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They received a $3.5m gift back in March that will be used to help protect the trees.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favorite grape?
« on: May 14, 2019, 01:06:27 AM »
I grow flame in the baking sun of AZ and it grows very well, almost too well, lol.  3rd year in ground nd not tasted it yet, but, it probably has about 200 clusters of grapes right now.
If you are talking about store bought grapes, everyone in my family loves cotton candy.

That sounds like a pretty heavy crop load. I'd consider thinning them which should give you sweeter, larger grapes. It's usually done earlier but should still be effective. Do a web search on "thinnig grapes" and you'll find lots of information. I try to leave only 2 clusters per shoot but my vines are over thirty years old and not that vigorous.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favorite grape?
« on: May 09, 2019, 01:35:16 AM »
I think you made a mistake taking the Thompson back. It is an excellent homegrown grape at least in California. Commercial growers do things to make fruit big, look perfect, ship well, and be as early to market as possible. All this is usually in expense of the flavor/taste. A homegrown Thompson will be miles better than store bought.

Agreed.

I grow Flame, Thompson, Summer Royal, Princess, Crimson, and Summer Muscat.

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A side note - Gardening Centers in France have noted an uptick in the sale of yellow vests.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: What citrus would you plant?
« on: December 27, 2018, 11:06:16 PM »
I think the OP is planning on 16 trees, 4 from each category.

Mandarins sweeten just in California zone 9b.

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At my local store, maybe yours, too. Also, good buys on weed killer.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Expert-Gardener-Citrus-Food-6-4-6-20-lbs/914156798

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Chinese bayberry
« on: May 28, 2018, 05:43:49 PM »
Someone here in the US has dubbed them "Yumberry". Isn't that cute?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Curly peach leaves
« on: May 18, 2018, 05:28:59 PM »
Spinosad is for insects. Your "curly leaf" is caused by fungi. You need a copper-based fungicide, like Bordeaux mixture.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stone fruits?
« on: April 10, 2018, 05:20:13 PM »
I don't know if it would work for stone fruit, or where are few or no chill hours, but I've heard of people picking the leaves off of apple trees to force them into dormancy when they don't do it naturally.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree not thriving...
« on: April 09, 2018, 06:27:22 PM »
Does Miracle Grow Garden Soil contain "bio-solids", a.k.a. sewer sludge?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: New Miss Florida Citrus 2018
« on: March 22, 2018, 01:00:53 AM »
I've always been partial to brunettes...

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Picture request
« on: March 15, 2018, 04:41:35 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I guess variety and growing conditions would effect size even when using the same rootstock. One of my 30+ year old Owari Satsumas, on an unknown rootstock, is only about 12' tall. I was thinking of adding a Gold Nugget, and a Moro.

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Citrus General Discussion / Picture request
« on: March 14, 2018, 06:55:54 PM »
I'd like to see some in-ground, mature trees on Flying Dragon. I was planning on adding a couple of trees on C-35 but with the encroaching Asian citrus psyllid I'm thinking I could maybe enclose a smaller tree.

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I see Lapins cherry only requires 400 hours, it's a good one.

Go here to check your chill hours -

http://fruitsandnuts.ucdavis.edu/Weather_Services/chilling_accumulation_models/Chill_Calculators/?type=chill




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Dave Wilson Nursery has some low chill cherries (Zaiger's varieties). but results aren't that good. Cristobalina has a pretty goood reputation and only needs 200 chill hours. www.arboreumco.com carries them but is already sold out for this year. Craig's Crimson is 500-600 hours, probably the next lowest (besides the Zaiger varieties). Some of Dave Wilson's nectarines have pretty low chill requirements.

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Citrus General Discussion / Bay Flora Nursey in CA no longer selling citrus
« on: February 23, 2018, 04:07:28 PM »
A note on their front page says due to Asian Citrus Psyllid quarantine. I kept putting off ordering a couple of trees, ya snooze, ya lose. Few mail order sources left here and those can't ship outside their quarantine area.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: C35 rootstock tree size
« on: January 27, 2018, 02:47:11 AM »
Four Winds Growers has Oroblanco and Rio Red. They are in NorCal and can probably ship to you. I don't think they are in a quarantine zone. Most of their trees are on Cuban Shaddock, which is NOT a dwarfing rootstock, despite what they will tell you. A while back someone on another forum said they do a few varieties on Flying Dragon, so you might want to call or email and ask, specifically, about the ones you're looking for.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: C35 rootstock tree size
« on: January 25, 2018, 04:08:10 AM »
I assume you are talking about La Verne Nursery. If it were me I wouldn't rely on what you are being told, or those product labels. Not that I have any knowledge of them engaging in deceptive practices but, logically, it doesn't make any sense to me.

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After delving further into Hi-Yield Spreader Sticker in order to answer the question I've come to the conclusion that it shouldn't be used. It consists of alcohol ethoxylate and alkylphenol ethoxylate. Alcohol ethoxylate appears to be surfactant only while alkylphenol ethoxylate does have emulsifying properties. Alcohol ethoxylate appears to be safe, however alkylphenol ethoxylate is an xenoestrogen (it acts as an estrogen). It's been proven to cause the feminization of aquatic organisms and decrease male fertility in those organisms. There are predictions that most men in North America, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand will be infertile by 2060 and I have to wonder if ths is a contributing factor.

Bonide brand spreader/sticker, which contains the same ingredients, is listed as "not for sale in California". Of course, that could just be because they refuse to pay the fees California demands for certification.

Southern Ag spreader/sticker contains octyl phenol polyethoxy ethanol, a known carcinogen,  and also contains isopropanol, rubbing alcohol. Monterey "spray helper" is mostly cotton seed oil but also contains the above mentioned xenoestrogen, at 17%, and isopropanol.

I could find little to suggest that Tween 20 (Polysorbate 20), suggested by Millet, is harmful. Polysorbate 20 and Polysorbate 80 are the same base chemocal, polyethoxylated sorbitan. The difference being lauric acid.added to Polysorbate 20, and oleic acid added to Polysorbate 80. Polysorbate 80 is not known to be carcinogenic, but studies have found decrease fertility in rats at very high rates of ingestion. The key being "very high rates". So, Tween 20  appears to be the safest option.

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Amazon carries urea from Alpha Chemicals. I looked at their website and it says "maximum biuret = .5%". The price at Alpha Chemicals website is considerably cheaper but shipping costs might tip it in favor of buying through  Amazon. 1, 5, and 10 pounds ships free if your combined Amazon-shipped items exceed $25.

I'm not crazy about Amazon's dominance of the retail sphere but often it is the best (or at least most convenient) option.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Urea%2BAlpha%2BChemicals

http://alphachemicals.com/urea

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I don't think the tree has been fertilized unless indirectly from when they fertilized tomatoes growing in the same planting bed. I'm going to try to get them on a schedule but they don't take well to instruction. Last year he pruned off all of the small wood on his peach tree despite my explaining how to do it  (I wasn't there at the time) - didn't have a single peach.

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A 16oz bottle of Hi-Yield brand spreader/sticker runs about $7 at Walmart.

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I don't have a scale that will weigh small amounts. Can someone guesstimate how much 100 grams would be in cups or tablespoons?

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Thanks, Millet. Looks like a shopping trip is in order :-)

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A friend has a Gold Nugget Mandarin on Flying Dragon. It was purchased as a "5-gallon" tree and has been in the ground for three years. It's still really small. Would the .44-lbs. per 2 gallons of water (actually a gallon or less would probably suffice) mixture be recommended for this tree?

Thanks

gary

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