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Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« on: February 18, 2015, 01:17:07 PM »
Has anyone had success growing Quararibea cordata in Florida?




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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 02:22:42 PM »
They have it growing in the Whitman Pavilion at Fairchild Gardens, Not sure if it ever fruited though.  Maybe Noel will know.
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2015, 07:29:18 PM »
Not exactly Florida but the same latitude in Mexico , Pacific coast  , doing very well here at 300 meter above sealevel 20 degrees North , no problem with low 7 Celsius in the winter nights . My trees are over 3 meters now .
Here's a pic of a seedling.

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2015, 08:44:18 PM »
Im gonna put one in the ground this spring. Im optimistic that itll be possible to grow these and fruit them here
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2015, 10:37:32 PM »
Off course, Bill Whitman had it fruiting in its property in Miami, and I remember very well how delicious the fruits were!!






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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2015, 07:23:15 AM »
You ate from bills chupa chupa?
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2015, 09:16:11 AM »
I also ate from Bill Whitman's tree at Balharbor, north of Miami Beach.   I haven't heard of any other fruiting in peninsular Florida.
Maybe in the Keys?
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2015, 10:53:42 AM »
Thanks - this is encouraging. I can still remember the wonderful taste of the fruit. Our guanabana still last leaves on it, so hopefully we are in a warm enough pocket to grow it here.

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2015, 06:47:41 PM »
Yes, I ate the Chupa Chupa at Bills, they were delicious. Last year I found a lot of them in the Central Market Panama, the size was not even 50% of the size of the ones at Bills place, but the flavor was also very good. Weird thing I got no germination at all (may be 1%) of the Q. cordata from Panama, when the one from Bill had a gret success rate of germination.

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2015, 07:08:46 PM »
Yes, I ate the Chupa Chupa at Bills, they were delicious. Last year I found a lot of them in the Central Market Panama, the size was not even 50% of the size of the ones at Bills place, but the flavor was also very good. Weird thing I got no germination at all (may be 1%) of the Q. cordata from Panama, when the one from Bill had a gret success rate of germination.
Is Bill's tree still there? 
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2015, 09:00:33 PM »
The seeds don't travel well.  They definetely cannot dry out, even a little bit.  The chupa chupa and the tree grape have very delicate seeds.
This fruit has been commercial for me for years.  Grafted chupa are available in CR.
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2015, 04:52:55 PM »
Yes, I ate the Chupa Chupa at Bills, they were delicious. Last year I found a lot of them in the Central Market Panama, the size was not even 50% of the size of the ones at Bills place, but the flavor was also very good. Weird thing I got no germination at all (may be 1%) of the Q. cordata from Panama, when the one from Bill had a gret success rate of germination.
Is Bill's tree still there?

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2015, 09:13:50 PM »
They have it growing in the Whitman Pavilion at Fairchild Gardens, Not sure if it ever fruited though.  Maybe Noel will know.

I have seen the Fairchild tree full of flowers but not sure if it has fruited. I think it will fruit outdoors in many S. Florida locations but not enough people have tried. Lack of tree availability is a problem
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2015, 10:17:57 AM »
They have a nice tree at f and s, but I don't think it has fruited...Its planted in the ground in a greenhouse...must be hard to grow.
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2015, 05:11:07 PM »
i prefer Matisia cordata to Quararibea. but same thing?

underrated and undervalued fruit for hawaii, rare

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2015, 06:01:15 PM »
same thing....Matisia = Quararibea

check out this Hawaiian video....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7TCCqtxuc
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2015, 08:56:32 PM »
same thing....Matisia = Quararibea

check out this Hawaiian video....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7TCCqtxuc

funny, the blonde hair guy, Darrick who describes the fruit is a friend of mine. he's a big fruit lover, lives in davao city now eats durian year round,, i plan to visit him this January.. i had Matisia a couple times at Frankies, delicious fruit. Saw a couple trees on big island but never had or seen fruits there
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2015, 08:37:58 PM »
Sounds like a good experiment. If you find a source I will buy seeds or a tree if there are extras. I wonder if Paynter has this?
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2016, 04:51:53 PM »
How does one get one of these in FL? Sounds like it might do well in the Keys climate, and I like the look of the huge dark green heart leaves.

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2016, 09:27:50 AM »
How does one get one of these in FL? Sounds like it might do well in the Keys climate, and I like the look of the huge dark green heart leaves.


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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 09:38:58 AM »
Anyone have any luck since the last post in this thread?

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2017, 06:10:05 PM »
In the Keys I'd watch out for two things.  Chupa chupa likes a good, moist, mostly clay soil that doesn't dry out too much.  The other thing is to protect it from the salt wind. 
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2017, 06:57:05 AM »
Quite a rare fruit also here in New Caledonia but pretty good taste, similar to a very tasty melon of Cavaillon I would say. We have two trees, one is fruiting a lot but average size fruits, the other one less fruits but huge ones that weight around the kilogram each.
Both trees are about 20 years old now and they are from seeds brought back from Perou. I will try to graft that specie this year onto last year seedlings. Any tips/info about grafting that specie are welcome.

here is a pic of the trees with some fruits.


Here is small selection of fruits I have picked yesterday in our "special" forest…lol
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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2017, 04:49:47 PM »
Quite a rare fruit also here in New Caledonia but pretty good taste, similar to a very tasty melon of Cavaillon I would say. We have two trees, one is fruiting a lot but average size fruits, the other one less fruits but huge ones that weight around the kilogram each.
Both trees are about 20 years old now and they are from seeds brought back from Perou. I will try to graft that specie this year onto last year seedlings. Any tips/info about grafting that specie are welcome.

here is a pic of the trees with some fruits.


Here is small selection of fruits I have picked yesterday in our "special" forest…lol


What inga species is that?

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Re: Quararibea cordata in Florida?
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2017, 04:28:57 AM »
Whitman says yes and 32 years ago wrote,

Seeds of the South American sapote were introduced into South Florida in 1964. These had been obtained, at the request of the writer, through Lee Moore, from trees in the Amazon Basin at Iquitos, Peru. The resulting Florida-grown seedlings were later distributed among various members of the Rare Fruit Council International as a new introduction for further trial and observation. First fruiting occurred in 1973 on a tree grown in Miami by Bernard C. Bowker. A color photo of South American sapote fruit grown by the writer appears on the front cover of the above organization's 1976 Yearbook.
There are now several additional bearing specimens of the South American sapote in Dade County. One of these, in the yard of the writer, is 23 feet high with a 28-foot spread and a trunk diameter of 12 inches near ground level. Although Williams (3) writes of buttressed trunks, this tree is showing only a slight tendency in this direction. There are no limbs for the first eight feet, then branches appear in groups of five equidistantly spaced around the trunk in the same plane. These radiate out and ascend at varying angles of inclination from nearly horizontal to about 60 degrees. This branching pattern is repeated at four to five foot intervals with bare trunk in between. The tree has a spreading growth pattern with heavy, dense foliage dropping to within a foot or so of the ground. The leaves, up to 22 inches across, tend to thin out in winter. Their petiole is long, measuring about two-thirds the leaf's width.
In South Florida, the Quararibea cordata should be grown in full sun, and under favorable conditions, can increase in height at a rate of two feet or more per year. First fruit set for a young tree can be preceded by three or more unsuccessful annual flowerings. This bloom occurs during mid-winter with the resulting crop ripening the following November. Eight or more of the 4½-inch diameter sapotes can be clustered around a foot or less of branch, although usual fruiting patterns are more dispersed. The writer's tree, previously described, currently is carrying fifty-eight of the 'mango-melon'-flavored fruit.

Unquote.They range up to 5000ft altitude in their native distribution and vary much in quality,taste and size. Search some of the past pics I have posted of giant and low fibre lines.Anyway by selecting upland specimens with more cold tolerance further north in Florida should be ok for them.

 

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