefner with one fruit on it and don't want to loose it.

Jegpg Thanks for the ripening info! This is the first time for me to grow this plant and now I know what to look for.
I have not eaten a Sugar apple in perhaps 30 or more years so was looking forward to trying them.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is this container Sugar Apple ripening?
« on: August 15, 2015, 10:13:49 AM »
This second year Sugar Apple is growing in a 3 gallon or so container.

I see small cracks forming between the sections. Is this an indication that it is ripening? (or something else. Its been hot here - around 100F for the last 2 weeks)
The fruit is a little larger than a golf ball and feels fairly firm. I pollinated this one in May.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Guava rootstock
« on: June 06, 2015, 07:25:34 AM »
I too was thinking about growing guava on a dwarfing rootstock. I grow five kinds of guava in containers and wanted explore ways of keeping them smaller.

Several weeks ago I came across a reference that mentioned that Costa Rican guava( P. friedrichsthalianum) when used as a rootstock has a significant dwarfing effect.

Google search the following string for this reference;

Tropical, Subtropical Fruits & Flowers Cultivation Chinese guava graft

Read the section under:  Disease and Pest Resistant Rootstocks (For me the first result returned by google)

I also thought about using P. nana as a rootstock. Top Tropical has them on their website but currently not available. Looks like there is a pink as well as a while variety.

4484 Psidium guajava Nana (dwarf), Pink - seeds
4233 Psidium guajava Nana (dwarf), White - seeds

Not sure if these come true to type.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujube Cultivar Identification Help
« on: May 30, 2015, 02:49:15 PM »
I got my scion wood from England's Orchard Nursery. They ship dormant wood around January.

Here is a pic of some fruit.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujube Cultivar Identification Help
« on: May 28, 2015, 11:42:27 PM »
GA866 is a shy bearer for me but tastes very good. Sweet with some acidity.

Sherwood is larger fruited than GA866 sweet but not as much acidity. Sherwood also has only a few thorns. My Sherwood flowered but did not bear for 3+ years. Then I grafted several varieties onto it. That year it produced many fruit.

I also like Redlands 4 which is a pumpkin shaped fruit of good size. It is sweet and a heavy bearer for me.

Li second crop that ripens in the fall is sweet and of good size. The summer crop is not that good. I think when it ripens over a longer period during the cooler part of the year the fruit tastes better.

Sugar cane is small but sweet.

Try your jujube with some white wine or beer!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pugging my Geffner Atemoya
« on: May 19, 2015, 06:16:46 AM »
I understand you exactly Droshi. I am in the north Texas area also. Apart from what you mentioned regarding letting it fruit.....

1. If it stunts growth that's a positive as I want to keep the tree small.
2. I want to know soon if the fruit quality is ok based on our hot summer climate - may decide to cut my losses if it does not turn out ok.

I too have a Geffner that I acquired last year. Smaller than yours. I am trying to get one fruit out of it. I have only a few flowers left so it is not looking good for this year.

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Hi Bush2Beach, how can you tell the male and female plants apart?

Is it by leaf shape, growth habit etc?

I recently grafted a couple of scions on to a wild mulberry and they are pushing buds now. Not sure if they are compatible long term.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning Guava Tree
« on: April 30, 2015, 10:48:47 PM »
Thank you all. I pruned it leaving around 3 strong shoots per branch. Next I will give it a shot of ferts to get it going. I need it to flower by end of May so I can get fruit before frost.

This has fruited before. It is about 4 years old. I grafted the left branch when the root stock was the thickness of a pencil. They are both white crunchy types.
I plan on approach grafting a couple of other varieties on to it. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pink guava in pot.
« on: April 29, 2015, 10:49:40 PM »
Here's an air-layer I grew that had a pair of seedless fruit. The tree was about 2 ft tall. Those were the only seedless fruit it produced. The container is about 12 inches in diameter.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pruning Guava Tree
« on: April 29, 2015, 10:45:08 PM »
I have a white Thai/Vietnamese type guava growing in a 15 inch container.  I over winter this tree in the garage.
In March a pruned some branches to keep it from getting too tall. Now each of those pruned branches are sending out multiple shoots.
Should I trim these to a maximum of say 3 shoots per branch? Otherwise the tree would get crowded with multiple branches.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Trees for Central Texas
« on: April 23, 2015, 10:29:25 PM »
Growing in a container may be the best option unless you are willing to put in a bit of effort to protect it well during the really colds spells. It may survive if you don't protect it but may be set back to the point where recovery takes time and flower set may be delayed and it will be cold again before they could ripen. Takes 4-5 months to ripen for me from flower set.

I have been growing a white crunchy guava in a container for about 7 yrs. Stays in my garage for 5 months out of the year. I get ripe fruit in the Sept/Oct time frame. Last year due to the cold spring nothing ripened in time. However several ripened in the garage much later.

I added Ruby Supreme, Indonesian seedless and a large pink guava to my collection last year. I am pushing them right now to flower so I can sample the fruit before it gets cold again.

I also found out this past winter that supplemental light during winter storage in the garage helps keep the guava trees in better shape.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is this pest on my Guava trees?
« on: April 20, 2015, 10:30:52 PM »
That is it! Thank you both!

Looks like ants help these guys. Time to put some tanglefoot around the trunk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is this pest on my Guava trees?
« on: April 20, 2015, 06:12:16 AM »
Thank you Das but it does not look like a guava moth based on a google search. I know the photo is not the best.

They don't actually eat the leaf but I suspect they suck the juice out of them. If I don't control them the tree declines.

They are very soft bodied and has a white powdery coating on the outside. If you slide your finger on top of them without any pressure they just smear.

Also, I have not seen them move.

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