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My 5 year long quest continues... I have only managed to procure a single plant and it is only a few inches tall and does not grow. I have had no luck with seeds. Mostly, the seeds I have bought have just rotted. Last year, I received a good batch of seeds that rooted and rodents dug them up and ate them.  I am looking to buy plants or ultra fresh seeds, from tree to outgoing mail in 3 days or less.

Here are my rankings on taste.

Top Tier
Bangkok Lemon
Excalibur Gold
Excalibur Red

Very Good
Mai 3

Mai 1

Have not tasted
J-30 - Hoping to get fruit in 2018
NS1 Hybrid
Red Morning - Low Production in my yard, 1 fruit per year for the last two years, broke the first off accidentally way early and animals got this year's crop
Thong Prasert
TM Red (soon)

I enjoyed watching the video.  Thanks for sharing. 

Anyone know what happened to the mother Phoenix tree that nearly killed it?

Is the splitting on Kathy worse than Sweet Tart? I am inland and Sweet Tart gets black from the splitting. Normally the flavor and eating quality are not affected. Occasionally insects larvae infest the fruit.

Juicy Peach sounds like it will do well in my yard.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best fruit tree fertilizer
« on: October 16, 2017, 04:12:38 PM »
General guide fertilization in the image attached to this post:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mamey Sapote cultivars
« on: October 13, 2017, 02:01:38 PM »
Based on flavor of the varieties I have tried, here is my ranking:
1) Lorito
2) Green Sapote - TREC (close enough to mamey)
3) Pace
4) Pantin (may not have tasted a prime example)
5) Viejo
6) Magana

Sepeda(Cepeda?) Especial is rumored to be excellent.

I have 7 trees in my yard in the ground over 4 years, pantin, pace, lorito, Viejo, Sepeda Especial, and TREC GS.  I have only harvested 3 pantin fruit. Lorito has the nicest appearance and is the best grower. Pace and TREC are the slowest. Next year, I will probably harvest around 30 fruit.

I have to agree with those. I will add Pineapple pleasure, J12/Fairchild Ruby, and Peach Cobbler.

Pina Colada
Lemon Zest

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Juciy Peach and Peach Cobbler Mango
« on: August 09, 2017, 05:01:05 PM »
Mine are scabby with just a hint of yellow.

Just picked a 20 lbs honeygold - $30

I currently have (while supplies last):
Goldnugget - 8lbs - $16
Goldnugget - 10lbs - $20
Mai 3 - 11lbs - $22
Mai 3 - 14lbs - $28

I am located in Southwest Ranches, FL (I-75 and Griffin Road). Send me an email or PM to arrange a purchase.

NS-1 that I have grown in my yard have a ton of latex. If it was purchased with the core already removed and was refrigerated, I can see how someone may think it was low latex. Taste this year was excellent.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to hi-jack this thread; i just wanted to share the experience I had when buying a section of jackfruit last week. It was sweet, aromatic and crunchy and of course; they don't know the variety besides that it came from Florida. It was one of the best I had and check out the rags to flesh ratio! It also had very little latex. I was so impressed that I planted the seeds, something I never do.


I am not a jackfruit expert, but perhaps NS-1.  Because the relatively few seed pods.

I have lost around 10 trees to iguanas, mostly mulberry and sugar-apple. A 6 ft iguana will climb a 2 ft tree to get to a snack, which results in a snapped tree.  I have only seen a few this year but I keep the air rifle ready.

I have seen basilisks messing with my trees but they do minimal damage.

Iguanas are primarily herbivores but in the wild an iguana will forage. They don't typically strip a tree or plant and kill it.

I have two different lemon zests and they both have different growth habits. Fruits taste the same. One is tall and produces smaller fruits, the other is more spreading and produces larger fruit. Must be differences in the rootstock or soil nutrients.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rain = Washed Out Mango Flavor?
« on: July 04, 2017, 10:35:24 AM »
I would have to agree your fruits have been excellent relative to what I have collected from my yard.

My fruit have been excellent. Been really dry here for the most part.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this Val Carrie Mango? (See Pic)
« on: July 04, 2017, 12:11:57 AM »
Here is a picture from a Val Carrie fruit I picked Sunday.

I agree that the season seems to be variable. Trees that were late one year can be early the next.  Quality and flavor can vary quite a bit too.  Smell of the uncut fruit does not mean much about the taste.  I have had them smell wonderful outside and taste badly and smell horrible outside and taste wonderful. My trees have not produced any monsters yet, 34 was my biggest, but my trees are all under 5 years old.  Personally, my perfect jackfruit is under 15 pounds. I do not like to freeze or otherwise preserve so bigger fruits get wasted. Most consumers do not like to buy fruits over this size either.  Uncut fruit sells for around $2 or more a pound in south florida to consumers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Phytophthora infection of Jakfruit
« on: June 12, 2017, 04:24:08 PM »
My assumption is that the tree is going to die and relieve me the burden of the choice. It seems pretty far gone.  But I will continue to treat it just to see if it will recover.

I am not sure if this is valid information but I read it is possible for the infection to spread when infected foliage gets rained on and splashes adjacent foliage.

I do agree that all my trees were exposed and only this one seems extremely susceptible.  Now that I know what infected foliage looks like, there are some other trees that have foliage that might be signs of phytophthora. These might be just potassium deficiency.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Phytophthora infection of Jakfruit
« on: June 12, 2017, 12:05:55 PM »
Yesterday, I took a walk through the yard and found one of my Jak trees looking pretty terrible. Looks like the rain we had has claimed a victim. We had no rain the past two days and the tree looks totally drought stressed. I sent the pic to friends and the consensus phytophthora.  This morning I drenched and foliar sprayed with K-phite, which is the same as agrifos or plant doctor.  To me the tree looks pretty bad, maybe past the point of no return but I have no experience dealing with this.

My questions for those with experience treating infected trees are:

Should the tree be removed to avoid the accidental infection of other trees?

If no, is it possible to keep an infected tree healthy and productive with continued treatment?

How frequently does an infected tree require treatment?


Tissue cultures can be fast.  I have taken a 4 inch tissue cultured White Jade to flower formation in 14 months.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rain...
« on: June 07, 2017, 11:10:51 PM »
My acurite weather station recorded another 3.5 inches today. That makes almost 14 inches in the last 3 days. I have fish from the canal swimming in my back yard.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rain...
« on: June 06, 2017, 10:50:07 PM »
3 inches yesterday. I think we will hit 7 inches today. Roof leaking in 3 different spots!!!

4 years ago, I planted 3 jak seedling trees in an equilateral triangle around 1 ft apart. The trees seem to be very sympathetic to the needs of each other. These trees are team players. The trunks are mostly straight up and the horizontal branches tend to grow away from the other trees. One is growing a bit faster than the others and has its first fruits hanging. The other 2 are pumping out males. I think when planted this close, they seem to ration nutrients and the growth of a single tree is divided among the group. If these trees were planted 8ft apart, they would be twice the size they are now.

Around the same time, I planted 2 jak seedling trees a foot apart in another spot and the tree planted to the north is 16 ft tall and the tree to the south is 6 ft. The bigger tree cradles the smaller sibling and does not put out hotizonal branches through the space occupied by the other, even though the small tree is sparse. The big north tree has is first fruits.

Nice experiment Ethan! 

I did a walk through the yard and found 3 fruit which directly sprouted from the trunk.  The other 80+ fruit sprouted from horizontal branches, 4 to 24 inches away from the trunk.

Personally, I think Seacrest's taste/quality puts it in my top 10 mango list. Rob has stated that not many feel its taste is top shelf. Try it before you plant it. I cannot comment on season or production yet. I believe it is a July fruit.

How does 'Seacrest' compare to 'Beverly' in terms of quality, taste, production and season?

'Beverly' Mango is superior in taste when compared to 'Keitt' (TFForum research: Jeff...).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The story of Two Mahachanok mangos
« on: May 23, 2017, 09:09:01 PM »
Harry had the same as Excalibur. I know this because they taste exactly the same as the fruit from my tree, which I purchased from Excalibur.  He also fruited 3 seedings, which are no longer to be considered MCs.

I understand that both Excalibur and Zills imported mahachanok from Asia, but that the trees are slightly different.  What are the differences?

The are actually 6. Harry has 3 and Leo Manuel from San Diego has his own from the Thai government
The best I've tasted are Harry's, Leo Manual and Excalibur are next

I got around 10 fruit from my hasya tree planted 4 years ago and 3 fruit last year. One weighed in at 1.2 lbs, softball sized. None of my 4 sap trees produced well this year. On a weight basis, hasya was the winner this year.

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