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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Longan question
« on: September 26, 2014, 09:40:56 AM »
They should be brown.  But, pick one and sample.  They should be juicy with soft flesh.  You can put up a picture also so I could see what they look like. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotic fruit in Munich
« on: September 23, 2014, 11:24:40 PM »
They give away the granadillas for free in Colombia.  2.50 euros in Munich...uff.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: September 2014 Yard Tour Contest
« on: September 20, 2014, 07:30:02 PM »
This is part 1 and 2. I wasn't done, but my phone battery died. Tomorrow I'll finish the video



I enjoyed the tour of your grove today and if it counts, you have my vote.  Great to meet you in person.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why do you have fruit trees?
« on: September 18, 2014, 01:48:12 PM »
I've been vegetarian for many years now.  The way to make it stick as a lifestyle is to make it interesting beyond salads and store bought fruit.  Living in S. Fla expanded my mind to the many options available to living here as a vegetarian. 

But, living initially in a Miami Beach apt. our only choice was to drive to Homestead, which was not practical or overpay at the green markets for second tier selection.  We can do much better than Whole foods living here. 

It led me to looking for a property of my own in the Redlands to enjoy fruit off the tree.  Other considerations were that it is a great hobby to occupy my time if I decide not to have a day job anymore.  A grove has potential to produce income to offset costs of owning the property.  There is self sufficiency in the event of emergency.  Also there is a satisfaction you get from caring for a living tree and having it bear fruit to sustain you.  Sharing fruit from my property with friends gives me pleasure when they enjoy something I grew that is better than anything they can buy in the store. 

Many of the same reasons mentioned by others in this thread.

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David,

Thanks for the comments.  I would definitely like to have you come over and look around and meet you as well.  We are very close to each other.  I'll send you a pm.

I prefer a chemical free property.  I bought the property about 3 months ago and the caretaker has been handling the trees for many years now and uses chemical extensively.

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Since I've started using snail bait I'm starting to find snail carcasses on plants and around the area.  Here's one I found this morning near some 3 gallon mango plants I haven't planted yet and new growth was being attacked.

Har - I'm new to the board but it looks like you know quite a bit on the topic.  A lot of my new 25 mango plants have not gotten off to great starts, can I reach out to you for some advice off the board?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Had my first longan!!!
« on: September 17, 2014, 09:49:40 AM »
I have seen Chris Rollins speak about thinning longans a few times.  He always says go through and cut off 50-60% of the fruiting panicles.  Then, go back through and cut of half the remaining panicles.  This is for full-grown trees, but allows for large, tasty, fruit.

You have me interested in Diamond River now

Here's a close up of some of my longan panicles after thinning.  I would say even as much as 2/3 is removed to get large fruit.  Mine are eventually sold to Chinese wholesalers who desire the larger fruit. 






On Canal St in NYC Chinatown I saw the larger longans being sold for a $1 to $2 per lb premium to smaller longans.  This picture was the smaller longan which sold for $5 to $6.  The larger sold for $7 to $8.
 




I have never developed a heat rash.  But here is what one site says about Longan.

http://www.home-remedies-for-you.com/herbs/longan.html

Health Benefits and Therapeutic Uses of Longan:

There are many health benefits and therapeutic uses of the longan fruit. These various health benefits are listed below.
Longan has long been used as a remedy for stomach problems such as infections and pain. Eating longan fruit is regarded a natural remedy for treating a stomach ache. The fruit helps to improve and boost the immune system and this helps the body fight against various diseases.
Longan also helps to improve the working of the cardiovascular system as well as the heart.
Longan is rich in potassium and is therefore helpful in maintaining one's blood pressure and keeping it normal.
Eating longan is also a good way to cure anemia as it helps to improve the rate at which iron is absorbed into the body.
The leaves of the longan tree contain quercetin which has antiviral and antioxidant properties. They are therefore used to treat various cancers, allergies as well as in treatment for cardiovascular diseases and diabetes.
Consuming dried longan fruit is believed to help cure people of sleeping disorders like insomnia.
It is also used to treat health conditions such as amnesia and neurasthenic neurosis.
Longan fruit also helps to improve the functioning of the nerves as well as calm the nervous system.
The kernel of this fruit contains fat, tannin and saponin which act as a styptic.
Longans also contain phenolic acids which act as powerful antioxidants and also contain antifungal, antiviral and antibacterial properties.
The fresh fruit of the longan tree is often consumed to reduce and bring down high fevers.
The seeds are often given to persons to consume if they suffer from heavy and excessive sweating.
Longan also helps to reduce aging and helps to improve one's skin, particularly, around the eyes. It is believed to improve one's complexion and prevent skin from peeling as well.
This fruit is also believed to nourish the blood as well as invigorate the spleen.
The fruit also helps to reduce fatigue and lowers irritability in people as well.

Other Uses:

The seeds and rind of the longan are burned and used as fuel. The seeds once crushed, produce foam which is then used as shampoo. The wood is used to make furniture, agricultural implements, posts and for construction purposes.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan and Lychee
« on: September 17, 2014, 12:21:14 AM »


Boy, those air layers look great, with fruit too? How long ago did you start layering them, and when did you separate them from the parent and pot them??

They were just potted in the last week.  Around 12 weeks or so to get sufficient roots.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee and Longan fruit set
« on: September 17, 2014, 12:18:09 AM »
Purple alligator,

Thanks for the pictures, I see you have some beautiful mature trees. What is your favorite tasting variety of Longan? Thanks,

Simon

I only know the Kohala longan which is the most common variety here in S Florida.  I think they are great.  I share them with others who have never had longan and they always love them and ask for more.  I have lots of avocado and carambola now and offered them to a friend who said no but would love more longans and an airlayer to plant his own.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Updated Mango Varieties Chart
« on: September 17, 2014, 12:13:52 AM »
Search the site for "ultimate mango list".
Last time I looked seems like it required to join Google group (or whatever) to view it, used to be able to just view it.

DM

I tried to access but was required to request access which I did.  No access granted yet.  Any suggestions?  I'd like to see the list.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee and Longan fruit set
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:04:03 AM »
I had a small July/August harvest of longan.  Many trees did not set and sprayed with a potassium foliar spray and are now full and look ready for a late October harvest.












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan and Lychee
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:59:20 AM »
Here's some air layered longan from my trees that will be planted soon.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FGM Jakfruit Fest photos
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:56:05 AM »
Here's my haul of trees.  J-31, Fairchild first, Black Gold, and Gold Nugget.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2014 Jackfruit Jubilee at Fairchild
« on: September 14, 2014, 03:25:19 PM »


I saw a few forum members including: HMHausman, cbss_daviefl, FloridaGreenMan, gunnar429, Berto, & omarudy. Anyone else was there?


I was there also, arriving during the cooking lecture.  I had conflicts and couldn't make the first 2 lectures by Dr Campbell and Noris Ledesma.  I did attend Chris Rollins lecture and consulted him on my tree purchases.  I bought 4 trees at $25 each.  The J-31's sold out but there were many remaining of the others by the time I left. 

I don't know any members personally so I couldn't identify who was who.  But as noted it was much more intimate that the craziness of the mango festival. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question about Miami/south FL lodging.
« on: September 11, 2014, 09:12:25 AM »
Coconut Grove maybe a good option.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Reminder: Jackfruit Jubilee Sat 9/13
« on: September 10, 2014, 12:56:50 PM »
I'm going to be there. I've also been officially accepted as a part time volunteer on weekends at Fairchild. I want to pick up 3 trees. Which ones are recommended by the experts here?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What are your favorite ornamental fruit trees?
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:39:34 PM »
I'm going to be planting out the area in front of my house with an edible landscape. My objective is to plant the most visually appealing trees enhancing curb appeal of my home while also providing a fruit I'll love to eat. They will all be inside the primeter fence. I estimate 10 to 15 trees. I'm in the process of finishing planting 24 mango trees in the back of the longan grove and behind and beside my house.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Way to Consume Carambola
« on: September 06, 2014, 06:46:16 PM »

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Yes lo-RPM will juice wheat grass and greens and a Breville will not. A Breville will juice celery just fine and this is the most common green that  people juice.  Juicing watermelon rinds with my lo-RPM Greenstar took too long and I still had to press out the pulp. So now I use the Brevill and then press the pulp in my homemade press.

Your Omega Vertical is the latest so maybe it goes through carrots and watermelon rinds quicker than my green star

So how did you break your long fast? I think watermelon is the best way to reintroduce solid food. Then raw vegetables/salads...Then.....
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The vert has no problem with carrots at all and gets a very high yield.  Pulp on everything comes out pretty dry.  The vert only has problems with fibrous veggies like celery unless you chop it.  Otherwise the pulp ejector gets clogged with the long fibers.

I broke it with melons, oranges, and salad.  It wasn't as big a deal as if it was a water fast.  It was much harder entering the fast as detoxing from caffeine and the general detox process gave me some headaches during the first week.  By the 3rd and 4th week I felt amazing and likely could have gone longer but psychologically I was ready to eat solid food.  I initially lost 1lb per day and it leveled off at .5 lb per day loss.  I'm going to do it again next January. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Way to Consume Carambola
« on: September 06, 2014, 08:04:53 AM »
The Omega Vert is a much better juicer, but a little more expensive.  Totally worth the extra cost in my opinion.

http://youtu.be/2q50XbF0Db0

Try juicing watermelon rind quickly with that low RPM vert juicer. I have lo-RPM juicers and know what the deal is. I don't believe all the propaganda (I used to) about high RPM destroying enzymes and over heating juices. Especially when the produce is refrigerated so you juice it when cold. I have a juice press and I can still squeeze more juice from the pulp after juicing with my low RPM twin gear juicer

BTW the guy in your video has lots of fruit and veg growing videos. He even has one of Benders Grove in Davie (one of our nursery members)
http://www.youtube.com/user/growingyourgreens

I think people should use the juicer that works best for them.  Any juicer is better than no juicer.  :D  I put this out as an example of what I use.  I have the Omega vert and a Breville high speed juicer.  I use the Omega 90% of the time.  For a quick carrot or celery juice the Breville is great.  But if I'm juicing greens the Omega is a must.  The press is obviously the best, but not as convenient as a machine.  Last January I did a 1 month juice fast and used the Omega exclusively.  And, I can juice a watermelon very fast in it.  The pieces just need to be cut a little smaller to fit the mouth of the Omega.  But I've gotten very fast over the years at prepping fruits and veggies for juicing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Cookie Monster Orchard Project
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:55:26 PM »
I hope you are getting an agricultural exemption on the property tax as an added bonus.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Way to Consume Carambola
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:17:03 AM »
The Omega Vert is a much better juicer, but a little more expensive.  Totally worth the extra cost in my opinion.

http://youtu.be/2q50XbF0Db0

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Snail baits containing Iron Phosphate are safe and effective.   I'm not familiar with the one shown.

Not all snails on plants are harming the plants--- some kinds actually survive by cleaning algae and fungi and bacteria off the leaves.

I don't recall seeing snail damage on mangos, but then I have never been around Giant African Snails.

I hope your spray man is certified to spray;  it is the law when working for hire or on some else's property.

It's an iron phosphate snail bait.  Of course he is certified. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Where To Buy Tropical Fruit Online
« on: September 01, 2014, 08:36:00 PM »

[/quote]I don't know anything about online stores, but if you do both on site/local sales and online sales(shipping), then advertise every where: CL other sites/forums, etc (here included), i'm sure you will get some business coming to your future business. Price should be competitive with other sellers around you(I think fresh longans range from $1-$5 /lbs retail? and whole sale may be a bit less, depending on crop availability that year and how much they buy(wholesale). But, just don't charge anything like how lycheeonline prices theirs, $14-$20/lb  ???.

I guess that works for some, but not all people/consumers will agree to that price range.

Just my .02  :)
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A neighbor of mine had and early crop (late June) and was getting mid $60's for 20lb boxes wholesale.  Now in peak season, they are going for $20 for a 20lb box wholesale if they take them at all.  I expect the later October/November crop will get a good price.

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So since I moved into my new property a couple months ago, I've been working on my goal of getting a lot of mango varieties in the ground.  I bought 5 at the Fairchild mango festival and another 19 from Pine Island.  Several of them have been under attack, and some are doing great.  The Vallenato I bought from Fairchild is doing great, flushing and no damage at all.  The Angie has been in the ground the same 6 weeks and any new growth has been attacked. 

My longan caretaker was here Saturday and showed him the damaged plants still in pots and he immediately said "son caracoles" (snails).  He said they come up at night and feed on the leaves and new growth and are back in the soil in the daytime. 

Some of the leaves were curled like in some of the pictures I see here.  He said he was going to spray them for me (he was fumigating the longans for ants and whitefly).  I had to leave so I didn't see if he actually  was able to.

But I went to home depot and bought this snail bait today.  Does anyone have experience with this being effective?



I was out trimming the grass around the trees and putting down the snail bait at dusk today and what did I see on the Alphonso mango I planted yesterday but this snail on a top leaf of the Alphonso, confirming his diagnosis.



Here's the Angie that I'm still hoping is going to make it after being ravaged.  New flushes have been killed off almost immediately.  The green grass around it are just freshly cut clippings on top of the mulch ring.



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Notice the prominent disclaimer on the box stating clearly the prohibition of shipment to Florida.
Harry, that's because you guys can grow them as well, so no sale for you guys ;) I'll gladly get some from you next summer, I couldn't get any from Alex(squam) this past season, he said the crop this year was scarce, so not worth it for sale. Though, I did get some of his lychee. They were ok, I would love to get some of your fresh longans, next year, if you sell them to forum members?

I have a late crop coming this year in late October/November.  I've never shipped and have a grower manage the grove from A to Z and he sells to a Chinese wholesaler.  Next year I may set aside a few trees to see if I can establish an online presence as well as by appointment only.  I'm not sure how much effort it takes to generate enough orders to make an online store feasible.  Any thoughts from someone how has experience in this is appreciated.

I had some come out in July/August and the were outstanding.  I gave some to friends who never tried them (and didn't even know what they were) and they loved them and want more.

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