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Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« on: May 20, 2017, 11:49:29 PM »
I have an in ground seedling Dang Rasimi tree.  Since jacks fruit on the trunk, I approach grafted 2 different cultivars (so far) onto the trunk. The first picture is from a grafted 'Dang Saria' that I did last year. The second picture is from a seedling 'Mr. Berry' that was grafted this year. Since last year, the 'Dang Saria' looks like it has grown in diameter. I have a few more varieties to graft onto the trunk, then I'll attempt lakoocha, Chama and maybe a few other artocarpus that fruit on their branches.

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 07:48:57 AM »
Has either pushed growth yet?  Never thought of doing this technique.  How long were the scions you grafted?  Thanks for posting.

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 09:57:15 AM »
Jackfruit fruits on branches too, not just the trunk.
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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 03:18:48 PM »
Interesting....

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 11:54:55 PM »
Jay, the scions were 2.5-3' long, I cut the tops off the scions to avoid them growing branches. I'm hoping to have the grafts become part of the trunk but still bloom from their nodes. They are alive and green when you scratch the bark. The Dang Saria graft from last year looks like it has grown in diameter. We'll see how it looks in a few years.

Thanks Rob, most the jacks I've seen fruit on the trunks or on branches near the trunks but not on the ends of the branches like kwai muk or lakoocha.

Stay tuned Sleepdoc, hopefully I'll have exciting updates in the future.




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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2017, 12:21:55 AM »
Jay, the scions were 2.5-3' long, I cut the tops off the scions to avoid them growing branches. I'm hoping to have the grafts become part of the trunk but still bloom from their nodes. They are alive and green when you scratch the bark. The Dang Saria graft from last year looks like it has grown in diameter. We'll see how it looks in a few years.

Thanks Rob, most the jacks I've seen fruit on the trunks or on branches near the trunks but not on the ends of the branches like kwai muk or lakoocha.

Stay tuned Sleepdoc, hopefully I'll have exciting updates in the future.

Not on end of branches but definitely will fruit at midway point  and not necessarily at or right near main trunk.
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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2017, 11:02:18 AM »
Interesting graft Ethan, will be cool to see it flower and fruit! keeps us updated and nice to see you posting again ;) 8)

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 03:41:29 PM »
Thank you Robert, hopefully Im lucky enough one day to post pics of it flowering....maybe even share a fruit some day!

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 03:54:30 PM »
Thank you Robert, hopefully Im lucky enough one day to post pics of it flowering....maybe even share a fruit some day!

Hi Ethan
Good to hear from you. I'm get a lot of male flowers on Borneo red. I'll PM you later

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 10:49:17 PM »
That is exciting news JF, hopefully at least one female will show up at the party.

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2017, 11:31:10 PM »
Wow very interesting. .
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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2017, 01:07:06 AM »
The fastest grafter of the West is at it again. Nice one, Ethan.
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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 02:04:18 PM »
This is a really cool idea I wonder if a big shield it patch bud would work too.
Keep us updated. Cocktail jackfruit might become a thing now

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 02:51:24 PM »
Nice experiment Ethan! 

I did a walk through the yard and found 3 fruit which directly sprouted from the trunk.  The other 80+ fruit sprouted from horizontal branches, 4 to 24 inches away from the trunk.
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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2017, 07:42:23 PM »
Thanks Capt Ram.

Thank you Thera but  I'm a little rusty with my grafting skills. :)   

Good idea skhan, might make it look prettier too?

Thank you for the recon cbss, maybe I'll try leaving a growing branch next time, see if it makes a difference.
 

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2017, 05:15:51 PM »
Hi Etham,
This is interesting idea. Is this a graft made similar like bridge grafting (only bottom and top part of the branch are grafted) or is it like long veneer graft (the whole surface of the branch was grafted)?
Thanks,

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2017, 02:58:59 PM »
Thank you Sobars, they were done as long veneers.

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2017, 03:02:08 PM »
I've also been thinking about stacking varieties on each other, totem pole style. Graft one variety let it grow then cut it back to a foot or two in length and graft another variety.  Repeat.

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2017, 05:11:53 PM »
This will be also interesting but i guess it will be a long process. The first graft will take few months to heal and then you graft the other on top of it and so on.

However, if i am remember correctly, skill cult has a grafting video in which he is talking about such graft for apples - to put a dwarfing inter stock/scion in between the actual root stock and desired scion -  to perform all those (two) grafts at the same time. I think that could be successful in apple, but not sure if it will work with the jack fruit.

Anyway, but the whole creation over the years will look really interesting, especially if you even add cempedak scions in between.....



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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2017, 05:24:29 PM »
To speed up that totem style graft, what if we do like below....

Just an example

You have 3 different cultivars already growing.
January: you got 3 new cultivars scion and graft on top of above 3 plants
February: wait until above grafts heal
March: you take another 3 new cultivars scion and graft on top of above 3 grafts (so now each plant has total 3 varieties)
April: wait until above grafts heal
May: you cut one of those 3 varieties totem scion and graft on top of your main tree
June:
July: you take the 2nd 3 variety totem and and graft on top of the graft made in May
August
September: you take the 3rd 3 variety totem and graft on top of the graft made in July

So now, you have 1 jackfruit totem tree with 10 varieties within 1 year time.....


 

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Re: Multiple cultivar grafted jack fruit tree
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2017, 06:53:48 PM »
Thank you Sobar, those are some great ideas! For me artocarpus is still difficult to graft so I'm not sure how a double graft at one time, like the apple, would do for me? Worth a try though! The idea to pregraft sicons before eventually grafting together on final tree is interesting too. If it could be done, that would save so much time.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, we have more experiments to test now.

 

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