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Wonderful Halos
« on: April 10, 2017, 12:17:43 PM »
Anyone know what actual variety of citrus Wonderful is distributing?

They are labeled as Wonderful Halos Mandarins.  Seedless, sweet and easy peel.

Not sure if the variety is simply "Halos" or something else.

They are, actually, really good.  I was impressed by them, and they have flavor of some of my better varieties but without the seeds.

Wondering if this is a tree we can acquire, or if this is exclusive to the Wonderful company.  :)
« Last Edit: April 10, 2017, 12:21:50 PM by Viking Guy »

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Re: Halos Wonderful
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2017, 12:21:22 PM »
""... this is what you find in Cutie and Halo boxes," she explains. "Those are trademark names for what are usually multiple cultivars: clementines before Christmas — usually fina sodea clementines or clemenules — then after Christmas the W Murcott afourer and tango. But mostly tango.""

from http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-c1-citrus-flavors-20160411-story.html

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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2017, 12:32:08 PM »
So what we are eating now is likely Tango or WMA?

Interesting.  So, it is a seedless Nadorcott basically?

Need to learn more about it now.  :)

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Re: Wonderful Halos
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2017, 06:36:10 PM »
Thanks Brian for the Tango article.  It looks like the looooong legal battle over Tango and Nadorcott might have come to an end.  Still no matter what,  many believe UCR's Tango is just a irradiated Nadorcott.
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 07:08:42 PM »
I have never heard the name Nadorcott but have always known Tango to be an irradiated selection of W. Murcott Afourer. I thought this was common knowledge. The UCR descriptions of these varieties have always stated their connection. I don't really understand why there was a lawsuit over this, Tango is obviously an improved modfiied selection of W. Murcott Afourer or no one would be growing it. Here are the descriptions:

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/wmurcott.html
http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/tango.html

When did Nadorcott come into use as a name for W. Murcott Afourer?
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 09:27:26 PM »
So, anyone know of a nursery in south Florida carrying the Tango tree?

I am convinced I need one for my collection.  :)

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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2017, 10:33:55 PM »
It all began at the University of California Riverside where scientists irradiated budwood from Nadorcott mandarins to create a new seedless variety called Tango, which has since taken the U.S. market by storm. Spanish seed company Eurosemillas aims to mimic that success in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and South America but has faced legal challenges from France’s Nador Cott Protection (NCP). These actions have left growers undeterred however, as demand for plants continues to outstrip supply.

http://www.freshfruitportal.com/news/2015/03/16/nadorcott-case-against-tango-just-a-delay-tactic-says-eurosemillas/
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2017, 07:36:28 AM »
So, anyone know of a nursery in south Florida carrying the Tango tree?

I am convinced I need one for my collection.  :)

Wont find it in South Florida...not sure but I have my doubts you would find it anywhere in Florida.
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2017, 09:37:12 AM »
So, anyone know of a nursery in south Florida carrying the Tango tree?

I am convinced I need one for my collection.  :)

Wont find it in South Florida...not sure but I have my doubts you would find it anywhere in Florida.

So looks like this will require shipping it to an adjacent state.

Guess I'll have some bud wood next year for Florida and.  ;)

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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2017, 08:49:35 PM »
I got a tango last year and should be able to get more. I live close to LaBelle, Florida 33935. If I get one or two would
you drive and get them? I also would consider Kishu for an earlier ripening citrus tree. They get ripe around September or
October and are usually still green when they are ready. The climate in South Florida is very different then the climate is
where the Wonderful Halos are grown. They have cool nights and the citrus grows very different in South Florida. I really
enjoyed the Kishus the past two years. They are very tangy flavored and it is the only truly seedless citrus I have grown so far,
Even the tangos had a few seeds. I grow 3 types of satsumas and they also had seeds and the ponkans are very seedy from the
cross pollination. If you really want a tango pm me and we can make arrangements
Mike
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2017, 10:31:37 PM »
I got a tango last year and should be able to get more. I live close to LaBelle, Florida 33935. If I get one or two would
you drive and get them? I also would consider Kishu for an earlier ripening citrus tree. They get ripe around September or
October and are usually still green when they are ready. The climate in South Florida is very different then the climate is
where the Wonderful Halos are grown. They have cool nights and the citrus grows very different in South Florida. I really
enjoyed the Kishus the past two years. They are very tangy flavored and it is the only truly seedless citrus I have grown so far,
Even the tangos had a few seeds. I grow 3 types of satsumas and they also had seeds and the ponkans are very seedy from the
cross pollination. If you really want a tango pm me and we can make arrangements
Mike

Yes, I'd have no problem driving there to pick them up.  2 hours is nothing compared to some of my travels around the world collecting cultivars.  ;)

I am looking for the following Citrus:

Kishu
Tango
Gold Nugget
Xie Shan
Nules Clementine
Budd Blood
Orlando Tangelo
Tahitian Pummelo
Valentine Pummelo


I currently have the following Citrus:

Temple Tangor
Pace Orange
Ponkan
Dancy Tangerine
Minneola HB Tangelo
Ruby Red Grapefruit
Marsh Grapefruit
Flame Grapefruit
Hirado Buntan Pummelo
Meyer Imp Lemon
Pink Variegated Lemon
Excalibur Red Lime
Owari Satsuma
Dekopon/Shiranui
Red Naval Orange
Moro Blood Orange
Centennial Vari Kumquat

I'm open to 4 more suggestions, maybe I'll go for 30 varieties.  Who knows?  :)
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 11:54:19 PM »
How many do you want? They would be small in citri cups. I will find out if they are still available and get back to you.
There was also Early pride and possibly something else available, I can check what else is available.
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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 08:42:24 AM »
How many do you want? They would be small in citri cups. I will find out if they are still available and get back to you.
There was also Early pride and possibly something else available, I can check what else is available.
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I'm assuming these are new grafts on a young rootstock or other?  I do prefer older candidates, but with Tango being so limited I may have to take what I can get unless I wish to drive a 24 hr round trip.

Then some of these varieties I want I can't find anywhere, or when I do find them they're in terrible condition and not worth the effort.

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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2017, 09:38:56 AM »
They would be small in citri cups

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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2017, 12:48:56 PM »
I was surprised to find in the most recent bag of Halos, fruit with different source tags on them.

Tags included New Mexico, Connecticut, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Kentucky, Idaho.



I have never seen this before.

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Re: Wonderful Halos
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2017, 02:06:27 PM »
rickshaw, it is a game for children which they can play by collecting the stickers . Click on the link below and then scroll down to "How To Play".